UN Parliament initiates steps under Article 7 over Hungary's 'systemic threat' to EU values - EU is Hungary for revenge...

https://www.france24.com/en/2018091...punitive-action-against-hungary-over-rule-law
The EU parliament voted Wednesday to sanction Hungary for posing a "systemic threat" to EU values and the rule of law, initiating punitive action under the EU's rarely invoked Article 7, which could suspend Hungary's voting rights.
The European Parliament on Wednesday launched an action that could unleash unprecedented political sanctions against Viktor Orban's populist Hungarian government for posing a "systemic threat" to the EU's founding values.

The vote amounts to a stunning political blow for Prime Minister Orban, who had told the parliament on Tuesday that a scathing report leading to the vote was an insult to Hungary's honour and people.

Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto wasted little time in slamming the vote as "nothing less than the petty revenge of pro-immigration politicians".

With elections for a new parliament in May 2019, the vote reflects growing pushback among traditional parties in Europe against the rise of populists, who oppose migration and are accused of undermining the rule of law.

Adopted by 448 votes for to 197 against and with 48 abstentions, the motion marked the first time the parliament has itself initiated steps under Article Seven of the European Union's treaty. An earlier action against Poland was initiated by the EU executive.

Dutch Greens MEP Judith Sargentini, who spearheaded the vote, smiled broadly and breathed a sigh of relief before embracing her supporters in parliament in the French city of Strasbourg.

"It is a positive sign of this parliament taking responsibility and wanting action," Sargentini told a press conference afterward.

She had urged colleagues not to let Hungary off the hook, declaring that Orban's rule "violates the values on which this union was built."

The vote was based on a report that voiced concerns about judicial independence, corruption, freedom of expression, academic freedom, religious freedom, and the rights of minorities and refugees under eight years of Orban rule.

The vote takes the first steps under Article 7 of the EU Treaty, known by some in Brussels as the "nuclear option", which could ultimately strip Hungary of its EU voting rights.

Other EU governments could halt any further action, however, and Poland has warned it would do so.

'Historic vote'

In a brief speech to parliament on Tuesday, Orban vowed that Hungary would resist any attempt to "blackmail" it into softening its anti-migrant stance, which he charged was the motive behind the vote.

Though defiant, he was resigned to the outcome, saying the parliament seemed to have already made up its mind.

"Hungary will protect its borders, stop illegal migration and defend its rights," said Orban, who embraces a vision of a Christian Europe and opposes an influx of Muslims and others.

Opposition to Orban's vision does not just come from the left, with disquiet also in the main centre-right parliamentary group, the European People's Party (EPP).

The EPP's leader, Manfred Weber, said he would vote in favour of the motion targeting Orban's government, whose Fidesz party belongs to his grouping.

But a party spokesman said the group was divided about 50-50.

While Orban's actions have provoked opposition, they have been applauded by populists in the EU, with prominent far-right figures floating the idea of forging a pan-European alliance ahead of next year's elections.

THREATENED EU SANCTIONS 'ONLY PARTLY ABOUT HUNGARY'S IMMIGRATION POLICY'

The Commission, headed by EPP member Jean-Claude Juncker, has repeatedly clashed with Orban's government, especially since Budapest refused to admit asylum seekers under an EU scheme launched at the height of the migration crisis in 2015.

In July, the EU executive body warned it could take Budapest to the European Court of Justice over laws under which anyone assisting an undocumented migrant could be jailed for a year.

The top EU court could impose fines, which would be less drastic for Hungary than losing its voting rights.

The vote was hailed as "historic" by Berber Biala-Hettinga, Amnesty International's expert on human rights in the EU.

"The European Parliament rightly stood up for the Hungarian people and for the EU. They made it clear that human rights, the rule of law and democratic values are not up for negotiation," she said.
 
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The EU is basically already Dead

>V4 refusing to follow Foreign and Border policy

>Denmark / Italy / Austria / Balkans Doing same thing

>Still no United Currency / Monetary system

The EU is like a shittier balkanizing version of Switzerland.
 
