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When you hit peak wokeness:
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Hitler was apparently better than Trump

They've done it, they've made "Hitler liked dogs too!" into an actual argument.

He also hated Russia so Hitler was infinitely better

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wow I can barely comprehend this is reality. People went from “OrangeMan as bad as Hitler” to “OrangeMan is Hitler” to “OrangeMan worse than Hitler”. It’s a bad day to be a WWII veteran when your achievements of stopping a legit threat to the world is diminished by people who have never struggled at anything harder than ‘getting up from a bed while very sleepy’. JFC.
 
He also hated Russia so Hitler was infinitely better

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Ya know....I never thought I would live in a time when mainstream media/academia figures would unironically agree with a sentiment along the lines of "Ya know Hitler's merciless racial genocide waged against the Russian people (bodycount over 15 million) and post-war plan to exterminate them wholesale with only a few million left as slaves (projected bodycount 100 million+) proves he was a better man than Donald Trump" but here we fucking are.

As if any further proof was needed that Trumpocalypse was exactly what the entire left and the establishment deserved
 

Garry's gay little forum was (and still is by the looks of it) the biggest hive of arrogant ban-happy faggots outside ResetERA.

Fast & Furious? You mean Bush & Obama's ATF "gunwalking" program that ended up getting a border patrol agent killed? The one that supposedly ended 5 years before Trump was elected?

His name was Brian Terry :semperfidelis:

On the topic of the "nationalism" comment it's nice to see they reacted just like everyone knew they would. That'll totally show those racist NPC meme using russian bots how wrong they are.
 
FTFY.

Seriously, when your entire tribe was 5000 people, you all went to the place your men were going to conquer. The women and children threw rocks from the sidelines.

I think you may have misunderstood what i was saying, when i say "wars have started over less" i mean wars have started over less important events than 5000 people marching towards your border. Wars started when Kings looked at eachother funny, for teh media to class that caravan as unimportant is the height of folly and will only bite them in the arse when the time comes.
 
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Checkmate, whoever it is they're targeting.

Hey, Democrats

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Also, Nate Plastic has declared there's an 86% chance that the Democrats take the House whilst at the same time DNC leaders are changing their tune from a Blue Wave to a hard, bitter battle and most early voting is massively positive for the GOP.

Trump just sank $6 million more into campaign ads and scheduled 10 more rallies. Dis gon b gud.
 
I recall some hard-line anti-Communists in the 1980's who would mumble that the Nazis might have been a better deal for the world. Thank fuckin' God those dinosaurs are gone, hey?
 
Ya know....I never thought I would live in a time when mainstream media/academia figures would unironically agree with a sentiment along the lines of "Ya know Hitler's merciless racial genocide waged against the Russian people (bodycount over 15 million) and post-war plan to exterminate them wholesale with only a few million left as slaves (projected bodycount 100 million+) proves he was a better man than Donald Trump" but here we fucking are.

As if any further proof was needed that Trumpocalypse was exactly what the entire left and the establishment deserved
Scratch a Liberal and a Fascist bleeds.
 
Fast & Furious? You mean Bush & Obama's ATF "gunwalking" program that ended up getting a border patrol agent killed? The one that supposedly ended 5 years before Trump was elected?

This is making my fucking head hurt.

Hey now, F&F had nothing to do with the Bush-era Operation Wide Receiver other than it involved guns and the ATF. WR was done in cooperation with the foreign governments and involved either nonfunctional guns or shipments with GPS trackers, lost zero guns, actually made arrests, and was over and done years before F&F started.

Fast and Furious Sperg thread post?

This is long. Sorry not sorry.

Part 1: Lets get the intro out of the way for the newbies and short of memory:
Fast and Furious was an ATF (Part of the justice department) operation that approved sales to people that were buying guns on the behalf of mexican drug cartels. Some store owners were in on the operation, some sales were proceded over the object of store owners.

Fast and Furious was an evolution/continuation of "Operation Wide Reciever", which was an ATF program that coordinated with Mexican authorities to track the shipments and bust the straw buyers and their handlers shortly after they crossed the border. Operation Wide Receiver was successful, but only somewhat - you busted a lot of buyers (who often had no cartel affiliation) or low-level people working for the cartels. They wanted bigger fish, and do that, you'd have to allow those low-level buyers to deliver the weapons up the chain.

