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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Why? He’s murdered someone who annoyed him. Cheating isn’t exactly nice but it’s not worthy of murder. Dealing death in response to humiliation means he is incapable of being in society safely.
I think this depends on the circumstance Otts.

There is a certain lack of empathy to one side betrayed in your words. I very much doubt you have the sort of physical power that would realistically mean you could kill someone by hitting them once without the aid of a weapon. Some men do. I can understand if a person hits someone once in a fit of rage ( doesn't have to be a woman, there was a man in my local news a while back who killed another man standing behind him in a nightclub queue - the guy standing behind him kept patting his arse ( or something else "uncomfortably gay" for a hetrosexual man ) - he turned around and told him to stop doing it as he didn't think it was funny, bloke did it again, so he hit him and the guy fell, banged his head on the way down and....... brown bread.
I know you can probably argue that was manslaughter, but where do you draw the line, does anyone taking a life in any circumstance other than self defence deserve the rope ? The other guy still died from one punch, but you could argue the perpetrator didn't intend to kill the victim, was provoked even after issuing a warning. Does he deserve the rope for that ?

I suppose you could argue that murder requires intent and to a certain extent some premeditation. The last quoted sentence seems to be referencing "honour killings" - something which to me is entirely different. They have intent, premeditation ( anything that involves a weapon to me at least implies premeditation ) - in fact, deliberately targeted retribution for a perceived slight.

The issue with much of this is that it is emotive and subjective - what one person believes should be a capital offence, others will not. I believe in America to make murder a capital offence in a lot of states, one has to murder whilst committing another serious crime such as kidnapping or robbery. That does remove the "lightening striking" element of unintended consequences to an extent, but I agree with a lot of posters on here that it should only be reserved for people who have premeditated in extreme and irrefutable cases.

Another important distinction is that this power to pass sentence wouldn't directly be trusted to government - it would be trusted to unelected judges. Furthermore, are we still pursuing non-jury trials ? I know at the moment it's not for crimes of this magnitude, but as with all things that Labour introduce, it's a slippery slope to the bottom.
 
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Police investigate donations by Tice company to Reform UK

Police are investigating payments to Reform UK by a company controlled by the party's deputy leader, Richard Tice, BBC News has learned.

Britain Means Business gave the party two donations of £250,000 in the run-up to the 2024 general election, when Tice was party chairman.

Tice has said the money was given to his firm by Fiona Cottrell, a significant donor to Reform UK and mother of a convicted fraudster with close links to Nigel Farage.

Tice said: "This is the first I have heard of it - if true why are the Met Police briefing the BBC before contacting interested parties? Is the Met leadership now engaged in the widespread politically motivated smear campaign against Reform and its leaders?"

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I'm not pro Reform, but I'm certainly anti BBC. I guess the institution are hoping that if they throw enough mud, some of it will stick ?

Even if Reform are getting dodgy money, is it dodgier than the money Labour are getting from the unions or the Tories are getting from business ?

They're all on the take, all influenced by people they probably shouldn't be ( or at least don't have British interests at heart ).
 
All I'm saying is with the shit about martyrdom or whatever muslim retardation maybe playing in to wanting the death penalty is I am fairly sure that they don't get their shit if they are say fucking around with pork and gay sex. Bacon, if sliced thin enough, could make for an anti muslim anal sex condom. State sanctioned anal rape then throw them in a crematorium alive.
 
I have absolutely no problem with the death penalty but it absolutely has to be used for complete cut and dry mass murders. Lowering the floor of death essentially ensures that anyone who commits a horrific crime might as well kill the person too because there's no downside and it's one less witness.

It's one of the reasons why prison sentences are so laughable for horrific crimes like child rape. If you can straight up stab a guy to death and get 25 years (out in 15) then you have to give a rapist a lower sentence by proxy.

Whereas IF you changed the game completely and simply added more prison space, you end up with a significantly safer society. Murderers go to prison for 45 years with no parole, rapists go in for 25 years no parole and you can even chuck the local crackhead in for a few years just so the problem is out of sight and out of mind. The prison population problem is one of the key reasons there doesn't seem to be justice in the UK, because once the barrier for medium level crimes becomes a slap on the wrist (because we know they're not going to fit in prison) then more medium level crimes somehow end up being committed.

