Sperg about race realism here - So we can stop shitting up the community watch thread

[Thought precriminal]

So I was gonna add a line about how white people are scientifically proven to stink (and also produce wet, alarmingly orangey-brown earwax). Now I don't even know which thread to throw this bait to anymore.

Caucasoids stink more than Mongoloids, but less than Congoids. This is not really controversial, I think. Interestingly, Asians/Mongoloids have significantly fewer sweat glands under their armpits; as a result deodorants aren't really a thing in much of East Asia. In China people didn't/don't wear any. They don't bathe much, either, and can get away with this because they smell less.

Then again there are significant drawbacks to being Asian (like having no soul), so I don't feel envious really.

 

[Popoto]

... Except there's that part where it says Sub-Saharan Africans stink more? The problem with race realism is that while the concept of racial superiority has been around for awhile and based on what population has control on the cultural and societal trend shifts, racial supremacy and 'nationalism' hasn't. One dates back to the 19th century, to Zionist and Aryanist scholars, the other from the post-WW2 years. White nationalism is hilariously defective in that no one two persons can agree what's actually going to be the makeup of a 'white nation'.

Let me just spoil this for you: there are epigenetic, genetic and cultural differences between, say, the Basque and the Léonese. What makes people in the Americas think people who don't even speak the same language will see each other as the same WITHOUT a complete and utterly damaging breakdown of their cultural/in-group identities?

Oh please, my sides are already in orbit from someone upthread insisting races are sub-species. I just wanted to weave it into a shitpost to rile the idiots up more on how much they have in common with people they consider subhuman.

The idea that any individual "race" will "win" and get to therefore "dictate" the perceived traits is laughable. Even more so when it is proposed by prime examples of those who would be culled upon any purity delineation following said race war.

 

[ElAbominacion]

Oh please, my sides are already in orbit from someone upthread insisting races are sub-species. I just wanted to weave it into a shitpost to rile the idiots up more on how much they have in common with people they consider subhuman.

The idea that any individual "race" will "win" and get to therefore "dictate" the perceived traits is laughable. Even more so when it is proposed by prime examples of those who would be culled upon any purity delineation following said race war.

You may have noticed I said culture. Race is transient. An Andalusian is not a Visigoth, but it descends from them.

 

[Trappy]

Trying to enjoy a good pointless endless ideological debate but liberal smugposters can't stop posting their weird cringe fantasies about how everyone they disagree with is an inbred obese skinhead wignat loser with a swastika chest tattoo.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

Excuse me?

Back during the mid-20th century by the count of the army tests at that time, African American draftees had about an 80% rate of literacy appropriate for being sent to war during WW2. The scores themselves varied quite a bit and the overall population had a score of 94% which must be taken in context of the Jim crow era. It was during Korea when the rate went down to the 60s and the general populace went down to the 80s that you see the shift begin and it's notuntil Vietnan that you see scores around the 40 percentile range throughout the black community. This set of figures, alongside the marriage rate and originally prosperous neighborhoods you could find among the blacks suggests there was a distinct possibility of a vibrant community truly emerging but it was ultimately abortive.3

Did the white man destroy all of their architecture, art, and written language?

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The West African nations didn't have the Catholics and mud was easy to work with and downright practical where they were. No need for massive stonework and also no want.

 

[ElAbominacion]

Back during the mid-20th century by the count of the army tests at that time, African American draftees had about an 80% rate of literacy appropriate for being sent to war during WW2. The scores themselves varied quite a bit and the overall population had a score of 94% which must be taken in context of the Jim crow era. It was during Korea when the rate went down to the 60s and the general populace went down to the 80s that you see the shift begin and it's notuntil Vietnan that you see scores around the 40 percentile range throughout the black community. This set of figures, alongside the marriage rate and originally prosperous neighborhoods you could find among the blacks suggests there was a distinct possibility of a vibrant community truly emerging but it was ultimately abortive.3
The West African nations didn't have the Catholics and mud was easy to work with and downright practical where they were. No need for massive stonework and also no want.

They did have fairly organized religions with common roots. The height of the Yoruba civilization had palaces, some degree of stonework and metal weapons. It's only when they started to trade in their people for booze and guns in endless civil war that everything went to shit until colonists arrived.

