🐱 Trump Made 1,950 Untrue Claims in 2017.

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http://time.com/5084420/donald-trump-lies-claims-fact-checks/

When President Trump sat down with the New York Times for an interviewrecently, he said something untrue about every 75 seconds.

That’s not just the usual political boasting and grandstanding. Those were actual, verifiable claims which professional fact checkers investigated and found to be untrue.

For example, Trump said in the interview that “virtually every Democrat” has said that the Trump campaign did not collude with the Russians during the 2016 election, while there was “tremendous collusion” between Democrats and the Russians.

That’s not just false but “breathtakingly false,” as one fact-checker put it. Democrats have not exonerated Trump, though some have been circumspect about what we know and don’t know about Russian meddling, and there is little evidence that Democrats were colluding with Russia.

In fact, the CIA, FBI and National Security Agency found in January of 2017 that Russia aimed to discredit Hillary Clinton and help Trump’s chances in the election, so the claim doesn’t make much sense.

The interview was not an outlier, either.

A year-end review of untrue claims from FactCheck.org found Trump dominating the list with remarks on everything from his inauguration to the Russia investigation to his own tax bill. Of PolitiFact’s 483 fact checks on Trump so far, 69% were rated “mostly false,” “false” or “pants on fire,” and his claims on Russian meddling were the “Lie of the Year.” The Washington Post found 1,950 false or misleading claims made over 347 days.

It’s easy to dismiss the scale of this problem.

After all, public trust in government is near historic lows. Most Americans think politicians lie on a regular basis (though, by and large, they typically don’t), and professional fact-checkers have been around for years and not made a substantive difference in U.S. politics. Critics will point to these stories as evidence that “Donald Trump lies” and compile “lists of Trump lies,” Trump will call the media “fake news” and “dishonest” and nothing will change, right?

But there’s substantial evidence that Trump’s approach to the truth is having an effect.

A recent Quinnipiac poll showed that 62% of voters don’t think Trump is honest,while only 34% believe he is. While Republicans remain trusting, with 75% believing he’s honest, more than two-thirds of independents don’t agree and a sky-high 93% of Democrats think he’s dishonest. By comparison 52% of votersthought Trump was not honest just after the November election — a full 10-point drop over his first year.

Trump’s trustworthiness has made it harder for him to sell his policies. While the White House boasted that the Republican tax plan would give American families a tax break, a Monmouth poll showed that half of the public believed their own taxes would go up. The various “repeal and replace” bills on Obamacare also polled poorly, despite Trump’s claims about them, some of which were clearly untrue.

During the campaign, Trump’s pitch depended a lot on salesmanship. He avoided detailed plans in favor of making grand claims about how “I alone can fix it.” As the first president without a track record in politics or the military, he essentially asked voters to take his word for it. But his reputation for dishonesty is making it harder for him to do that job.
 
every other politician isn't the POTUS, though. kinda not a good thing when the guy representing your country lies constantly to the point where no one is sure if he even knows he's lying anymore.
Only the best liars get to be POTUS.
 
This reminds me of when Snopes or some other "fact checking" org checked something Trump said and concluded that what he said was was true, but they marked it as untrue because they didn't like him. If that doesn't show what a joke these mainstream checkers are then I dunno what does.
 
After all, public trust in government is near historic lows.

As is public trust is media outlets. Because these days we can literally go a check this stuff ourselves and find out it's you who have twisted meanings or lied out your ass. Honestly why should I listen to a goddamn thing you say? Trump is more believable, because he's already a billionaire and he's the President. It's not like he really has to please anyone, or create clickbait to get advertiser money.
 
The alternative is still a legion of shrill, obnoxious pseudo-moralists who will rant about 9,999+ genders and troon bathrooms and Skittles and ice tea and hoodies and FUCKING WHITE PRIVILEGE, also plz gib vote.

The bar for Trump is really, really low when you keep that in mind.

Yeah, and how many has CNN made?

They made them all for good reasons: getting Blumpf!
 
every other politician isn't the POTUS, though. kinda not a good thing when the guy representing your country lies constantly to the point where no one is sure if he even knows he's lying anymore.
Trump is the only president who has ever lied clearly
 
every other politician isn't the POTUS, though. kinda not a good thing when the guy representing your country lies constantly to the point where no one is sure if he even knows he's lying anymore.
Are you retarded? Politicians are sociopathic liars, and none of them are trustworthy. They don't care about the people, only their votes.
I also don't see how Trump is so bad when I can compare him to: Trudeau, Merkel, May, Putin, Jinping, Duterte, etc.
 
Are you exceptional? Politicians are sociopathic liars, and none of them are trustworthy. They don't care about the people, only their votes.
I also don't see how Trump is so bad when I can compare him to: Trudeau, Merkel, May, Putin, Jinping, Duterte, etc.

yes I want more of that whataboutism. it's okay for daddy trump to lie about everything because all politicians lie amirite?
 
yes I want more of that whataboutism. it's okay for daddy trump to lie about everything because all politicians lie amirite?

You seem to be running with this claim that Trump lies all the time without question. Why are you assuming he lies about everything? Because this article does some word-based flimflammery to make it seem like he says misleading or incorrect things more often than he actually does?
 
You seem to be running with this claim that Trump lies all the time without question. Why are you assuming he lies about everything? Because this article does some word-based flimflammery to make it seem like he says misleading or incorrect things more often than he actually does?

and why do you assume the article is lying? because it's not patting daddy trump's ass?

it's weird to me that anything negative towards trump must be false, but anything negative about, say, hillary clinton must be true.

I'm pretty sure it's a known thing that trump lies, or, ahem, "misspeaks". it's not like this is the only media outlet that has pointed this out. but then I guess the media is lying because liberal bias.

but to properly answer your question, no, I don't think trump literally lies all the time. maybe like 85-90% tops. :D
 
and why do you assume the article is lying? because it's not patting daddy trump's ass?

it's weird to me that anything negative towards trump must be false, but anything negative about, say, hillary clinton must be true.

I'm pretty sure it's a known thing that trump lies, or, ahem, "misspeaks". it's not like this is the only media outlet that has pointed this out. but then I guess the media is lying because liberal bias.

but to properly answer your question, no, I don't think trump literally lies all the time. maybe like 85-90% tops. :biggrin:
lol calm down
 
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