Personally I'd also add clemency to anyone who kills someone who has attempted a terrorist attack, it solves the issue right there and then, saves police getting their hands dirty and prevents a stupid trial where someone is facing 20 years for braining someone who tried to 'truck of peace' their family. In a perfect world that cokehead guy who ran into people in Liverpool would see the police twiddling their thumbs in the distance while getting his entrails ripped from his chest.
 
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BBC making literal propaganda about migrants again.
The BBC is making a film about migrant delivery drivers with a studio that campaigned to lift the ban on asylum seekers working.
The project draws inspiration from Matar, a short film produced by Deadbeat Films that accuses the Government of carrying out a “wave of attacks” on the rights of refugees and asylum seekers in its epilogue.
The BBC is working with Deadbeat to make the story about the illegal food delivery driver into a feature film with the working title of Papers.
Producers on the upcoming film have also attended workshops with a taxpayer-funded “narrative-change” organisation, which seeks to use pop culture to shift negative public opinion on immigration.
News of the film’s development emerges following reports that a number of pro-migrant activists are working at the BBC.
Matar follows the eponymous asylum seeker working illegally as a delivery driver, living in a house in multiple occupation (HMO) and facing repeated instances of racism from white characters.
He is detained after running away from a police spot-check because he lacks papers, having fled an immigration detention centre.

Released in 2023, the 20-minute film was directly linked to the “Lift the Ban” campaign, an initiative by the Refugee Action charity that calls for asylum seekers to be given the right to work in the UK.
Matar was directed by Hassan Akkad, a Syrian refugee who used a fake passport to enter Britain, and was based on the experiences of Ayman Alhussein, a fellow filmmaker and Syrian national.
Mr Alhussein has criticised Britain’s immigration policy in The Guardian. In 2025, he wrote that migrants were treated as “scroungers, rapists, fighting-age men who shouldn’t have left our home countries”.
The article went on to claim that Britain was becoming more racist and that people would be targeted “simply because they are not white”.
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Last year, the Home Office recorded a record number of arrests of illegal migrants working in Britain, with widespread concerns that those held in taxpayer-funded migrant hotels were earning cash working for food delivery companies.
However, Deadbeat Films has stressed the importance of pushing social and “narrative” change.
A number of people involved in the BBC-backed production have taken part in workshops with Counterpoint Productions, a charity that aims to use the film industry to shift narratives about asylum seekers, in which they were offered advice on how to portray asylum issues.
Counterpoint has received more than £400,000 in taxpayer funding through Arts Council England in the past five years, and is part of a broader ecosystem of “narrative-change” charities, which have been given millions in grants from Left-wing foundations to sway public opinion through popular culture.

The Telegraph previously revealed that a number of narrative-change campaigners with pro-migrant views were working in the corporation.
One such charity called Heard lobbied the producers of a CBBC programme for children aged around seven called Pickle Storm to “impact the framing of migration”.
Imix, another charity, claimed to have helped place a piece about refugees finding a new home in Britain on BBC News and an article about LGBT refugees from Africa. They also placed two small-boat migrants on Question Time, with the knowledge of the BBC.
Campaigners also helped shape the sympathetic portrayal of an asylum seeker on Coronation Street.
The Telegraph also revealed that storylines on the BBC’s own soap, EastEnders, were also developed by activists dedicated to shifting public opinion on immigration.
A BBC spokesman said: “The BBC has full editorial control over all its content. It is common practice across the media industry to engage with charities, among others, for research purposes and to help understand different perspectives when working on programmes or news stories. However, the BBC has strict guidelines to ensure impartiality and editorial independence, and all films greenlit by BBC Film are made in accordance with those guidelines.”
Deadbeat Films was contacted for comment.

