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I don't believe for a second he was turned down for facials, arm waxes, leg waxes or any other bullshit he is claiming other than ball waxes. He just added those when his narrative was tested by people rightfully pointing out that some aren't trained to wax balls, and that forcing a woman who doesn't want to to touch your junk is pretty much sexual assault. The only "proof" he offered for being turned down for these other services are text chains that don't even mention the service he is requesting.
 
I don't believe for a second he was turned down for facials, arm waxes, leg waxes or any other bullshit he is claiming other than ball waxes. He just added those when his narrative was tested by people rightfully pointing out that some aren't trained to wax balls, and that forcing a woman who doesn't want to to touch your junk is pretty much sexual assault. The only "proof" he offered for being turned down for these other services are text chains that don't even mention the service he is requesting.

I agree. But even if he was turned down for services that had nothing to do with handling his girldick, it seems completely possible to me that anyone serving customers alone in their home is going to google the names of new customers to see what they can find out about them. Unless these cases were years ago (I think most were just a few months ago?) all it takes is a quit search of his name to realize he is a dangerous perv that women should not be alone with.
 
I agree. But even if he was turned down for services that had nothing to do with handling his girldick, it seems completely possible to me that anyone serving customers alone in their home is going to google the names of new customers to see what they can find out about them. Unless these cases were years ago (I think most were just a few months ago?) all it takes is a quit search of his name to realize he is a dangerous perv that women should not be alone with.
It came out in a few tribunal cases that he has two Facebook profiles, one with a normal looking woman that he uses to book the service then he switches to his actual one. I mean, it makes sense these women are going to deny him if you're being a creep like that.
 
It came out in a few tribunal cases that he has two Facebook profiles, one with a normal looking woman that he uses to book the service then he switches to his actual one. I mean, it makes sense these women are going to deny him if you're being a creep like that.
Exactly. The Brazilian woman is even on record as asking him just wtf game he was playing. I really do think Devyn has had enough though. I can't wait to read the decision. Did you guys catch that she asked him outright if he was entrapping them? He said no and you might think any reasonable person would deny it, but there was a good chance he would've started on about all the reasons it was totes cool to entrap them. He's that fucking dumb. So while it seems a stupid question, it's actually not in this case because Yaniv is literally that fucking stupid.
 
I don't believe for a second he was turned down for facials, arm waxes, leg waxes or any other bullshit he is claiming other than ball waxes.

It is possible that the pedophile formerly known as Jonathan Yaniv was turned down for waxes of non-sexual organs. I work with some Muslim women, and they will not even shake hands with any of the men in the building.
 
It is possible that the pedophile formerly known as Jonathan Yaniv was turned down for waxes of non-sexual organs. I work with some Muslim women, and they will not even shake hands with any of the men in the building.
Not all the women who turned him down were muslim.
 
One thing DC seems to miss in all this is how "Facebook Marketplace" works. I "deny people service" (I guess) if they transgress by...changing the appointment time more than once. Or sound at all shifty. If they send me too many follow up prompts. If they attempt to negotiate the price before they see the item for sale.

The platform has a bunch of safety guidelines that support this "trust no one" approach to commerce.

DC absolutely can not leave the door open for discrimination claims without looking at the marketplace cultural norms. Although watching Facebook sue her would be amusing, since they would inevitably see their lucrative platform affected.
 
At least one was Sikh. Does anyone know if any of the Indian Subcontinent religions other than Islam have a "brown woman no touch strange man" clause in them?
I know even white women would use the “oh my husband would never approve” line to get out of waxing a freakjob man, and they might tack on “muh religion” to sound less confrontational.
 
Financial Post of Canada weighs in, article written by Jordan Peterson's lawyer: https://web.archive.org/web/2019080...utofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook

Jessica Yaniv case shows that human rights tribunals can undermine those they should serve
Howard Levitt: Human rights law in Canada today is a mockery of what was intended when the legislation was passed

You are a low-income, married Muslim woman who works from your Vancouver home performing waxing services exclusively on women.

One day, a transgendered woman asks you to wax her untransitioned genital area. The request is contrary to your religious beliefs and your sense of modesty – your husband is adamantly against it.

When you refuse, Jessica Yaniv, the customer, files a human rights complaint against you. In fact, Ms Yaniv has filed 29 human rights complaints against individuals and salons who refused her the service. At least one of those salon owners, who also started the business out of her home, shut it down as a result of the stress and expense of the litigation.

One would think that an individual could safely refuse to administer such a service, based on religious beliefs, feminist principles or personal comfort and safety. One might also think that the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal has more pressing applications to hear than the 16 applications Ms Yaniv filed this year, and the 13 she filed last year.

