🐱 Trump Made 1,950 Untrue Claims in 2017.

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http://time.com/5084420/donald-trump-lies-claims-fact-checks/

When President Trump sat down with the New York Times for an interviewrecently, he said something untrue about every 75 seconds.

That’s not just the usual political boasting and grandstanding. Those were actual, verifiable claims which professional fact checkers investigated and found to be untrue.

For example, Trump said in the interview that “virtually every Democrat” has said that the Trump campaign did not collude with the Russians during the 2016 election, while there was “tremendous collusion” between Democrats and the Russians.

That’s not just false but “breathtakingly false,” as one fact-checker put it. Democrats have not exonerated Trump, though some have been circumspect about what we know and don’t know about Russian meddling, and there is little evidence that Democrats were colluding with Russia.

In fact, the CIA, FBI and National Security Agency found in January of 2017 that Russia aimed to discredit Hillary Clinton and help Trump’s chances in the election, so the claim doesn’t make much sense.

The interview was not an outlier, either.

A year-end review of untrue claims from FactCheck.org found Trump dominating the list with remarks on everything from his inauguration to the Russia investigation to his own tax bill. Of PolitiFact’s 483 fact checks on Trump so far, 69% were rated “mostly false,” “false” or “pants on fire,” and his claims on Russian meddling were the “Lie of the Year.” The Washington Post found 1,950 false or misleading claims made over 347 days.

It’s easy to dismiss the scale of this problem.

After all, public trust in government is near historic lows. Most Americans think politicians lie on a regular basis (though, by and large, they typically don’t), and professional fact-checkers have been around for years and not made a substantive difference in U.S. politics. Critics will point to these stories as evidence that “Donald Trump lies” and compile “lists of Trump lies,” Trump will call the media “fake news” and “dishonest” and nothing will change, right?

But there’s substantial evidence that Trump’s approach to the truth is having an effect.

A recent Quinnipiac poll showed that 62% of voters don’t think Trump is honest,while only 34% believe he is. While Republicans remain trusting, with 75% believing he’s honest, more than two-thirds of independents don’t agree and a sky-high 93% of Democrats think he’s dishonest. By comparison 52% of votersthought Trump was not honest just after the November election — a full 10-point drop over his first year.

Trump’s trustworthiness has made it harder for him to sell his policies. While the White House boasted that the Republican tax plan would give American families a tax break, a Monmouth poll showed that half of the public believed their own taxes would go up. The various “repeal and replace” bills on Obamacare also polled poorly, despite Trump’s claims about them, some of which were clearly untrue.

During the campaign, Trump’s pitch depended a lot on salesmanship. He avoided detailed plans in favor of making grand claims about how “I alone can fix it.” As the first president without a track record in politics or the military, he essentially asked voters to take his word for it. But his reputation for dishonesty is making it harder for him to do that job.
 
When President Trump sat down with the New York Times for an interviewrecently, he said something untrue about every 75 seconds.

"Untrue Claims"

"In a 30-minute interview, Trump made 24 false or misleading claims"

Already misleading Time

" We combed through the transcript and here's a quick round-up of the false, misleading or dubious claims that he made"

Okay even further from the mark

Seems not it's not only the president who misleads aye Time?
 
Oh so what were we supposed to do, vote for the Zodiac Killer instead or... dare i say... SHILLary Clinton... You're literally asking us to have voted for MURDERS!
 
Are we talking “literally untrue” or “Politifact (kinda sorta true but we’ll say it’s mostly false) untrue” here? Because there’s a big difference there, and most anti-Trump people seem to fall into the latter.

Either way, this presidential analysis is reaching into :autism: territory
 
Are we talking “literally untrue” or “Politifact (kinda sorta true but we’ll say it’s mostly false) untrue” here? Because there’s a big difference there, and most anti-Trump people seem to fall into the latter.

Either way, this presidential analysis is reaching into :autism: territory
It's Time so you should assume it's horse shit until proven otherwise.
 
Are we talking “literally untrue” or “Politifact (kinda sorta true but we’ll say it’s mostly false) untrue” here? Because there’s a big difference there, and most anti-Trump people seem to fall into the latter.

Either way, this presidential analysis is reaching into :autism: territory
There’s no telling, which is why all political discourse has become meaningless.
 
It's called the gish gallop and it's a great way to get your opponents off message and scrambling to debunk every stupid thing you say. This is how you lie to get your opponent to be thrown off kilter and start talking about whatever you want them to. Most politicians use lies in super calculated evil ways. It's the difference between the way a "psychic" will lie vs a defense attorney. I know the psychic is gonna lie to get my money or feel important but not to keep a rapist out of prison. These measures of honest or not don't really reveal the difference that most people detect in the morality of the lies Trump tells vs Clinton.
 
>Most Americans think politicians lie on a regular basis (though, by and large, they typically don’t),
Hahahahahaha no.
 
While the White House boasted that the Republican tax plan would give American families a tax break, a Monmouth poll showed that half of the public believed their own taxes would go up.

This line kills me, note it doesn't say half the public's taxes went up it says believed they would go up, well gee I wonder why with the media blaring 24-7 lies (sorry stories) about how horrible the taxes will be that people could be misled, it's a total mystery to me.
 
You really think a politician would do that? Just talk to the media and tell lies???

I feel like most (if not all) politicians are pathological liars tbh. If they're not one to begin with the lifestyle of a politician sure as hell turns them into one.
 
I suspect that if Trump ever says "when pigs fly", Politifact will rate it as an untrue claim on the basis that swine don't possess wings.

I wonder how much people actually value politifact and other "factcheckers". The big ones were openly endorsed by Clinton so that can't be for their reputation.
 

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