Students donating to unregistered Hezbollah linked charity.
Students at British universities have donated thousands for an unregistered charity with alleged links to the Lebanese terrorist group Hezbollah.
Zayer Charity Organisation, a fundraising group, has received substantial sums donated through university student societies, despite the group’s UK branch not being covered by charity watchdog regulations governing how the money can be spent.
Students at several British universities have donated to Zayer through pro-Palestinian societies, some of which are also suspected of being sympathetic to Iran.
Among the most recent donations was more than £1,800 given by students at Royal Holloway, University of London (RHUL), in Egham, through its Friends of Palestine Student Society.
In a social media announcement, RHUL Friends of Palestine boasted of making £5,476 of contributions to various Palestinian, Lebanese, Syrian and Sudanese organisations during the spring term, including £1,820 to Zayer for its work in Lebanon.
The post added: “Zayer Charity Organisation is a charitable organisation founded in Lebanon in 2016, focused on supporting social and humanitarian initiatives, with particular attention to assisting low income families and spreading values of cooperation.”
The post added: “Thank you for making this possible. Every pound you gave reached someone who needed it. Jazakumullahu khayran and Thank you to everyone. May God accept it from you and from us.”
However, there are concerns that the cash could be used to support projects in Lebanon approved or controlled by the Hezbollah militia group, which controls large areas of the country and is proscribed by the UK Government.

The Telegraph can reveal that RHUL Friends of Palestine – which operates independently of Zayer – has been suspended by Royal Holloway Students Union pending the outcome of an investigation into its fundraising activities.
Zayer Charity Organisation and its UK branch Zayir UK were set up by Hussein Harake, 29, a former Heathrow worker, and his wife, Zeinab Basma, 28, an NHS-trained doctor. Together, both charities have raised more than £300,000 for aid projects among poor and displaced refugee families in Lebanon through the Islamic fundraising platform MySadaqa.
The charity – whose UK subsidiary Zayir UK has been refused official recognition by the Charity Commission – operates in Lebanon with the apparent blessing of Hezbollah, the terrorist group backed by Iran.
Fundraising and promotional activity on behalf of both Zayer and its UK subsidiary has taken place at university campuses around the country, including at Imperial College London and the London School of Economics.

Hertfordshire AbSoc advertised an event at which “100 per cent of donations” would go to Zayir UK and a group of four students collecting under the banner of InterABSoc raised £1,445 through a sponsored hike in the Brecon Beacons for an emergency aid appeal for the organisation.
Saqib Bhatti, the shadow education minister, said: “While it’s important that students can engage in protest and fundraising alongside their studies, universities must do more to make sure that student activism does not lead to the glorifying or funding of terrorism. Royal Holloway should immediately investigate these claims.”
A spokesman for the legal campaign group UK Lawyers for Israel said: “Universities and students’ unions must urgently establish what money or supplies were transferred, what checks were undertaken and why an unregistered organisation was permitted to benefit from university fundraising networks.”
Dr Basma, 28, who studied medicine at University College London and trained in the NHS, was until recently understood to be Zayir UK’s president.
She said the organisation had submitted an application to register with the Charity Commission in November, but was still awaiting approval – although the commission confirmed that this had been turned down.
The Charity Commission said: “To be considered a charity in law, an organisation must demonstrate how it meets one of the recognised charitable purposes and is established for the public benefit. The commission robustly scrutinises applications to register as a charity, and Zayir UK was unsuccessful in its recent application.
“Supporting registered charities is a good way for people to be assured that their donations will be regulated and accounted for in line with charity law.”
Dr Basma has denied any affiliation with Hezbollah and said that Zayir UK had dissociated itself from its parent body, the Zayer Charity Association. She also said that Zayir UK sends welfare supplies rather than cash to Lebanon.

Hezbollah fighter called ‘martyred hero’​

Mr Harake, who worked at a British Airways lounge at Heathrow, was stripped of his security clearance following reports in May that he had praised the heroism of “martyred” Hezbollah fighters.
He referred to one of the militants as a “martyred hero” and thanked another, the nephew of one of Hezbollah’s most senior commanders, after his death last August. He also reportedly posted images at the graveside of a third militant, who had worked as a volunteer at an affiliate of Mr Harake’s organisation in Lebanon.
Posts on the Facebook page of Zayer Charity Association include what appeared to be praise of Hassan Nasrallah, the Hezbollah leader, 64, following his assassination last September.
In February this year, another post urged supporters to attend Nasrallah’s funeral as “an expression of loyalty and social solidarity”. Both messages have since been deleted.

