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We all want a clean garden too, but would you pay $10.000 today to clean your garden? Of course not, particularly since you know that there are cheaper ways to do so. So the cost/benefit analysis should be made and we should understand it as well as possible.

There are plenty of reasons to have a skeptical attitude in regards to anthropogenic climate change and to proposed solutions to deal with it. I'll not get into it deeper in this thread, but we can hash it out in another if you want to.

And if I'm wrong, and you would still want it clean AT ANY COST, then put yourself as far into debt as possible today and give that money to a paris accord like foundation. That's what at any cost means. Would you find it worth all the money you have? Or should we consider cost/benefit?

Well, considering our very survival as a species may depend on it, I'd say it's worth any cost. We only have one earth. My survival doesn't depend on me having a clean garden. I can always go to the grocery store. We can't go to another planet to live on (that we know of, anyway)
 
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I was specifically thinking of Kerry on that, who literally ran a campaign that was nothing but "Wow Dubya sucks." Well, yeah, he did, but what do you have to offer, you weird, Lurch looking motherfucker? And he lost.

I feel like Kerry's face was far too long to win any US political election.
 
Well, considering our very survival as a species may depend on it, I'd say it's worth any cost. We only have one earth. My survival doesn't depend on me having a clean garden. I can always go to the grocery store. We can't go to another planet to live on (that we know of, anyway

Hey now, why don't you want to clean your garden at any cost? The worst that can happen is that you'll end up with a clean garden and a clean environment is very important for our (your) health.

We all have to do our part. What if the farmers also refused to pay $10000 per acre to keep their farms clean?

Okay, you get the point. The worst that can happen isn't that you end up with a clean environment, the worst that can happen is that trillions are spent inefficiently and ineffectively or on entirely different things than what they are earmarked for.

It actually matters to get the science accurate as well as acknowledging the past mistakes, because otherwise the business of climate science will continue to lose credibility and that is all too convenient for the dirty manufacturers.

In my own country there is a considerable scandal with fudging the temperature data to make things seem more dire than they are. A couple of researchers discovered that they changed the measuring station a couple of years back. And because their new location, they decided, because the couple of years of measuring had a different average than the old measuring station, that they should amend all 50 years of measuring data and increase it by a couple of degrees, where suddenly we are experiencing record numbers of heat waves in the last 50 years according to the data.

There have also been studies done where climate researchers say there is not an atmosphere that is very open to differing opinions. It's been one or two years since I've read it, but I can probably dig it up if you're interested.

My issue is not with investing resources in climate change research, or dealing with potential climate change catastrophes, but considering the amounts spent, more responsible and more open to inquiry atmosphere is essential. The demand to throw any amount at it when there are significant parts where we're not even sure they're contributing to the danger.

I guess it would be one thing if even half of the catastrophic predictions had been accurate, but they haven't been. As it stands it looks like a really large doomsday cult sometimes, including slick profiteers at the top.

Well, I doubt I managed to sway your mind, but I did my best introducing some more depth to the subject. I think I've derailed sufficiently. I'll read any response to it and answers any questions regarding this, but otherwise I'll leave it at this in this thread.
 
Yep. It's fucked up if Obama does it, it's fucked up when Trump does it. Anyone defending that shit just because the other guy did it too is also a piece of shit.

That's what refugees are counting on, bring the kids, any kids, with you and you have a better shot. Because they can drum up sympathy, the kids are simply being used as pawns. But because that's plastered all over the news, people seem to forget the kids who are citizens in their own country.

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At some point you have to be realistic. You can't just go around and think you are Michael Jackson and how you will save all the children and heal the world. What a naively optimistic stance. The US can't even fix it's own problems, and yet people want to create more problems? I guess life must be too easy for some then. Maybe we should turn the US into the third world shithole, just so people can have some real problems again.
 
That's what refugees are counting on, bring the kids, any kids, with you and you have a better shot. Because they can drum up sympathy, the kids are simply being used as pawns. But because that's plastered all over the news, people seem to forget the kids who are citizens in their own country.

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At some point you have to be realistic. You can't just go around and think you are Michael Jackson and how you will save all the children and heal the world. What a naively optimistic stance. The US can't even fix it's own problems, and yet people want to create more problems? I guess life must be too easy for some then. Maybe we should turn the US into the third world shithole, just so people can have some real problems again.

I am not saying we need to save the world, but putting kids into cages is not the answer, either. I can't believe you're defending that shit.

I feel like Kerry's face was far too long to win any US political election.

Yeah Kerry really sucked. He had the charisma of a cardboard box and his positions on any issue depended on who they were talking to. I voted for Bush in '04, Kerry was literally the worst candidate the Democrats could've nominated.
 
Yeah Kerry really sucked. He had the charisma of a cardboard box and his positions on any issue depended on who they were talking to. I voted for Bush in '04, Kerry was literally the worst candidate the Democrats could've nominated.

