Comicsgate Hangers-On and Drama Whores - A thread about some guy who's mad about Star Wars and the neckbeards obsessively stalking him

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UndeliveredCrowdfundMaste dijo:
I haven't lied about anything. I came here to show that Ethan lied when it came to $50,000 of Comicsgate's money, including my own money. Ethan owes me something, and I want what I paid for.

Ethan showed up here to confirm it, and I provided video proof from Ethan's own livestream. Ethan already offered me money, in this thread, and I refused it. So when you say I'm trying to get money from Ethan, you're proving that you're too stupid to follow the conversation. You're just talking out of your ass and you haven't even read the thread.

I want Ethan to mail me what I paid him for. He admits that he has it, and that he could have mailed it 6 months ago. He admits that he promised - again - to mail it 3 weeks ago. But now he's saying he changed his mind and won't send it until a later undetermined time.

Can you show anything you've EVER posted here, that had as much reason for posting it as what I just said? Have you ever posted here about something as important as $1,000 of your own money?
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Ahem.

This post is where Ethan explains why art has not been sent out yet.

This post is where Ethan explained how original art would be distributed.

This post is where you respond to his explanation.

This post contains a link to the video where you claim he 'promised' to ship original art pages immediately.

Help us all out here. When did Ethan make you an offer of money? What did he say in that video that made you think he was promising to send original art immediately?

And please stop saying mean things to @LateNightComics. Say whatever you want to me, but he definitely doesn't deserve such rude treatment. It's a bad look for you.
 
lolz dijo:
You aren't guaranteed a return on your investment. You aren't guaranteed anything from a crowdfund. If you really have that much money to throw around you should have invested in property/real estate/land; things that always increase in value except in Detroit. Dumbass.
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The dumbest thing is he refused a refund just so he can do this gay ops bullshit apparently. So his tardouts are completely pointless and self inflicting and thus can be laughed at.
 
instythot dijo:
Isn't that exactly why independent comics have already existed and have somehow been sold in stores as far back as R. Crumb?

I fail to see why CG is even a thing. You don't like the books, go make your own gay savage dragon or whatever. There are clearly ways to get these things printed and in stores on your own
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Well they had the name thrust upon them so that they would be compared to GG and assblasted pros could "justify" ignoring them and calling them harassers instead of annoyed fans who just wanted a non-shitty X-Men book to read. Then they challenged Ya Boi to make a comic and now he's crowdfunded over half a million for comics and a bunch of other guys are doing their own thing now


LateNightComics dijo:
You are in no position to demand a creator, or anyone listen to anything you have to say. You had your chance for a refund and refused.

Sleazy E gave you a chance. Listened to your insane complaint and offered you a refund.

Next time learn to say yes. You created your own problem, Ethan GENEROUSLY offered you something and instead you got assmad.

Fuck off with this exceptional shit no one cares.
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@UndeliveredCrowdfundMaste You have really fucked up somewhere if you have LNC defending EVS. Don't treat comics like they're stock options
 
Adamska dijo:
The dumbest thing is he refused a refund just so he can do this gay ops bullshit apparently. So his tardouts are completely pointless and self inflicting and thus can be laughed at.
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Hey fuckface, you JUST accused me of trying to get money from Ethan. Now you're saying "the dumbest thing" is NOT getting money from Ethan.

You're all a bunch of screeching monkeys, using your own shit as lube.
 
UndeliveredCrowdfundMaste dijo:
Hey fuckface, you JUST accused me of trying to get money from Ethan. Now you're saying "the dumbest thing" is NOT getting money from Ethan.

You're all a bunch of screeching monkeys, using your own shit as lube.
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Sir, again - I ask you not to use that kind of language with others at the Farms.

If your feelings are getting you so upset inside that you feel like you must talk that way, it's okay. Those feelings are normal. But be my little buddy and just say those things to me. We can keep it our little secret and that way people won't laugh so hard at you. Nobody wants you feeling all bad inside.

These are gentle souls who's words carry the high virtues you talked about earlier. Honesty, loyalty, trust - these men live up to those ideals every day, with every post, with every dox.

You don't really think you need to be so mean to them, do you? Huh, buddy? You just kind of lost your patience, and that wasn't really you - right? You can be a little patient with the people around you while they sort out what you are saying, right?

Be my big man. There you go.
 
KingofNothing dijo:
Well they had the name thrust upon them so that they would be compared to GG and assblasted pros could "justify" ignoring them and calling them harassers instead of annoyed fans who just wanted a non-shitty X-Men book to read. Then they challenged Ya Boi to make a comic and now he's crowdfunded over half a million for comics and a bunch of other guys are doing their own thing now
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I think the point I'm making is being missed.