At the time of Zayir UK’s launch in Britain in 2021, Mr Harake gave an interview to Al Manar, a satellite television station run by Hezbollah, in which he reportedly said: “The charity, Zayer, is split into different departments … we have a department for children, which is organised with the social work [department] of Hezbollah.”
Mr Harake’s sister, Zainab Harake, who helps to run the Zayer Charity Organisation in Beirut, is reported to have given an interview to an Arabic publication in which she said: “Within Lebanon, we co-operate with all the religious institutions, civil society organisations and social work entities within Hezbollah.” She was also photographed alongside a woman wearing a Hezbollah scarf at a charity event.
Mark Gardner, the chief executive of the Community Security Trust, said in May: “This organisation has operated on British campuses raising substantial sums, but it did not even hide its connections with Hezbollah. The police, government, relevant regulators and those with legal responsibility must act swiftly.”

‘This isn’t any normal charity’​

Concerns have been expressed across party lines over the activities of pro-Iranian and pro-Hezbollah groups on campus.
David Taylor, the Labour MP for Hemel Hempstead, told The Telegraph: “Student fundraising should always be encouraged, but this isn’t any normal charity.
“This is an unregistered organisation which reportedly works alongside the terrorist organisation Hezbollah. That is not acceptable.
“Royal Holloway must investigate these allegations and ensure those responsible are suitably reprimanded.”
Richard Tice, the Reform MP, added: “It should be blindingly obvious that organisations with reported links to proscribed terror groups should have no place on university campuses. Time and again though, British universities seem to think that the law doesn’t apply to them.
“The failure of some university leaders to get a grip isn’t just fuelling anti-Semitism and extremism, it is also undermining the UK’s whole education sector in the eyes of the world.”
A spokesman for Royal Holloway said: “RHSU is currently investigating concerns relating to fundraising activity by one of its societies [RHUL Friends of Palestine] and has taken precautionary measures while that investigation is under way. The university has been updated on those measures and remains in regular contact with RHSU and relevant external bodies as appropriate.
“We take matters of this nature seriously and are considering issues that fall within our own remit in accordance with university procedures and statutory responsibilities.”

‘No affiliation with any proscribed groups’​

In response to a series of questions from The Telegraph, an unidentified spokesman for Zayir UK stated: “Ms Basma is not a trustee for Zayir UK. She was previously a volunteer, however, she is not currently involved due to her personal and professional commitments.
“Zayir UK has not been collecting money (from students or others) and does not affiliate with any proscribed groups.”
The group also denied it had been involved in the organisation of any Hezbollah-backed welfare relief projects in Lebanon.
The spokesman said: “The events you identify were organised without co-ordination with or approval from Zayir.”
They added: “The current trustees were not involved with the previous [Charity Commission] application and are not in a position to comment.”
In an earlier statement, Mr Harake and his wife said Zayir UK had no political affiliations and operates within UK law to provide aid for Lebanese communities facing hardship.
They added: “More recently, Zayir has provided food and medicine to Lebanese victims of Zionist ethnic cleansing. We remain steadfast in supporting victims of genocide, and our vital humanitarian work will not be deterred by malicious actors serving a hostile foreign regime.
“This failed smear attempt against us is part of a broader campaign of penetration by the state of Israel within Britain which, not content with its genocidal war against Lebanese people in their homeland, seeks to harass and defame them abroad.”
RHUL Friends of Palestine did not respond to requests for comment.

Our new solicitor general has an unfortunate habit of being buddy-buddy with Hamas
Andy Burnham’s new Solicitor General has been accused of having shown “sympathy for Hamas” after pictures resurfaced of him meeting terrorists in Jerusalem.
Andy Slaughter, who will advise the Government on proscription decisions, was in Jerusalem from Nov 5 to Nov 9, 2010 alongside Jeremy Corbyn on a £927 fact-finding trip to the Palestinian territories, sponsored by Friends of Al-Aqsa and Middle East Monitor (Memo).
A now-deleted report, published by Memo, reveals that the pair met “with both sides of the Palestinian political spectrum, including members and representatives of Fatah and Hamas”.
Photographs published in the Memo dossier include an image of Mr Slaughter and Mr Corbyn posed next to Mohammed Totah, Ahmed Attoun and Khaled Abu-Arafeh, who have known Hamas associations.

