Nolan's The Odyssey - Potentially could be epic or an epic flop.

ellen page and lupita are in the movie for 3-6 minutes. sure the gook and some black guy are trojans but most people arent going to care if the story is good enough. suspension of belief for entertainment.
That's 3-6 minutes too many in my opinion. I just think shitty tokenism casting is a valid criticism, and I'm tired of people like RLM pretending it's not, all while acting like people are unreasonable for feeling that way.
 
That's 3-6 minutes too many in my opinion. I just think shitty tokenism casting is a valid criticism, and I'm tired of people like RLM pretending it's not, all while acting like people are unreasonable for feeling that way.
You are in fact a faggot if you care about this so much that it fills you with rage, as we’ve seen from the chudcattle the past 6 months. Embarrassing troon-coded behavior
 
Mike and Jay do the classic handwave argument towards the DEI casting by pretending it doesn't matter because The Odyssey is a fake story so who cares what they look like.

It's almost like they're hack frauds or something.
Which is hilarious because they live in Somali-infested Milwaukee and you know for a fact they are up to their ears in "diversity" in a town that they grew up in that used to be one of the whitest places in America.
 
You are in fact a faggot if you care about this so much that it fills you with rage, as we’ve seen from the chudcattle the past 6 months. Embarrassing troon-coded behavior
Sure thing bud, just roll over and be ok with the fact that those mentally ill freaks are fist fucked into every prominent cultural event and clap your hands for the stunning and brave. It's nothing but another of the near infinite indicators of cultural decay in the West. It's anything but normal and you are delusional for thinking otberwise.
 
Forbidden Planet was one of my favorite films as a kid, I rented the VHS every time my family went to the rental store, I remember it came in this giant box for some reason. Anyway MGM had the faith to let it stand on its own and it did and latter when I figured out it was a retelling of The Tempest(Thanks Wishbone) that was the first play from Shakespeare I read and now I love them both. So it really puzzles me why Nolan didn't just do a modern day retelling and call it something else.
Forbidden Planet may have been The Tempest predominantly, but they stole a central concept from Julius Caesar: Beware the Ids that march!
 
Sure thing bud, just roll over and be ok with the fact that those mentally ill freaks are fist fucked into every prominent cultural event and clap your hands for the stunning and brave. It's nothing but another of the near infinite indicators of cultural decay in the West. It's anything but normal and you are delusional for thinking otberwise.
Cope, seethe, and dilate
 
Forbidden Planet may have been The Tempest predominantly, but they stole a central concept from Julius Caesar: Beware the Ids that march!

That's Peabody and Sherman level!

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That's 3-6 minutes too many in my opinion. I just think shitty tokenism casting is a valid criticism, and I'm tired of people like RLM pretending it's not, all while acting like people are unreasonable for feeling that way.
It's Oscar baiting. Last year the Academy introduced new guidelines mandating diversity quotas in order for movies to be eligible in most categories. Having a pooner and a nog for 6 minutes ensures Nolan's "Odyssey" can rack up useless prizes without jarring the audience.
 
I’m just not going to watch this film if this is the direction Hollywood goes in, regardless of the otherwise quality of the film, and this is coming from someone who generally likes Nolan’s films.

It’s easy to ignore concerns and criticism when you get someone who has boatloads of influence in Hollywood doing something like this, generating lots of box office results and saying “look, diversity works” despite many counterexamples present. It’s clear Hollywood doesn’t give a shit.

Nolan has the “do whatever the fuck you want” card in Hollywood and instead of using it to create new IPs and changing the landscape of entertainment, he just ends up falling into the same pitfalls as the general Hollywood industry when it comes to diversity and originality sooner or later. He could have made an epic space opera or epic full of black people and/or troons and at this point, it would rack in a ton of money because his name is attached to it. He could have done any other epic. But he doesn’t. Even someone like him decides to take a story already known, adds diversity and butchers culture in it, and can make his production budget back and people will say “here’s your diversity” when really nothing of substance came up from it. And it seems to just be tokenization by the way it’s being talked about here. That’s partly why I’m trying to write my own stories; it’s taking a while due to other commitments I have, but it’s holding steady.

But I can’t support stuff like this, regardless of whether it breaks even or not or whatever. We wouldn’t be talking about this if these were original characters. It’s already bad that we keep remaking the same stories. I’m just tired, boss.