There is almost 50 years of successful examples of people who don't like existing mainstream comics saying "fuck it, I'm gonna make my own book and fucking sell it in stores." There is even a whole independent comics distribution network by that has been built by these 50 years of obstinate entrepreneurs

Why was a public tantrum even necessary when it's been proven over and over again that you can find an audience by having a good enough idea and saying "fine, I'll do it on my own if you won't pick up my book"? The only reason for the CG people to have their outburst is because they like the delicious attention like a bunch of e-girls
 
verissimus dijo:
I'll probably have deja vu for saying this later, but are these guys still going at it? Jesus.
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If they keep it up, maybe they'll halal themselves and then finally something interesting will have come out of this instead of just pages and pages of constant pathetic slap fighting over fucking nothing.
 
instythot dijo:
I think the point I'm making is being missed.

There is almost 50 years of successful examples of people who don't like existing mainstream comics saying "fuck it, I'm gonna make my own book and fucking sell it in stores." There is even a whole independent comics distribution network by that has been built by these 50 years of obstinate entrepreneurs

Why was a public tantrum even necessary when it's been proven over and over again that you can find an audience by having a good enough idea and saying "fine, I'll do it on my own if you won't pick up my book"? The only reason for the CG people to have their outburst is because they like the delicious attention like a bunch of e-girls
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Well it only got as big as it did because people in the industry decided to have bizarre public tantrums because a guy recording videos on his phone said "I don't think these comics are very good" instead of just ignoring it. Fans have been criticizing comics for decades too, so I don't see why you think "make your own" is a valid excuse to suddenly not do this. If you're trying to find where a guy and his kids live and get him fired because he don't like your comics, I don't think he's the main problem in that equation.
 
KiwiLedian dijo:
If they keep it up, maybe they'll halal themselves and then finally something interesting will have come out of this instead of just pages and pages of constant pathetic slap fighting over fucking nothing.
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You're welcome to offer any example of your own posts being more important than the $840,000 of Comicsgate's money that my posts are about.

I'm here because Ethan personally owes me more than $3,000 worth of Comicsgate stuff, that he said he'd send me, that he didn't, that he lied about, that I provided video evidence for in the thread, which Ethan himself showed up in the thread to confirm. But Comicsgate is now "off topic" in the Comicsgate thread.

If you can't show any of your own posts that are more important than "nothing", maybe you could tell me what "important posts" are supposed to be like. When I showed up to the Comicsgate thread to show new evidence about the biggest thing in Comicsgate, and people marked my posts "informative", but several other people said I was lying, what should I have done other than correcting the facts?

Adamska also said I was talking about nothing, which turned out to be more important than anything he's ever said. You too?

Adamska says I "keep quoting him", when actually I only responded to him after he was talking about me. He also says he's "ignoring me", but I have 12 notifications from Adamska. Why are so many liars, who have nothing better to say themselves, the ones who have a problem with me? Seems like I'm catching flak because I'm right over the target.

Here are some screencaps of what a liar calls "ignoring" someone, proving that his words mean nothing and shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone:
 

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UndeliveredCrowdfundMaste dijo:
You're welcome to offer any example of your own posts being more important than the $840,000 of Comicsgate's money that my posts are about.

I'm here because Ethan personally owes me more than $3,000 worth of Comicsgate stuff, that he said he'd send me, that he didn't, that he lied about, that I provided video evidence for in the thread, which Ethan himself showed up in the thread to confirm. But Comicsgate is now "off topic" in the Comicsgate thread.

If you can't show any of your own posts that are more important than "nothing", maybe you could tell me what "important posts" are supposed to be like. When I showed up to the Comicsgate thread to show new evidence about the biggest thing in Comicsgate, and people marked my posts "informative", but several other people said I was lying, what should I have done other than correcting the facts?

Adamska also said I was talking about nothing, which turned out to be more important than anything he's ever said. You too?

Adamska says I "keep quoting him", when actually I only responded to him after he was talking about me. He also says he's "ignoring me", but I have 12 notifications from Adamska. Why are so many liars, who have nothing better to say themselves, the ones who have a problem with me? Seems like I'm catching flak because I'm right over the target.