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>undermining democratic rules
>in a bureaucratic nightmare of a union

That's like saying Wisconsin should have a say in what Minnesota does. They're both member states of a larger union, but by the end of it the two have surprisingly different needs and cultures. The most disconcerting is Wisconsin's fetish for cheese and Minnesota's fetish for natural bodies of water. You can't reconcile that. Much like you can't force Hungary to take in people it can't legitimately care for nor has any desire to. Unless you let them do it on their terms, which the EU won't because the other member states have to stick all of their fingers in the pie that is Hungary.

Of course since borders aren't a concern for the EU, I'm not entirely sure why it matters which states be allocated what amount... since the refugees are just gonna want to flee into Germany or France, the wealthier states with better welfare benefits.
 
>undermining democratic rules
>in a bureaucratic nightmare of a union

That's like saying Wisconsin should have a say in what Minnesota does. They're both member states of a larger union, but by the end of it the two have surprisingly different needs and cultures. The most disconcerting is Wisconsin's fetish for cheese and Minnesota's fetish for natural bodies of water. You can't reconcile that. Much like you can't force Hungary to take in people it can't legitimately care for nor has any desire to. Unless you let them do it on their terms, which the EU won't because the other member states have to stick all of their fingers in the pie that is Hungary.

Of course since borders aren't a concern for the EU, I'm not entirely sure why it matters which states be allocated what amount... since the refugees are just gonna want to flee into Germany or France, the wealthier states with better welfare benefits.

Yep, the relocated ones would just flee back to Germany or Sweden unless chained to a rock.


It is. Look how big it is.
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Well Soros did grew up here, so I guess they got a point, just not how they think they do!
 
>undermining democratic rules
>in a bureaucratic nightmare of a union

That's like saying Wisconsin should have a say in what Minnesota does. They're both member states of a larger union, but by the end of it the two have surprisingly different needs and cultures. The most disconcerting is Wisconsin's fetish for cheese and Minnesota's fetish for natural bodies of water. You can't reconcile that. Much like you can't force Hungary to take in people it can't legitimately care for nor has any desire to. Unless you let them do it on their terms, which the EU won't because the other member states have to stick all of their fingers in the pie that is Hungary.

Of course since borders aren't a concern for the EU, I'm not entirely sure why it matters which states be allocated what amount... since the refugees are just gonna want to flee into Germany or France, the wealthier states with better welfare benefits.

The American reaction is more concerning.

"They're becoming Russia 2.0, we should intervene in their politics."


We've got famines and genocides but fuck that, lets take action in the name of "Diversity".
 
The American reaction is more concerning.

"They're becoming Russia 2.0, we should intervene in their politics."


We've got famines and genocides but fuck that, lets take action in the name of "Diversity".

Whatever CNN beats, Trump seems to be agreeing with us. Plus, you can't exactly just drop bombs of peace and freedom on a NATO country.
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_invasions_of_Europe

The Hungarians are indeed one of the greatest threats to the international order, but what is this "United States", we need the Holy Roman Empire to do something about this menace!

But seriously lol, a landlocked nation of not even 10 million people and shrinking, with no nukes and a military full of old Soviet equipment, and no natural resources worth mentioning, is now one of the great threats to the world. George Soros must be really fucking pissed his home country hates him that much.
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_invasions_of_Europe

The Hungarians are indeed one of the greatest threats to the international order, but what is this "United States", we need the Holy Roman Empire to do something about this menace!

But seriously lol, a landlocked nation of not even 10 million people and shrinking, with no nukes and a military full of old Soviet equipment, and no natural resources worth mentioning, is now one of the great threats to the world. George Soros must be really fucking pissed his home country hates him that much.

That map has "West slavs, White croatians" on it to the north. So... there, proof some slavs are white! Durr hurr durr!

But we are fearsome and terrible, for we got the worst music ever made.