And this film ranking higher than something like The Dark Knight or Memento on Rotten Tomatoes is bullshit.
 
Was looking forward to the review from my favorite backseat duo.


Interestingly The Nostalgia critic hated it. Mainly because of the trojan tic Tok editing as he described it, the shitty acting, and washed up colors.

Snob Liked it, mostly because he shut off his brain and enjoyed the throw back sensation to the grand epic where they just cast everyone as random people doing sincere dramatic shit. Like John Wayne as a roman centurion.


I appreciated the sincerity and honest back and forth between the two. Im pretty sure they represent the normy opinion
 
I want to watch this movie if only for the spectacle, but every time I consider watching it I’m reminded of the cast and I lose interest. It’s not just Ellen Paige or the black lady, but spider man, the punisher, zendaya, a rapper that basically murdered people via crowd crush, and of course Matt Damon with all his stupid opinions and previous roles of playing the smartest/coolest guy in the room.

I can’t do it. These people are insufferable.
 
I’m just not going to watch this film if this is the direction Hollywood goes in, regardless of the otherwise quality of the film, and this is coming from someone who generally likes Nolan’s films.

It’s easy to ignore concerns and criticism when you get someone who has boatloads of influence in Hollywood doing something like this, generating lots of box office results and saying “look, diversity works” despite many counterexamples present. It’s clear Hollywood doesn’t give a shit.

Nolan has the “do whatever the fuck you want” card in Hollywood and instead of using it to create new IPs and changing the landscape of entertainment, he just ends up falling into the same pitfalls as the general Hollywood industry when it comes to diversity and originality sooner or later. He could have made an epic space opera or epic full of black people and/or troons and at this point, it would rack in a ton of money because his name is attached to it. He could have done any other epic. But he doesn’t. Even someone like him decides to take a story already known, adds diversity and butchers culture in it, and can make his production budget back and people will say “here’s your diversity” when really nothing of substance came up from it. And it seems to just be tokenization by the way it’s being talked about here. That’s partly why I’m trying to write my own stories; it’s taking a while due to other commitments I have, but it’s holding steady.

But I can’t support stuff like this, regardless of whether it breaks even or not or whatever. We wouldn’t be talking about this if these were original characters. It’s already bad that we keep remaking the same stories. I’m just tired, boss.

And this film ranking higher than something like The Dark Knight or Memento on Rotten Tomatoes is bullshit.

This film and hollywood output in general has lit a fire under me. I have never had any confidence in my skills as a writer but now I am determined to write out my original short adventure stories.

The worst I can do can't be any worse than this.
 
I’m just not going to watch this film if this is the direction Hollywood goes in, regardless of the otherwise quality of the film, and this is coming from someone who generally likes Nolan’s films.

It’s easy to ignore concerns and criticism when you get someone who has boatloads of influence in Hollywood doing something like this, generating lots of box office results and saying “look, diversity works” despite many counterexamples present. It’s clear Hollywood doesn’t give a shit.

Nolan has the “do whatever the fuck you want” card in Hollywood and instead of using it to create new IPs and changing the landscape of entertainment, he just ends up falling into the same pitfalls as the general Hollywood industry when it comes to diversity and originality sooner or later. He could have made an epic space opera or epic full of black people and/or troons and at this point, it would rack in a ton of money because his name is attached to it. He could have done any other epic. But he doesn’t. Even someone like him decides to take a story already known, adds diversity and butchers culture in it, and can make his production budget back and people will say “here’s your diversity” when really nothing of substance came up from it. And it seems to just be tokenization by the way it’s being talked about here. That’s partly why I’m trying to write my own stories; it’s taking a while due to other commitments I have, but it’s holding steady.

But I can’t support stuff like this, regardless of whether it breaks even or not or whatever. We wouldn’t be talking about this if these were original characters. It’s already bad that we keep remaking the same stories. I’m just tired, boss.

And this film ranking higher than something like The Dark Knight or Memento on Rotten Tomatoes is bullshit.
As I've said before, Nolan's Zulu would be considered a masterpiece, make a billion dollars easily, be a mostly sub-Saharan African cast, and be subversive because British Man Bad.

 
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