Part 2: This is where Fast and Furious came in, and where the problem started.

The primary issue with F&F can be summed up very quickly: Lack of coordination. Specifically there was zero coordination with Mexican authorities.
There was a legit reason for this, which was the Mexican police (for a number of reasons) wanted to keep doing the low-level busts. They were flashy & made good press. These longer operations weren't like that, and they also ran the risk of angering the Cartels. The other reason was information security - you had to coordinate only with vetted Mexican agents, or things would likely leak the cartel. The ATF would also need to coordinate with FBI, customs, etc. Also with various Justice Department offices to help the Mexicans & possibly extradite some of the targets to the US to face charges here.
None of this happened.

None of this happened for several reasons. One of the documented reasons was a power struggle in the Albuquerque ATF office. Two field agents thought the program was a waste of time and hated their new boss, and basically did everything they could to make sure it wasn't a success. These agents never were punished for F&F, but were reprimanded for other instances of "insubordination". There was a whistle blower in the ATF office. They didn't like the office head either, was afraid of retribution from the ATF, so wrote a memo to the Justice Department about the extreme disfunction of the Albuquerque ATF office.
It is known that that a mention of memo made it into a brief to Eric Holder.

The office head also wrote reports that were included in breifings to Eric Holder. This program netted pretty much zero arrests, but there was references of how many guns and how many buyers had been allowed accross the border. Attorney General Eric Holder was provided this information. Whether he read it or not is not known.

What is known is Eric Holder's stance on guns:


Part 3: Parts 1 & 2 are provably factual. Part 3 is where we dip into various level of speculation.

When Mexico finds guns they can't ID, they send the serial numbers to the US and basically asked "hey, are these yours?". These gun requests were being mentioned in articles where "98% PERCENT OF GUNS IN MEXICO CRIME COME FROM US!" - what they actually meant was 98% of the time when the Mexican authorities thought a gun came from the US, they were right. But that wasn't the majority of all seized weapons.
This serial number tracking was how Fast and Furious got green-lit with zero mexican coordination. The plan was to use these serial number requests to track the movement of guns until the Mexicans could be brought on board. But no one made any efforts to bring the mexicans on board.

Until Terry was shot, it looked like gun crime in Mexico would be used to restrict or ban gun sales in the US. Obama mentioned it in speeches, it was a good slow burn work they were doing. Then Terry got shot, and whole program got thrust front and center when people started wondering where that cartel gun came from.
The best part of THAT is the questioning originated to try to make gun sellers look bad by selling to obvious criminals. It just didn't turn out that way.

What seems likely is that Eric Holder knew about a program that would make gun sellers look bad, and allowed it to continue because it could be used to advance his agenda of gun control. Obama almost assuredly never knew about this - even if Holder was up to nefarious shit, he would not tell Obama-senpai; not only to keep working on his personal agenda, but also to shield him if it did blow up. The ass-grabbing scramble in the executive after the lid was blown off is pretty good evidence of being caught completely pants-around-ankles.

the tl;dr Fast and Furious wasn't Obama's fault. He did use executive privilege to cover for Attorney General. AG Eric Holder also didn't start the program, or explicitly green light it (the AG's office signed off with his authority, but no evidence it actually made it to him), but it continued under his leadership and his office was made aware of it and the problems with it repeatedly, but its entirely possible he never actually read the information. So he was at best incompetent, and at worse abusing his office to advance a personal agenda, and either way would have (rightly) crucified before congress had Obama not saved his ass and allowed him to quietly step aside a year later.
To a job back at his lawfirm, the lawfirm that represents many of the largest Wallstreet banks. The very same banks where no one ever faced charges for the 2008 financial implosion.

That said, blame Obama anyway. And remind your reeeesistance friends when they start in on the next round of "Orange Man BAd" of that time Obama used executive privilege to shield an incompetent or corrupt political ally.
 
Shitlord, Ghandi was a racist and a misogynist. Don’t @ me.

But seriously, SJWs are fine with brown people being racist towards others and proud of their heritage and nation. It’s whites that can’t be any of those things.

Nope..cant be proud and white. But you can come from a shithole country to a white country and glady wave your shitty shithole country flag around in the white country.
 
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