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I give you the one and only... "Black Jack!" and his parody:

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That map has "West slavs, White croatians" on it to the north. So... there, proof some slavs are white! Durr hurr durr!

They try so hard to be white they named an entire country "White Russia" which is apparently a shitty knockoff of Russia with more potatoes which are now radioactive.

But we are fearsome and terrible, for we got the worst music ever made.

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I give you the one and only... "Black Jack!" and his parody:

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I did not know the one black guy in Hungary recorded an album. But I guess if ripoffs of US country music in communist Hungary were a thing, why not copy other shit?
 
They try so hard to be white they named an entire country "White Russia" which is apparently a shitty knockoff of Russia with more potatoes which are now radioactive.



I did not know the one black guy in Hungary recorded an album. But I guess if ripoffs of US country music in communist Hungary were a thing, why not copy other shit?

He did and his "craft" is the music equivalent of Sonichu. Say it after me "I like titties, titties I don't give away, titties are mine!" .

He also blasted the jews Cartman style on national media, true lolcow fashion with a fury even /pol/ would admire.

He is certainly known to give... colour to the hungarian social media with his zany antics. He is like a whole country's court jester, at once to be admired for the fun he brings and ashamed of because of how trashy he can be.

Then me mistook the journalists photoing him for a KKK lynchmob. We don't even have KKK here, only KFC! :(

Oh, and he admires Hitler for his anti-jew works. Dude would make the CNN go cray-cray!
 
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I love how Germany has just figured out that maybe just fucking maybe forcing a country to take in more refugees than they know what to do with and fining to kingdom come if they don't might damage relations with that country just a teensy bit.
 
Except... this has nothing to do with refugees? Hungary's blocking of border passage was successful enough that all the refugees and economic migrants don't even think of going trough Hungary, and the whole relocation programme auggestion got scrapped, following even its biggest proponents like George Soros abandoning it.

Meanwhile, Hungary's Orban continues to undermine the checks and balances of his government, and monopolising the media in his country. Democracy is one of EU's founding principles, so they have a right to deal with Hungary for undermining it.
 
Yep, the relocated ones would just flee back to Germany or Sweden unless chained to a rock.
This literally happened many times already.
A charity brings some refugees to Czechia/Poland/Lithuania/Estonia, and within a month they're gone for Germany. They're even running away from Finland and Austria, and I don't think those are that bad.
If you want them to stay in Eastern EU, you need to, I don't know, build a heavy guarded camp there? But I doubt that'd look good.
 
Except... this has nothing to do with refugees? Hungary's blocking of border passage was successful enough that all the refugees and economic migrants don't even think of going trough Hungary, and the whole relocation programme auggestion got scrapped, following even its biggest proponents like George Soros abandoning it.

Meanwhile, Hungary's Orban continues to undermine the checks and balances of his government, and monopolising the media in his country. Democracy is one of EU's founding principles, so they have a right to deal with Hungary for undermining it.

"Monopolising media" just means cutting state funding to opposition party channels. Like... maybe, the oppostion parties should fund their networks instead of the goverment? Lol. Does Trump fund CNN in the US?

Mind, I agree with you, we should be thrown out of the Eu, their culture is not for us.

Besides, our indepence is more important than democracy anyway.
 
This literally happened many times already.
A charity brings some refugees to Czechia/Poland/Lithuania/Estonia, and within a month they're gone for Germany. They're even running away from Finland and Austria, and I don't think those are that bad.
If you want them to stay in Eastern EU, you need to, I don't know, build a heavy guarded camp there? But I doubt that'd look good.

Finland's pretty bad unless you want to sit around and get drunk all day, which according to the refugees is absolutely haram.

"Monopolising media" just means cutting state funding to opposition party channels. Like... maybe, the oppostion parties should fund their networks instead of the goverment? Lol. Does Trump fund CNN in the US?

No, but Trump funds PBS which is somewhat biased (when it's actually showing news). And can't forget about NPR which is definitely not a neutral source.
 
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