Nick Timothy, the shadow justice secretary, described Mr Slaughter’s appointment as a “disgrace” and accused him of having shown “sympathy for Hamas”.
Mr Totah and Mr Attoun were elected to the Palestinian Legislative Council after running on a Hamas-affiliated Change and Reform ticket, while Abu-Arafeh was appointed Palestinian minister of Jerusalem affairs by the Hamas-led government.
Mr Attoun was arrested by the Israeli Defence Forces in Jerusalem and exiled to the West Bank in 2011.
Mr Totah and Mr Abu-Arafeh were both arrested by Israeli police in 2012 after barricading themselves in an International Committee of the Red Cross compound in East Jerusalem for 18 months to evade capture.
Ismail Patel, founder of Friends of Al Aqsa, the organisation which bankrolled the trip, was filmed during a pro-Palestine rally in 2009 saying: “Hamas is no terrorist organisation.
“The reason they hate Hamas is because they refuse to be subjugated, to be occupied by the Israeli state and we salute Hamas for standing up to Israel.”

Supporting Hamas carries a maximum jail term of 14 years​

Hamas has a distinct political and militant arm. The military wing of the group was proscribed by Britain in 2001. The organisation was banned in its entirety in November 2021.
Under the terrorism act, supporting Hamas carries a maximum of 14 years in prison.
Mr Slaughter also claimed to have separately met Faraj al-Ghoul, the Hamas justice minister, and Dr Ahmed Yousef, Hamas’s deputy foreign minister, during an undeclared trip to Gaza that took place between March 5-8, 2010 with the Britain-Palestine All Party Group.
Dr Yousef was once the right-hand man to Ismail Haniyeh, the political leader of Hamas, between 2006 and 2014.
Mr al-Ghoul was a senior Hamas leader who was assassinated by Israel in 2025, following the Oct 7 terror attacks.
After the trip, which took place in March 2010, Mr Slaughter argued that governments should negotiate more readily with Hamas.
Writing in the Guardian in an article dated March 13, 2010 he said: “I returned last week from a visit to Gaza as part of a parliamentary delegation from the Britain-Palestine All-Party Group (...)
“One way to break the deadlock is to negotiate without preconditions with those who have a mandate and a willingness to achieve progress.
“From my experience now on several visits to the region in the past three years, this includes Hamas.”
Despite entries for other trips to Gaza and the West Bank in his Register of Members’ Interests, there is no entry for a trip to the region in early 2010.
Parliamentary rules at the time required benefits more than £660 to be declared.
In 2018 Mr Slaughter was one of four MPs who voted against the Labour Party adopting the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s definition of anti-Semitism. Critics of the widely accepted guidance argue it restricts criticism of the Israeli government.
And in his new role Mr Slaughter will be one of two law officers who will have a say in prosecutions related to Hamas.

Nick Timothy, , the shadow justice secretary, MP has
Reacting to the appointment, Mr Timothy added: “It is an absolute disgrace that Andy Slaughter has been appointed Solicitor General.
“Slaughter has shown sympathy for Hamas, and it beggars belief that Labour have handed him the final say on proscription decisions and command of the Government legal department.
“Andy Slaughter should have no place in Government.”
A spokesman for the Attorney General’s office said: “Appointments to the Government are carefully considered by the Prime Minister.
“The Solicitor General will carry out his duties, including any role in oversight of prosecutorial decisions, with the political impartiality and adherence to the rule of law that the role demands.
“The Solicitor General has been consistent in condemning the actions of Hamas and has long supported a two-state solution in which a viable Palestinian state and Israel can live in peace, side by side.”
Mr Slaughter has been contacted for comment.
 
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What has the BBC ever done for me?

The BBC is working with Deadbeat to make the story about the illegal food delivery driver into a feature film with the working title of Papers.
Producers on the upcoming film have also attended workshops with a taxpayer-funded “narrative-change” organisation, which seeks to use pop culture to shift negative public opinion on immigration.

Oh.
 
Made some good comedies in the previous millennium. Oh, and they did play a role in the making of HBO's Rome.
The funny thing is the Romesh version from that screenshot is actually a fortieth year anniversary remake of a far superior advert with John Cleese asking "What has the BBC ever given us?".

Go and watch it on YouTube. I think the case for a public broadcaster was easier to make back in 1986.
 
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Are you sending your “solidarity” to the victims or the Islamist who perpetrated this attack ?

Will these libtards ever just fucking see the core problem? I watched some of the interviews by people attending the parade and they still blame the far-right and AfD :stress:
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Happy Sunday everyone, if you don't have a Sunday roast then you're a nigger.
 
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