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I have one, but I'm also paranoid. What if I leave it unlocked on a table and it gets stolen, what if someone snoops, what if I give my phone to someone so they can check something and they see the KF bookmark, etc. It's not a risk I'm willing to take.
I would say you are quite paranoid, but you will do what is best for your situation. Tor is simple enough to use and I like the site, so I will continue to browse Kiwi Farms as long as it's up and I'm not banned.
Eh, learned to live with it. I could get deported for just saying infinite third world retards is a bad idea. Just is what it is. No right to free speech here. People get their doors kicked in a 6am for the most milquetoast tweet.
Germany? The United Kingdom? does Australia do that now?
I don't like how I can't immediately tell what country you're from off this sentence. Means it's spreading.
Jack in, hacker! It's time to learn how to access The Dark Web.
Step 1: Download and install Brave browser.
Step 2: Look up your favorite Indian tech support youtube channel and listen to the man bippity-bop-speak and wobble his head side to side to explain to you that you should click "yes" on the notification.
Now we're getting serious, hacker. Hit Shift+Alt+N to open a new private window with TOR.
But what's the TOR adress??
It's time to get really serious.
We'll google it.
Damn it! The trannies must have fed cyber hormones to Gemini in order to bimbofiy it and counter-hack us by feeding false information.
We'll use the hacker service known as duckduckgo.com
Hit the "search assist" button, hacker!
Actually did not expect this. Last time it just gave the address to me.
It won't give me the address in Brave, but it will in Firefox? Is this the work of nefarious tranny hackers superjacking the Brave mainframe and backtracing the duckduckgo bot until it is fully dilated?
We're in. Log in and type your password, hacker.
You completed your first assignment, hacker. Reply to this post and call me a nigger if you're communicating through the deep web. Nigger will be our secret hackphrase passcode. Your next assignment is to help someone else onto TOR.
I have never browsed the farms on mobile before. Is TOR easily doable there too?
Brother do you realize how few people even know what KF is at all to begin with? You would have to not only leave it unlocked and let it get stolen, but then the thief would also have to give a shit what you have on there and not just trying to sell it. On top of that, they'd have to be a terminally online weirdo like the rest of us AND be terminally online in this specific sphere of influence. You basically would need a bluesky user to steal it.
it enforces the popular opinion and silences dissent
nope I got banned for no reason
try appealing it I'm glad you got banned though you deserved it probably
truthbomb
@Null Just ban me at this point; I hate your website, and your fanboy users have fun losing lawsuits, scamming your supporters, and shutting down your website.
It'll be a dark, miserable day if the farms ever finally meets it's end. Hopefully Josh pulls through, as every moment this site remain alive and active, is another moment troons and pedos thrash about in seething agony.
I don't think they actually can afford to keep it up 24/7, I think they're pretty clearly relying on us to give up. The current status quo of TOR + pockets of stable uptime on the clearnet might be our best bet for the foreseeable future.
Brother do you realize how few people even know what KF is at all to begin with? You would have to not only leave it unlocked and let it get stolen, but then the thief would also have to give a shit what you have on there and not just trying to sell it. On top of that, they'd have to be a terminally online weirdo like the rest of us AND be terminally online in this specific sphere of influence. You basically would need a bluesky user to steal it.
Strangely, on X, there are quite a few screenshots reposted that are obviously from here and references back to the Farms. Usually, they leave the user name out, but found a few times where they specifically cited a user here.
The active userbase here is small, but obviously, guests read it and repost.
It comes with the usual slog of phoneposting but there's not really any complications. At least with brave & orbot. Not sure about other browsers and brave has a habit of shoving crypto stuff down your throat unless you go through like ten prompts to hide it temporarily.
Make sure Tor is enabled:
Lastly select - New private window for Tor.
It will automatically connect, use the Farms onion address:
kiwifarmsaaf4t2h7gc3dfc5ojhmqruw2nit3uejrpiagrxeuxiyxcyd.onion
Well, I guess I get that. But if you are as paranoid as you are saying, I would think you would be exceedingly careful about not leaving unlocked devices laying around. So really your thoughts are kinda moot on it, unless you think someone is going to take your device and then crack your passwords to get into it as well. Btw, there's literally nothing illegal or even wrong with using KF or TOR at all. So I'm not sure what you think would happen if somebody saw it anyway. Not to dismiss your fears offhand, but like...you can't be both paranoid AND willing to: leave unlocked device around, leave sites you don't want people knowing about on the bookmarks or open, or giving your unlocked phone to people to check stuff.
I'm not paranoid at all and nobody on this Earth knows how to get into my phone, including my wife and my kids. Even if they did manage to get into it, there's nothing there because there aren't any bookmarks, shady apps, or anything and the history etc gets auto deleted along with cookies every day. If you are really paranoid there are some very simple methods to just wipe everything whenever you close your phone basically. Just do those and don't let people use your unlocked stuff. And btw, obviously have it set to lock the screen after x minutes of non-use. Actually tbh I think most of this stuff is already on devices by default.
I don't know, I think the "damage" has already been done and even if you got rid of it, that wouldn't prevent them from lying about it to your face. Would the website be more "defensible" for normies if we didn't have that? Maybe, but we are already known as "the worst website on the Internet that has killed ten thousand trannies and is full of skinhead Neo-Nazis", I doubt it would make a scratch on the reputation the site already has.
Some people will hate you no matter what you do, but that doesn't mean you should take an all-or-nothing mentality when it comes to the survivability and optics of your website.
I also feel like your line of thinking is what turns websites into corporate hellscapes and why the Internet is like five websites now.
