Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

Have you forgotten how he randomly threatens you in UT and how passive-aggressive he is?
sure he's passive-aggressive but he's not like "heh...I could kill you in one hit...scrub." It doesn't come off like he's a try hard
at worst you could say the moment where he goes "you're gonna have a bad time" and disappears is a bit much, but I don't have much problem with it since he is trying to threaten you into not killing his brother, seems fair.
You don't have to try and defend them as chuddy subversive masterpieces. It just makes (you) look gayer for it.
alright listen mate you are being a big fat nigger right now. No one here right now is saying Toby is a secret chud (thobeit others have suggested that in the past). We're not even saying Deltarune lacks faggotry, because evidently it does
We're just saying Kris might not even be intended to be nonbinary, in-fact Toby refusing to specify he's non-binary despite doing that for Seth and the fandom being deranged about it probably means he isn't actually non-binary and it's just some stupid "interpretation' thing
 
We're just saying Kris might not even be intended to be nonbinary, in-fact Toby refusing to specify he's non-binary despite doing that for Seth and the fandom being deranged about it probably means he isn't actually non-binary and it's just some stupid "interpretation' thing
And that's coping. You're reaching levels of cognitive dissonance that rivals troons here.

See, the simple thing to observe is TOBY FOX SPECIFICALLY WENT OUT OF HIS WAY TO WRITE THEY THEM BULLSHIT ONTO KRIS AND FRISK. Thats the whole thing. It can be for whatever reason, but it implies that Kris isn't a male or female (even tho he is masculine and possibly a self insert from Toby). It's you who's the odd ones out. At face value Kris IS nonbinary by default. He has no gendered pronouns, and the creator is a fat who believes in this shit. It's like looking at a book, and marking out pages that don't fit your worldview because it'll look bad for you.

Until I see Kris referred to as a man, he is non-binary in canon. And that's the way it is.
 
Gooseworx outright stating that the "ideal" version of Jax would just troon out without fixing his actual personality except becoming a literal cuckold is some of the best comedy to come out of that show.
 
It can be for whatever reason
Oh can it now?



Look, ultimately it wouldn't actually matter if Toby did stop beating around the bush and confirm it one way or another, given how obviously dudeish Kris is. I'll call him a he no matter what. All I want is for Toby to stop acting like an autist on this one hyperspecific thing for no reason. A big ask, I know, but still.

Frisk was young and enough of a blank slate that really there's no indication of what tf they are (even though we know that Toby thought of Frisk as a boy), but Kris is way too obvious. I knew dudes like Kris.
 
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All I want is for Toby to stop acting like an autist on this one hyperspecific thing for no reason. A big ask, I know, but still.
Just admit Toby is a faggot and you'll find peace.

"Hey Kris is a he!" "No it's a they"
It matters not. None of it has ever been utilized in the games. They mean nothing. Thinking too hard about shit like this gives his dog shit writing unnecessary power. And that's the autistic trap you've fallen for.
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It'll all be settled when chapter 7 releases and it's tagged as hmofa
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toby is engaged in a secret plot to maximize TTD. He has lured all the troons into his fandom, but he will shortly break up the wholesomeorino lesbian couple, show Kris is a man, rape Noelle, have the rape route be the only good route, AND have the happy ending end with Kris getting married and having kids.
 
toby is engaged in a secret plot to maximize TTD. He has lured all the troons into his fandom, but he will shortly break up the wholesomeorino lesbian couple, show Kris is a man, rape Noelle, have the rape route be the only good route, AND have the happy ending end with Kris getting married and having kids.
And the tooth fairy exists.


Reddit response to that Toby Fox tweet
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Napstablook is obviously a guy.
 
Until I see Kris referred to as a man, he is non-binary in canon. And that's the way it is.
kris is refereed as dude multiple times in the game, and there is also this dialogue i don't remember being in the game? burgerpants?
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or is "dude" some kind of neutral pronoun thingy, too?
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uh oh what's that? susie calling kris a man? so much for an adrogynous self-insert
 
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