He was the equivalent of nominating Mitt Romney.

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I am not saying we need to save the world, but putting kids into cages is not the answer, either. I can't believe you're defending that shit.

I'm not defending the cages, I'm saying you're being played for a fool. They are using Obama's plan to smear Trump, and you are falling for it hook line and sinker. Maybe you want to.

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children in cages is metal as fuck, also based. too bad trump didn't think of the idea himself, probably because he has brain damage and is also old and stupid. also remember alien gonzales being deported by bill clinton? fucking based, looks like i'm a #Dumbocrat2020 #SuspendDallas'sMultipass
 
I'm not defending the cages, I'm saying you're being played for a fool. They are using Obama's plan to smear Trump, and you are falling for it hook line and sinker. Maybe you want to.

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And Obama supporting them is just another mark on his already deeply-sullied presidency, but, and stop me if you don't understand this, if you inherit an atrocious practice and don't discontinue it, and in fact explicitly endorse it, you are complicit in said atrocity. ESPECIALLY if you're the chief executive of an entire country. I don't think this is a controversial opinion, except, inexplicably, when Trump is talked about.
 
but, and stop me if you don't understand this,
I've seen you pull this shit quite a few times, and you're not alone. I wonder, are people you supercilious assholes because you're so impassioned about your beliefs, or do you pretend to be so impassioned about your beliefs in order to exercise your superciliousness?
 
I've seen you pull this shit quite a few times, and you're not alone. I wonder, are people you supercilious assholes because you're so impassioned about your beliefs, or do you pretend to be so impassioned about your beliefs in order to exercise your superciliousness?
1. When you explain the same concept multiple times and the point is ignored, it's generally best to assume ignorance rather than malice.
2. I believe very strongly in people trying to be rational, especially in the political sphere. I am usually disappointed, but this site is one of the places where reason sometimes prevails.
3. I've never made a claim to being a paragon of manners.
 
That was a nice evasion, but it's complete bullshit. Not a single thing you're claiming to try to do requires you to be a supercilious asshole. In fact, if you're actually trying to do what you claim, it gets in the way. That is why I do not believe you.
 
I am not saying we need to save the world, but putting kids into cages is not the answer, either. I can't believe you're defending that shit.

I agree. Shoot them before they cross or just toss them back into Mexico. (Get their DNA first so they can be permanently barred from ever entering the US again.) Keeping kids or people in general in these camps is just inhumane.

Though the only reason we're in this situation is because of the Democrats, so put the blame where it belongs.
 
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And Obama supporting them is just another mark on his already deeply-sullied presidency, but, and stop me if you don't understand this, if you inherit an atrocious practice and don't discontinue it, and in fact explicitly endorse it, you are complicit in said atrocity. ESPECIALLY if you're the chief executive of an entire country. I don't think this is a controversial opinion, except, inexplicably, when Trump is talked about.

Stop for a second and think about what you are proposing first. Okay, Trump says he will shut down those facilities, where do the kids go? Motels? How much will this cost? How much money will you need to spend on staff. Will you need to install cameras for security? How much will these new facilities going to take to be built?

So then Trump spends a few billion or more dollars and does what the media says, and 12 months later the kids are in a fancy super government child center (assuming the dems don't block it to make him look bad).

But you don't care anymore, because the media isn't reporting on it, they never gave a shit, it was about making Trump look bad, they don't care about kids, get real, otherwise it'd be front page news the first day the photos appeared during Obamas term.

But now they are talking about something else from another presidency that Trump inherited. So either way the media wins.
 
Isn't this thread supposed to be about /r/The_Donald/? You know, the group of mongs that post pictures of BASED chubby latinx Border Patrol ladies in front of the fence with ridiculous tags like 'finish the [sic] wall'? And memes like this?
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Rather than stupid arguments between hysterical neoliberals and the very boomercons who populate T_D?
 
Isn't this thread supposed to be about /r/The_Donald/? You know, the group of mongs that post pictures of BASED chubby latinx Border Patrol ladies in front of the fence with ridiculous tags like 'finish the [sic] wall'? And memes like this?
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Rather than stupid arguments between hysterical neoliberals and the very boomercons who populate T_D?
Isn't this thread supposed to be about /r/The_Donald/? You know, the group of mongs that post pictures of BASED chubby latinx Border Patrol ladies in front of the fence with ridiculous tags like 'finish the [sic] wall'? And memes like this?
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Rather than stupid arguments between hysterical neoliberals and the very boomercons who populate T_D?

You should back a few pages there was some guys that seemed like he was from r/The_donald who was basically just calling for outright killing of leftists that he called "not even human" now thats a real r/The_donald poster.
 
If nothing else, Trump deserves credit for those record number of sex trafficking and pedophilia ring arrests. Bringing down NXIVM despite its connections is really impressive.
 
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