Today is phonebooking, tomorrow it will be something else that will seem tempting to get rid of for the sake of "looking good". The website is legal and that should be enough for it to exist.
I also think Kiwifarms has a right to exist and collect donations to run, and to have a site culture that isn't sanitized and corporate, but that existence still depends on outside parties and whether or not they look favorably on Kiwifarms. When the USA sanctioned Cuba, none of their "communist principles" or chest pounding could save them from the fact that they needed to play nice with Western pro-democracy powers if they wanted their country to survive. Sometimes circumstances are a bitch.
I'm surprised how many people don't know about this stuff, until a few years ago the "mild" stuff involving invertebrates was somewhat widepread on (fetish) porn sites and the hardcore kitten stomping etc would crop up every so often on edgy content/gore sites.
I remember chatting with a guy who claimed to be producing worm and cockroach stomping vids and making something like 30 grand every month off it back when 8chan still existed. Dunno if he graduated to outright animal torture porn.
i always assumed there was some type of market for doing fucked up things to animals seeing as people will pay to watch women get fucked by dogs or donkeys. as well as the obvious human torture porn. the thing that shocked me was just how popular it is. i knew there were fucked up people out there anybody who pays attention can see that much but the sheer number of people involved in animal crush/zoosadist networks is something that astonishes me to this day.
these people are doing this out in the open too. they are not in some obscure dark web place nobody really knows about. these fuckers are using clearnet websites that are fully protected by cloudflare to distribute videos of animal abuse and outright murder all so actual human abominations can goon to it and spread it around themselves as well.
in an ideal world one you think the feds would love websites like ours because not only are people documenting this behavior they are finding these people and exposing the networks. but instead we are censored and purged for the crime of trying to stop these people and that is something that needs to be made clear for the rest of time no matter what happens to this place.
It's so easy to use these days that it runs on my phone just like my browser without a noticable difference. I think a majority of normies that would need this site to exercise their speech just don't know that we're not in those days anymore where you launch tor and then go make some lunch while the first page you entered loads. Would some kind of resourcing put into onboarding users, especially the more casual ones who can better spread the word, help buy you a little more time and less personal worry about clearnet time?
i was around during the #dropkiwifarms days and when the site was down and tor was all one could use to access it i was very much one of those people who was unsure about tor. i had no idea what it was or how to use it. but i eventually downloaded the tor browser and tried it out only to be shocked at how well it worked. obviously i still prefer clearnet but tor is genuinely so so easy to use and access.
i believe we used to have an entire thread about how to use tor but i am unsure if it still gets any use or not. it might be worth it to inform people because regardless of what becomes of this place i think tor is going to end up being one of the only ways to access any website that does not bend the knee sooner or later.
Yeah no they covered their arse by saying they have the discretion to terminate access to their service at any time within their user agreement. Furthermore it elaborates;
We also reserve the right to modify or discontinue the Service at any time (including, without limitation, by limiting or discontinuing certain features of the Service) without notice to you. We will have no liability whatsoever on account of any change to the Service or any suspension or termination of your access to or use of the Service.
Josh would have to prove that they are knowingly harboring those types of sites if this was the angle he's hypothetically going for, but I can see a few ways any claims could be knocked back by a shyster. Not a viable and, as you mentioned, quite an expensive and arduous route.
Yeah no they covered their arse by saying they have the discretion to terminate access to their service at any time within their user agreement. Furthermore it elaborates;
Josh would have to prove that they are knowingly harboring those types of sites if this was the angle he's hypothetically going for, but I can see a few ways any claims could be knocked back by a shyster. Not a viable and, as you mentioned, quite an expensive and arduous route.
We have evidence that they've been informed of these sites. Support tickets, correspondences with technicians, etc. The legal strategy isn't the problem. It's the fleet of lawyers they have on their payroll.
Well, I guess I get that. But if you are as paranoid as you are saying, I would think you would be exceedingly careful about not leaving unlocked devices laying around. So really your thoughts are kinda moot on it, unless you think someone is going to take your device and then crack your passwords to get into it as well. Btw, there's literally nothing illegal or even wrong with using KF or TOR at all. So I'm not sure what you think would happen if somebody saw it anyway. Not to dismiss your fears offhand, but like...you can't be both paranoid AND willing to: leave unlocked device around, leave sites you don't want people knowing about on the bookmarks or open, or giving your unlocked phone to people to check stuff.
I'm not paranoid at all and nobody on this Earth knows how to get into my phone, including my wife and my kids. Even if they did manage to get into it, there's nothing there because there aren't any bookmarks, shady apps, or anything and the history etc gets auto deleted along with cookies every day. If you are really paranoid there are some very simple methods to just wipe everything whenever you close your phone basically. Just do those and don't let people use your unlocked stuff. And btw, obviously have it set to lock the screen after x minutes of non-use. Actually tbh I think most of this stuff is already on devices by default.
I don't wanna sound too sanguine, but FWIW I have barely noticed the attacks. Despite @Null tearing his hair out over the situation, from my end-user standpoint the outages have seemed routine and intermittent.
The most inconvenience I'm experiencing is waiting maybe 30 minutes to post something.
I understand that's not how it is under the hood, Mein Feeder, but just some user feedback that'll hopefully make you feel better.
Surprisingly, it's as easy as using Facebook. You just search for Tor in the app store, pick the program you like (I use Tor Browser), and that's literally it. You know have a separate browser app that only handles Tor.
in an ideal world one you think the feds would love websites like ours because not only are people documenting this behavior they are finding these people and exposing the networks.
I mean that's pretty easy to explain. They hate it because it incentivises vigilantism, which they really hate. They want things done their own way and they don't want anyone else potentially messing up their cases.