 

[DidYouJustSayThat]

It's pretty exceptional, that white people in white countries, who actively fight against white interests over obsolete farm equipment are not summarily executed as traitors. The mind boggles.

 

[UQ 770]

It's pretty exceptional, that white people in white countries, who actively fight against white interests over obsolete farm equipment are not summarily executed as traitors. The mind boggles.

Shut up nigger.

 

[Popoto]

You may have noticed I said culture. Race is transient. An Andalusian is not a Visigoth, but it descends from them.

Yes, in the same way the Cornish are not the Picts, and this stopped mattering even less when they became part of the kingdom of England, and became de facto English. Visigoth is no longer an applicable term for any grouping any more than a Pict is.

Trying to enjoy a good pointless endless ideological debate but liberal smugposters can't stop posting their weird cringe fantasies about how everyone they disagree with is an inbred obese skinhead wignat loser with a swastika chest tattoo.

At least inbreds are bred. 100% of anyone claiming to be "white" has zero idea of their actual genetic makeup. Do you think a Slav, Scandinavian or a Catalan prides themselves on merely being white, next to all these other white races?

It's pretty exceptional, that white people in white countries, who actively fight against white interests over obsolete farm equipment are not summarily executed as traitors. The mind boggles.

Daily reminder that the Confederacy were traitors, lost the war, and the mind boggles as to why you haven't summarily executed yourself on your own fucking edge yet

 

[Flynt's Missing Pecker]

Back during the mid-20th century by the count of the army tests at that time, African American draftees had about an 80% rate of literacy appropriate for being sent to war during WW2. The scores themselves varied quite a bit and the overall population had a score of 94% which must be taken in context of the Jim crow era.

You realise that the testing has evolved over the years, from a basic literacy test to more heavily g-loaded psychometric testing.

Wouldn’t a simpler explanation be that as the test became more cognitive ability focused average scores for African-American applicants also decreased.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

You realise that the testing has evolved over the years, from a basic literacy test to more heavily g-loaded psychometric testing.

Wouldn’t a simpler explanation be that as the test became more cognitive ability focused average scores for African-American applicants also decreased.

It was the same test. They didn't switch to the ASVAB until after or during Vietnam.

 

[Flynt's Missing Pecker]

It was the same test. They didn't switch to the ASVAB until after or during Vietnam.

Did blacks score significantly worse once they went to the ASVAB?

 

[ZeCommissar]

The problem with that discussion is that we live in an age of "equal-creationism".

A prevailing dogma that "all men are created equally", when that's evidently not the case. And just like the dogmatic belief system of a young-earth creationist, the dogma of equal-creationism persists not just in absence of supporting evidence, but in spite of evidence to the contrary.

Notably, this bizarre dogma seems to be pushed primarily in western/white countries. I doubt you'll find many chinese or japanese people that believe random people from some african shithole country to be their equal, or somehow entitled to citizenship in Asia, much less to the fruits of an asian man's labor.



There are sub-saharan african countries that score two standard deviations below normal (=100) on average. That's what we used to call "functionally re-tarded".
And that's the funny thing about averages....half of them are even dumber than that, by definition.

Beware the man that claims to innately be superior to others. He will eventually believe it is his innate right to take away your freedoms and livelihood.

Ah yes the good ol smug "I love being smarter than those dumb niggers in Africa! Obviously the low IQ scores come from niggerbrains and not low education infrastructure!"

That is literally what every racial "realist" sounds like when they start throwing around IQ scores about sub-Sahara Africa. A place where the vast majority of the countries haven't had independence for over 100 years.

Racial realists show a ignorance of culture and history. There are reasons why some places on Earth are far less developed than others, and it's not the reasons they suggest. They then go to the problem that is uncontrolled immigration and claim they are "just trying to protect our home" as a cop out.

 

[Flynt's Missing Pecker]

Beware the man that claims to innately be superior to others. He will eventually believe it is his innate right to take away your freedoms and livelihood.

Ah yes the good ol smug "I love being smarter than those dumb niggers in Africa! Obviously the low IQ scores come from niggerbrains and not low education infrastructure!"

We need a counter for how many libtards have to come in and straw man the race realist position.

You clearly have no understanding of how psychometric testing works, how levels of education, socioeconomic status, parental education etc can be controlled for when analysing the data and how even when that’s controlled for the white-black gap remains.

Or even simpler, let’s break SAT scores down by both race and household income.


