Race Realists and Racialists

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Wow, I have a lot to say about this.
  • First of all, that woman is fucking gorgeous. Her cheekbones could cut glass. Fuck those 200,000 years, she's worth it.
  • Does... does he not know that black people are the same species as white people?
  • A couple breeding outside of their more narrow racial group, therefore allowing for a greater variation in genes among their offspring than a couple with more similar characteristics is... setting back evolution? I’m starting to think this racist doesn’t have a firm grasp of biological principles.
  • So the man who has already succeeded in passing on his genetics has failed at evolution. Makes sense.
  • White skin is actually very recent. It only started showing up in the last 8,000 years or so. So 200,000 years doesn't even make sense. And skin color differences are explained by the presence of UV rays. In places closer to the equator, the sunlight is harsher; melanin acts as a natural sunscreen that protects people from the more harmful effects of UV radiation. Meanwhile, in places farther away from the equator (such as Europe), the amount of UV rays is much less. As people moved to areas farther from the equator with lower UV levels, natural selection favored lighter skin which allowed UV rays to penetrate and produce essential vitamin D.
  • Race mixing has been a thing since humans first evolved 200,000 years ago. We even interbred with different human subspecies, such as Neanderthals and Denisovans.
 
Well his ancestors wouldnt give a shit because Racism is really new concept but It's the knights crusader helmet which bothers me. Rejects the universal brotherhood of Christ and has never fought in a single battle. What a pissant.
 
You forgot to mention that all these people think that Europe in the 1400s-1800s is a perfect representation of "White" culture.

Gotta love how my favorite period of history is the main battleground for the sjws and race realists.

The funniest part is even if an ethno state is formed, people are just gonna fight about what white is more white. Hope none of them have Italian or Irish in them because after this, they're next on the shitlist.

During the height of the KKK in the 1920s the USA basically limited legal immigration to Canada.

"WE WUZ VIKANGZ N SHIIYIIT"

Its weird. They represent Norse civilization as just a bunch of rampaging barbarians when its more nuanced and interesting but yet hate blacks for basically being the same as their caricatured version of the Norse.
 
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Human races are equally or more genetically differentiated than recognized subspecies from other species are.

Do you have a source on that? Because I find that hard to believe. The consensus of nearly all scientists is that race is more of a social construct than a biological one. Although there are genetic differences between populations, we're more similar than we are different. As far as I'm aware, scientists do not classify races as subspecies because there's not enough genetic differentiation.
 
Do you have a source on that? Because I find that hard to believe. The consensus of nearly all scientists is that race is more of a social construct than a biological one. Although there are genetic differences between populations, we're more similar than we are different. As far as I'm aware, scientists do not classify races as subspecies because there's not enough genetic differentiation.
Oh but don’t your understand, it’s all some Jewish plot to perpetuate white genocide and lead us to a horrible future of not giving a shit about race! Those scientists have been cucked by communist Soros bucks, etc, etc
 
Yeah, after briefly browsing @Flynt's Missing Pecker's post history, I have a feeling that's what he'd say.

People who obsess over race are lolcows.
People who obsess over race have so little to be proud of in their own life or even their own family history that they have to try to take credit for people who happen to have the same amount of melanin as them
 
Do you have a source on that? Because I find that hard to believe. The consensus of nearly all scientists is that race is more of a social construct than a biological one. Although there are genetic differences between populations, we're more similar than we are different. As far as I'm aware, scientists do not classify races as subspecies because there's not enough genetic differentiation.
We all know that this consensus exists only because of left-wing terrorism. Anyone disagreeing with these dogmas gets hounded out of academia by lynch mobs, so people stay quiet now.
 
Yeah, after briefly browsing @Flynt's Missing Pecker's post history, I have a feeling that's what he'd say.

People who obsess over race are lolcows.

Is he wrong though? Scientists will classify 2 types of birds as seperate subspecies because one has a red stripe. Humans evolve separately over thousands of years and not only are they not separate subspecies, there are no differences other than melanin.

He's right about prisons too, they largely self segregate by race.
 