Within the B.C. Human Rights Code is a provision that allows the tribunal, at its own discretion and with or without a hearing, to dismiss any application that “was filed for improper motives or made in bad faith.”

But the tribunal refused to categorize Ms Yaniv’s application as improper or frivolous, nor her as a “vexatious litigant,” in a decision released on May 30. The author of the decision said that the complaints addressed real problems and genuine grievances.

This is human rights law in Canada today — a mockery of what was intended when the legislation was passed.

Instead, the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal insisted on hearing Ms Yaniv’s multitude of complaints, at the expense of the public. This is someone who, in her quest to champion the rights of a minority, has repeatedly and viciously disparaged immigrants and visible minorities in her community on Twitter.

Our human rights system has transmogrified into one where an individual who was born male and who possesses biologically male genitalia, can make an apparently valid claim against a female aesthetician for refusing to handle that genitalia.

And the usual defenders of the women who refused to provide Ms Yaniv service have remained silent, cowed at the altar of transgender rights.

Jordan Peterson, who I represent, famously claimed that the impact of the federal human rights legislation on transgenderism would be to force people to use made-up words. Even he could not predict that it might contribute to women being forced to handle male genitalia against their will. It would seem that transgender rights are now trumping those of women, religion, ethnic rights and family values.

In Ontario, human rights can be enforced by the courts. My view is that these tribunals should be abolished and Canadians should turn to the courts for relief if they believe their rights have been trampled. Our activist commissions, through cases such as this, are ultimately weakening the protections minority groups require.

Howard Levitt is senior partner of Levitt LLP, employment and labour lawyers. He practises employment law in eight provinces.The most recent of his six books is War Stories from the Workplace: Columns by Howard Levitt.

hlevitt@levittllp.com

Twitter.com/HowardLevittLaw
 
IANAL and I am not a Canadian. Would have loved for the author-lawyer Levitt to have weighed in on the laws which are in place to protect the waxer women vs. the laws in place to protect Yaniv's claim to womanhood. Bill C-16 which amended the Canadian Human Rights Act to include gender identity would protect Yaniv, right? What laws would protect the women?

One website I found says this about Canadain religious freedom: "You have the right to observe your religion unless it interferes with others' rights or is a safety or health concern."
The part about "interferes with others' rights" sounds like Yaniv's C-16 rights could trump religious rights.

Then there are the women who rejected him on grounds of not feeling safe to be alone with him, or just not wanting to touch a random penis. Are there any laws to protect them?

I also have questions about Cousineau. It would be surprising if she has any power to make a ruling on what she thinks is right or wrong. Wouldn't she have to make a ruling based on what the laws say?
 
IANAL and I am not a Canadian. Would have loved for the author-lawyer Levitt to have weighed in on the laws which are in place to protect the waxer women vs. the laws in place to protect Yaniv's claim to womanhood. Bill C-16 which amended the Canadian Human Rights Act to include gender identity would protect Yaniv, right? What laws would protect the women?

One website I found says this about Canadain religious freedom: "You have the right to observe your religion unless it interferes with others' rights or is a safety or health concern."
The part about "interferes with others' rights" sounds like Yaniv's C-16 rights could trump religious rights.

Then there are the women who rejected him on grounds of not feeling safe to be alone with him, or just not wanting to touch a random penis. Are there any laws to protect them?

I also have questions about Cousineau. It would be surprising if she has any power to make a ruling on what she thinks is right or wrong. Wouldn't she have to make a ruling based on what the laws say?

You would expect. The tribunals are more a kangaroo court than most Canadians know.
So, Cousineau has wide latitude for decisions under the law, and seems to want to use these cases to make a name for herself as a human rights changemaker.

The tribunal decisions are not part of case law in Canada. They can be referenced by courts, but do not make law the way decisions in any of the real courts do. The tribunals are "quasi judicial". Quebec has a different system, and ON has some weird jurisdictional situation with their tribunal that ties it to the courts. BC doesn't. DCs decisions are not even really scrutinized unless someone calls for a judicial review, and I believe the courts turn those down. DC us a member of the bar, so her professional association should keep her accountable, but again, complaint - based. I think the lawyer might be holding out, and may take the whole thing to civil court for damages. Not just Yaniv, but the Crown and tribunal.

BC relatively recently reinstated their tribunal, so it has the same insecurity and desperation to prove its value as any corporate HR department
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At least one was Sikh. Does anyone know if any of the Indian Subcontinent religions other than Islam have a "brown woman no touch strange man" clause in them?
I think
Maybe

All of them

It's okay with them if the women huddle in groups and wax each others eyebrows and mustaches or do other things to make the men more attracted and interested in baby making. Some of the upper castes will even pay lower castes to do services.

Throw a cock-n-balls in a dress into the mix and all hell will break loose.
 
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