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Nolan's The Odyssey - Potentially could be epic or an epic flop.
The sheer irony of Nolan adapting a story where hubris is such a central theme only to let his own ego get to his head this badly. The creation of this movie is a greek tragedy in and of itself.
Boyfriend is dragging me to go see this slop this weekend. Big Nolan fanboy that is coping about how the movie somehow "isn't woke." He can't comprehend why I think the movie looks bad (not even counting casting choices) and keeps making excuses. I could not be less enthused for a movie. The sacrifices you make for your loved ones...
Unfortunately I just don't see this bombing like people are saying. The ballwashing for Nolan is way too strong (antiwoke Nolan simps still going to see it out of denial and hero worship) and this has turned into some kind of culture war event. Showings have been sold out for months now. My entire FYP right now is 50% people dogging it and 50% leftoids suddenly acting like Rotten Tomatoes critics are god and celebrating that the "far right smear campaign" didn't work. Apparently if you are on the "wrong side of history" if you aren't interested in the movie.
"Romeo + Juliet" is one of the only examples I can think of where the approach works. Luhrmann leans in to the unavoidable silliness of staging Shakespeare in a contemporary setting and makes it fun.
Oh, that's disappointing to hear. There's something I really enjoy about Polyphemus announcing to Odysseus how he doesn't care about the gods or their laws. He chooses to treat the laws of civilization as unnecessary. If he'd just been hospitable to Odysseus during their encounter, he probably wouldn't have ended up awfully maimed. The cyclops isn't an animal; he's closer to a brutish and antisocial human being.
Oh, come on! So, what, Odysseus takes a decade to get home just because of bad luck? If there aren't any gods, then where the heck did the cyclopes come from?
Oh, that's disappointing to hear. There's something I really enjoy about Polyphemus announcing to Odysseus how he doesn't care about the gods or their laws. He chooses to treat the laws of civilization as unnecessary. If he'd just been hospitable to Odysseus during their encounter, he probably wouldn't have ended up awfully maimed. The cyclops isn't an animal; he's closer to a brutish and antisocial human being.
Yeah it's really weird because there is a part where the Cyclops starts mumbling to itself AFTER Odysseus and company have stabbed its eye out and Eurylochus points that out and says "It speaks!" and suggests that maybe they can reason with it but Odysseus points out that it's kinda late for that. It's so odd, it would've honestly been better if Nolan had just left it as a regular mute monster but to briefly introduce that aspect of the character and then just drop it is so weird. And of course there is no "Nobody" scene because as far as the movie shows the Cyclops lives by itself on the island.
And while I'm at it, Eurylochus has also been changed (besides, you know, being played by a jeet), he's supposed to be kind of a dickhead who constantly doubts Odysseus but the movie makes him into the voice of reason a lot of the time when Odysseus is being a cretin.
Oh, come on! So, what, Odysseus takes a decade to get home just because of bad luck? If there aren't any gods, then where the heck did the cyclopes come from?
No idea, I think we're meant to assume it's just a regular monster rather than a rational creature born of a god. This "no gods" shtick really harms the movie because on one hand Nolan wants to keep things "grounded" but on the other hand it's the Odyssey, how fucking grounded can you possibly make it?
As far as "bad luck" goes, movie has Odysseus and his crew take a different path from Troy where instead of going via the regular route west along with the other Greeks, they go east as a shortcut. Except that east of Troy is the Anatolian heartland not the Aegean sea. Nolan tried to give a justification for Odysseus getting lost and ended up making himself look geographically illiterate.
During the part where Odysseus speaks to the dead, Achilles shows up in original story lamenting how war sucks and there is no glory in being dead and it is better to be alive with your loved ones. In the movie this role is given to Sinon.
Watch out for the white knights like Paul Tassi defending this movie from the evil "anti-woke chuds".
Especially that Antifa faggot Dave Rivera sperging about it in joy like a soyjak & smugjak watching his favorite YASS SLAY KWEEN with her five big black boyfriends from his cuck chair. He's also a alcoholic retard to self-dox himself, right @DyslexicMoogle?
Yeah it's really weird because there is a part where the Cyclops starts mumbling to itself AFTER Odysseus and company have stabbed its eye out and Eurylochus points that out and says "It speaks!" and suggests that maybe they can reason with it but Odysseus points out that it's kinda late for that.
If they can't talk with him, how do they bamboozle him into drinking the wine? Now that I'm thinking about it, so much of the cyclops sequence in the poem is about the cyclops's lack of respect for social norms, his desire to grab up all he can while he can, dismissing all notions of hospitality. Without that, it's just Odysseus defeating a monster by stabbing it with a pointy stick.
Did anyone else here play "Wishbone and the Amazing Odyssey" when they were a kid, or was it just me?
And while I'm at it, Eurylochus has also been changed, he's supposed to be kind of a dickhead who constantly doubts Odysseus but the movie makes him into the voice of reason a lot of the time when Odysseus is being a cretin.
Now, to be fair, Eurylochus was the only one smart enough not to get turned into a pig. Sometimes being the voice of reason means you have to be a little bit of a jerk too.
During the part where Odysseus speaks to the dead, Achilles shows up in original story lamenting how war sucks and there is no glory in being dead and it is better to be alive with your loved ones. In the movie this role is given to Sinon.
Better the people who need the job who won't do shit than the strangers who might ruin his experience because the worst that will happen to them is get kicked out while Tom gets to experience the current movie going experience.
If they can't talk with him, how do they bamboozle him into drinking the wine? Now that I'm thinking about it, so much of the cyclops sequence in the poem is about the cyclops's lack of respect for social norms, his desire to grab up all he can while he can, dismissing all notions of hospitality. Without that, it's just Odysseus defeating a monster by stabbing it with a pointy stick.
Did anyone else here play "Wishbone and the Amazing Odyssey" when they were a kid, or was it just me?
There is none of that. The Cyclops is literally just a big ugly monster that they stab in the eye when it goes to sleep and then Odysseus shoots it with an arrow to piss it off.
Also I’m not sure if it was meant to be deliberate but the Cyclops in the film appears to have poor vision. There are several instances where he is looking right at our heroes and just does nothing. And poor hearing too apparently because he doesn’t react to Greeks loudly screaming while he’s chomping on their mates.
God the entire scene is so stupid that I could rant about it all day.
Now, to be fair, Eurylochus was the only one smart enough not to get turned into a pig. Sometimes being the voice of reason means you have to be a little bit of a jerk too.
If they can't talk with him, how do they bamboozle him into drinking the wine? Now that I'm thinking about it, so much of the cyclops sequence in the poem is about the cyclops's lack of respect for social norms, his desire to grab up all he can while he can, dismissing all notions of hospitality. Without that, it's just Odysseus defeating a monster by stabbing it with a pointy stick.
Did anyone else here play "Wishbone and the Amazing Odyssey" when they were a kid, or was it just me?
I still don't understand what was. They put the movies' names together, and now you have to watch both of them or something? (I did not watch either one)
It was viral marketing IIRC from the Barbie marketing team. Both films came out the same week IIRC, but rather than play the sexism card they came up with the idea of making people see BOTH films by pitching it as a surreal double feature that could benefit theaters as a whole
How else can you sniff your own farts? More than half of the high scores are just people who went in for the clout - just to say that they went to see it with a picture near the poster, or of the poster, or a picture during the movie... But not a single one of them will ever tell you exactly what it's about.
All the tracking I'm seeing is showing this is going to have a great opening weekend, probably 100 - 110 mil. Time will tell if it will have legs good enough to break even (around 750 mil if budget/marketing rumors are to be believed). Depends on how the general audience reacts and how good word of mouth is.