Here are some screencaps of what a liar calls "ignoring" someone, proving that his words mean nothing and shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone:
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EVS offered you a refund, you're demanding interest too. You are not entitled to interest just because the book took longer than you liked. Either take the refund or wait like everyone else
 
KingofNothing dijo:
EVS offered you a refund, you're demanding interest too. You are not entitled to interest just because the book took longer than you liked. Either take the refund or wait like everyone else
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No, liar, I didn't demand interest. I said I wanted what I paid for, and that's all. I wanted Ethan to do what I paid him for, and to do what he said, which he refuses to do. I explained that Ethan was trying to rip me off by giving me a refund, because of the existence of interest. I asked why Ethan should get an interest-free loan from me for 15 months, and nobody has been able to answer that. I also pointed out that Ethan didn't keep his word the last time he said he'd send us what we paid for, so that I have no reason to believe he'd abide by the terms of any refund he offered.
 
UndeliveredCrowdfundMaste dijo:
No, liar, I didn't demand interest. I said I wanted what I paid for, and that's all. I wanted Ethan to do what I paid him for, and to do what he said, which he refuses to do. I explained that Ethan was trying to rip me off by giving me a refund, because of the existence of interest. I asked why Ethan should get an interest-free loan from me for 15 months, and nobody has been able to answer that. I also pointed out that Ethan didn't keep his word the last time he said he'd send us what we paid for, so that I have no reason to believe he'd abide by the terms of any refund he offered.
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"It's not about interest but I'm gonna bitch about it anyway" The book fucking exists, I don't give a shit if EVS is collecting interest on my dollar. Am I getting frog book? Yes? Then who fucking cares? Get the damn refund or stop autisticly screeching into the void about an item he's already shown off several times
 
KingofNothing dijo:
"It's not about interest but I'm gonna bitch about it anyway" The book fucking exists, I don't give a shit if EVS is collecting interest on my dollar. Am I getting frog book? Yes? Then who fucking cares? Get the damn refund or stop autisticly screeching into the void about an item he's already shown off several times
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Right, you don't care that Ethan lied and still refuses to send $50,000 worth of art pages that he admits he could have sent 6 months ago, that he originally promised to send last year, that he was finished drawing the first of them 15 months ago, that I paid him for 15 months ago, that he again promised to go ahead and ship 3 weeks ago and just didn't do it. Again. Well I do care about thousands of dollars of my own money, and you're sperging about me being normal like that. Not everyone's a cuck, get over it. Don't get so upset about someone's words on the internet that don't affect you.

And please link us to some evidence that this book exists with a chromium cover attached. Since he's "shown it several times", I'm sure you can find plenty of examples.

As for the art pages, he's admitted that he hasn't even decided which pages he's going to send to the backers who paid him $1,000 each, 15 months ago. He's going to let them pick, in order, after they get the books. So he's going to wait until the chromium gets printed and shipped (from China, as he mentioned last year?), then he has to wait until the book gets printed, then they'll attach the chromium, then they'll ship to him, then he has to spend a few weeks signing 10,000 copies and drawing sketches in the inside of several hundred copies, then he has to get the books shipped.

And then, after everyone's books are delivered, then he has to finally contact the first art buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the second buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the third buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the fourth buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the fifth buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the sixth buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the seventh buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the eighth buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the ninth buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the tenth buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the eleventh buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response, then contact the twelfth buyer, ask him which page he wants, wait for a response -

Are you still reading? We're not even 25% through the list. Is that too much to read through? You don't have time to READ Ethan's to-do list, but you have time to actually wait another 4 months in real life for it?

I'm predicting that Ethan won't even do all that, like he now says he's planning to do, because it would take a lot of time and effort on his part. He doesn't have much time for comic books that we've paid him for, since he didn't even draw 2 pages per week over the last year. Time is for us plebs to wait on, not for him to spend on what he owes us. Oh, maybe he'll have the fulfilment center do it for him? I wonder if he's even talked to a fulfillment center about that. No big deal right, just another few months to wait.

Last month people were taking bets on whether Ethan would come out with a 5th crowdfund without delivering the first 3 that Comicsgate paid him $840,000 for. They were right, he did it. 5 crowdfunds since last year, $900,000, and he's only delivered the $67,000 of it that he didn't write, draw, or publish. And he thinks that's a good time to start even more projects. That's cool.

But since I don't have what I paid for, I have to do something with my time while I'm waiting. I decided that telling the truth would be a good use of my time. I'm sorry that you hate people telling the truth, but blame Ethan. I wouldn't be here saying these true things that upset you so much, if Ethan had done anything he said he'd do. Or even if he wasn't working on other projects before finishing the one he owes me and 10,000 other Comicsgaters.

Sorry for talking about 10,000 Comicsgaters and the #1 Comicsgate project, I know it's off-topic in a Comicsgate discussion.

You think just because a guy reads comics he can't start some shit?
 
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