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Wow, I have a lot to say about this.
  • First of all, that woman is fucking gorgeous. Her cheekbones could cut glass. Fuck those 200,000 years, she's worth it.
  • Does... does he not know that black people are the same species as white people?
  • A couple breeding outside of their more narrow racial group, therefore allowing for a greater variation in genes among their offspring than a couple with more similar characteristics is... setting back evolution? I’m starting to think this racist doesn’t have a firm grasp of biological principles.
  • So the man who has already succeeded in passing on his genetics has failed at evolution. Makes sense.
  • White skin is actually very recent. It only started showing up in the last 8,000 years or so. So 200,000 years doesn't even make sense. And skin color differences are explained by the presence of UV rays. In places closer to the equator, the sunlight is harsher; melanin acts as a natural sunscreen that protects people from the more harmful effects of UV radiation. Meanwhile, in places farther away from the equator (such as Europe), the amount of UV rays is much less. As people moved to areas farther from the equator with lower UV levels, natural selection favored lighter skin which allowed UV rays to penetrate and produce essential vitamin D.
  • Race mixing has been a thing since humans first evolved 200,000 years ago. We even interbred with different human subspecies, such as Neanderthals and Denisovans.
Far as those sperging over this goes, much as we all descended from a common ancestor, some speds are too busy trying to think their own group had to be a beacon of intelligence and civilzation when everyones ancestors were too busy killing each other and trying to survive the shitty conditions they were in. That image is pretty good though in generating salt from all sorts of tards such as bucket-helm spergs who think the man is committing white genocide or some salty black man who thinks that woman is a sellout that simply hungers for white cock.
 
Quoting this because those who mindlessly repeat "RACE IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT" very rarely care about scientific inquiry.

The pozzing about race is horrifying even in scientific, para-medical textbooks. I have here on my table a book called Evolutionary Medicine (Sterns and Medzhitov, 2016, Sinauer -- a very good publisher of biological texts). In Chapter 2, after presenting a detailed trajectory (with a cladogram) how modern human evolved since they left Africa, the authors give a subsection entitled "Support of the concept of race is weak" (p.34). The idea is that, when you pick two random people in the world and examine their genes, you'll find that only 10% of their genetic differences are accountable by race. The percentage difference depends on how you look at things, and I reproduce the table (p.36) in the book, with minor modifications

PolymorphismAuthorNumber of LociNumber of groups (i.e. races)Diff. within populations / samples (%)Diff. among populations within same groups (%)Difference among groups (%)
ProteinLewotin (1972)17784.58.36.3
ProteinRyman (1983)253862.811.2
DNA (RFLP)Barbujani (1997)1094 or 584.44.710.8
Single-nucleotide
Polymorphism (SNP)
Li (2008 )650000788.92.19
(I'm not allowed to add hyperlinks in a table, so I have to list the papers separately. Fortunately, all are available for free.)
Lewotin (1972). The approportionment of human diversity.
Ryman (1983). Differences in the relative distribution of human gene diversity between electrophoretic and red and white cell antigen loci.
Barbujani (1997). An apportionment of human DNA diversity.
Li (2008 ). Worldwide Human Relationships Inferred from Genome-Wide Patterns of Variation

So in summary, current research show that race can account for 6-11% of the difference found between humans. So can we say, as Sterns and Medzhitov did, that "Support of the concept of race is weak"? My first complain is terminology. The authors seems to have confused "weakness" with "lack of magnitude". When you say that the support of something is (statistically) weak, we don't mean that the observed differences are small; what we mean is that the observed difference are likely to be due to chance (in statistical parlance, we say the p-value is insignificant). So we can say "there is a strong support of a tiny difference" and vice versa. Of the four papers, only Barbujani presented the p-values (and they are often significant). Li uses various high-powered statistical tests and interpretation is not straightforword (SNP analysis itself carries oodles of statistical problems anyway). So in conclusion, Sterns and Medzhitov are NOT justified to say that "support of the concept of race is weak"; at most they can say, "race accounts for a small difference of human biology, though the strength of the support is untested."

My second complain concerns the validity of quantitative analysis. The two protein studies only measured a handful of proteins expressed in the red and white blood cells, which are poor shadows of the vast variety of human proteins. Comparisons between DNA sequences and especially SNPs can tell us only so much. We know there is a difference, but we don't know whether, or how much of the difference in DNA are actually expressed, or contribute to (or even correlate with) gene expression. In other words. we don't know whether the differences matter.

To further alleviate the rage of SJW harpies, Sterns and Medzhitov added that in the summary of the section (p.36):

Biological support of the concept of race is weak; race is primary a social construct.

Yet they want to have their cake and eat it too, for in the next sentence:

Because of the huge size of the genome, however, there are genetic difference associated with ethnicity that contain useful medical information about drug metabolism and disease resistance.

So race is "primary a social construct", but said "social construct" somehow informs us about drug metabolism, etc. Riddle me that! I conclude that 1) race is almost certainly a biologically real phenomenon, and 2) pure quantitative assays, noting just how DNA sequences differ but NOT whether they differ in places that matter, may not represent the true magnitude of difference between races (for which we need to compare, say, the transcriptomes of various cell types for a large number of people, and that's tedious and expensive even today).
 
Quoting this because those who mindlessly repeat "RACE IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT" very rarely care about scientific inquiry.
So the guy is complaining that they are using misleading sentences and that they their scientific data is lacking because of their small sample size?
 
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