Do you ever get tired of tying yourself in knots rather than accept Occam’s Razor. It must be exhausting.

 

[Trappy]

Beware the man that claims to innately be superior to others. He will eventually believe it is his innate right to take away your freedoms and livelihood.

Nobody is talking about innate superiority, you're the one drawing that conclusion from blacks not performing well by Western standards. You're the ones forcing those Western standards on them.

At least inbreds are bred. 100% of anyone claiming to be "white" has zero idea of their actual genetic makeup. Do you think a Slav, Scandinavian or a Catalan prides themselves on merely being white, next to all these other white races?

???
I'm white and know my genetic makeup and I'm pretty sure anyone who is into racial differences, heritage, etc would be more knowledgable about their own heritage than the average random on the street.

These brainlet "heh, racist nazi wypipo are probably ___" takes are embarrassing.

 

[ZeCommissar]

We need a counter for how many libtards have to come in and straw man the race realist position.

You clearly have no understanding of how psychometric testing works, how levels of education, socioeconomic status, parental education etc can be controlled for when analysing the data and how even when that’s controlled for the white-black gap remains.

Or even simpler, let’s break SAT scores down by both race and household income.
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Do you ever get tired of tying yourself in knots rather than accept Occam’s Razor. It must be exhausting.

Straw manning a position? You must have just got the internet if you have never seen a race "realist" advocate for the abolition of certain freedoms of other races just because of "low IQ", or people gloating about being born a certain way, It's not a straw man if it's true.

As for the SAT scores lets assume for a second that race realists are right. Looking at this data I want you to answer something, Who is a more valuable human being, a man with innate talent that doesn't use it, or a man that rises against the odds of his crappy birth?

Nevermind the fact that with better education, socioeconmic status, etc the gap significantly closes between whites and blacks.

Truly the Occam's Razor solution would be to just claim that people are more equal than claimed, instead of showing multiple statistics as to why that isn't the case.

Nobody is talking about innate superiority, you're the one drawing that conclusion from blacks not performing well by Western standards. You're the ones forcing those Western standards on them.

No i'm not. Look at the person I quoted again. The only one forcing Western standards on others are those drawing conclusions that the majority of Africans are "mentally retarded" by performing low.

 

[Flynt's Missing Pecker]

As for the SAT scores lets assume for a second that race realists are right.

It’s not even a debate. The science was settled a long time ago. The fact some of you are trying to argue against it is embarrassing.

The real question is, how do we best use that knowledge ? Because pretending we’re all equal ain’t working out too well.

 

[ZeCommissar]

It’s not even a debate. The science was settled a long time ago. The fact some of you are trying to argue against it is embarrassing.

The real question is, how do we best use that knowledge ? Because pretending we’re all equal ain’t working out too well.

Nice

Question avoidance and stating that the science was settled. If you know anything about science you would definitely know that there is no such thing as "settled science" especially in more complex subjects such as humanity.

How is "pretending" everyone is equal "not working out too well"? It seems to me the most powerful period of human history was heralded by liberal enlightenment principles, and the destruction of the more aggressive nationalist societies. Not to mention the most powerful human societies to ever exist were heterogeneous and not homogeneous. (United States, Roman Empire, Mongols, etc)

As for the current problems with immigration all we need is tighter control and more rational polices besides "open borders" or "shut it down". Why? Because the immigrants suffer from a culture, and religion problem. Not a race problem.

I am very adamant in the belief that if Africans and Native Americans had the same access to resources, agricultural livestock, and competition that Europeans and East Asians had then they would also be on par with those groups.

 

[Trappy]

I am very adamant in the belief that if Africans and Native Americans had the same access to resources, agricultural livestock, and competition that Europeans and East Asians had then they would also be on par with those groups.

Did you not see the chart posted above?

Blacks require 10x the resources to do as well on SATs as whites in poverty. It's not a resources issue.

 

[ZeCommissar]

Did you not see the chart posted above?

Blacks require 10x the resources to do as well on SATs as whites in poverty. It's not a resources issue.

Because a test like the SAT truly shows how smart someone is. Nevermind the fact that apparently there are plenty of poor whites that are somehow smarter than the smartest blacks yet aren't above them in socioeconomic status because of.....uhhh....reasons.....something something affirmative action. Yeah that makes sense.

Please tell me what is the issue then?