Nolan's The Odyssey - Potentially could be epic or an epic flop.

It's a pity the discourse about this movie will be drowned by the culture war kerfuffle for a long time, because everything in this movie is wrong. It will be delightful when the dust settles and people who care can freely talk about it in four or five years. I understand why people are so focused on the woke elements since Nolan has gone beyond drinking the Kool-Aid: he has gobbled the pitcher, eaten the plastic ice cubes, and snorted the fruity powder. He has already cast the Kool-Aid Man as Benjamin Franklin for his next movie as reparations for any damage his mansion's walls could have caused when he fierily but mostly peacefully burst through them. But even ignoring all that, there's so much to talk about here. If I didn't know better, I'd say that this is a social experiment to see how much peer pressure affects today's cultural landscape. I believe the movie ends with a rap song in the credits (sadly absent from the camrip, so I can't confirm it), but I wouldn't be very shocked if it ended with a loud, gangsta-infused version of Springtime for Hitler.
It's already been discussed to death, but nothing works here; I firmly believe this is Nolan at his worst, and that's saying something. The casting, even being as race- and gender-agnostic as one could reasonably afford to be, is just plain wrong, with a lethargic Matt Damon channeling the enthusiasm and energy of Cameron Mitchell in his last years and Tom Holland acting as a child lost in a mall who desperately needs to use the bathroom but is too self-conscious to ask where it is. There are great actors there, and some of them even try, but most, if not all, are square pegs in round holes.

I don't think I need to talk about the action scenes or the editing because the videos posted here speak for themselves. When I finished watching it, I felt like I had been subjected to a 2.5-hour session of TikTok doomscrolling against my will. I won't comment on audio and music because the camrip's quality was atrocious, but I have a nagging feeling that the real deal is almost as bad. The fact that a Hollywood blockbuster about an 8-year journey has the same number of sets as an average Friends episode is eyebrow-raising, to put it politely.
But what drove me nuts was the writing. It's no secret that Nolan can't write to save his life, but I don't understand what the fuck he was thinking when he penned this. There are hundreds of little changes that serve no purpose and make the story worse, and the big changes are even more confusing to me. Yes, yes, I know, subversion, white man bad, women good, yadda yadda, but again, ignoring that, I don't see what his goal was. It feels like Nolan is behaving as a rabid chihuahua, pointlessly snapping at random targets just as they appear in his field of vision, and forgetting about them the moment they vanish from his sight. What's the point of taking such a nihilistic approach to a tale which already is so fatalistic? Why apply an almost fedora-atheism approach to the Hellenistic gods and mythology, and then replace it with modern therapy mumbo jumbo? Why everything? I could go on for hours.

The thing I have always hated the most about Nolan's work (and something I suspect is part of the reason for his undeserved success and also the reason his more grounded movies are less controversial) is his ability to suck the magic and wonder out of any setting or genre and replace it with the most mundane but completely preposterous logic. A twisted and inverted version of magic realism: banal absurdism, and this movie is his best example of it.
 
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The fact that a Hollywood blockbuster about an 8-year journey has the same number of sets as an average Friends episode is eyebrow-raising, to put it politely.
That's what struck me watching those clips posted to 4chan. Felt like I was watching a 1990s made-for-TV movie. And not the Raimi Hercules TV movies, those were better made
 
Literally the first minute of the movie is Ellen Page getting easily killed while running like a pansy.

It's literally the meme(s), but without the AI. :story:

Anyway, I'm sure this movie will win a ton of awards, and somehow the left will claim it as a victory. I tried to watch, but got way too bored before getting to the third act.

All woke shit about this movie aside, the movie is entirely lifeless and boring. When Nolan makes something I like, I really like it ... But when he makes something I hate, then it's a painful experience. This movie is definitely in the latter for me. WOOF.

Because it's Nolan and he's one of the few bankable directors at the box office these days, I can see this movie making a lot of money in its first weekend and then the second and third weekend drops are going to be massive because the movie is terrible.
It will get nominated for a bunch of shit and then get a token ‘Best Set Design’ or some shit. The Academy always does this to try to pull more normie viewers into their satanic ritual award dinner.
 
This is entirely incompatible with my mildly obsessive approach to movies.


Fuck, really? I thought from the cover it was some fun adventure story about a boy and his tiger. I was saving it for when I was depressed. Well strike that off the list then. I'll have to go to my fallback Bridge to Terebithia. Kids movie with fairies and giants and such. Should be fun.

Yeah, Life of Pi isn't it for depression.

If you really want to get over depression try watching Grave of the Fireflies.
 
The Rotten Tomatoes scores are hilarious.

98% Fresh critics 11% rotten audience.

They're not even fucking trying to hide the astrotutfing and fake scores.
 
It's like a confused elderly man swinging a weedwhacker around. (It also looks like Damon forgot which way to spin for a second and had to correct.) Pattison acting terrified is only making it look worse.
The notion was wrong to start with. One, your actor is getting dizzy doing it multiple times. Two, if the character has to cast whirling slash, it's the weapon that should be whirling and not the guy. The guy has to shift his body around so he doesn't give himself tennis elbow. Three, the way to make him an unstoppable murder machine is to film him like Jason Vorhees and have him cut down anyone stupid enough to fight him.


Sargon does make a good point about Matt Damon. Being able to say to Idiot Page "You are the greatest soldier I've ever seen" with a straight face is great acting. Granted, it took 20 takes before he stopped cracking up, but he did it once.
 
More 20 year old movies better than modern ones in terms of effects and cinematography. The technology does not help Nolan, it makes it more embarrassing.
Brother, watching Jason and the Argonauts from 60+ years ago would be more enjoyable... At least those dudes tried despite the huge technology handicap, they didn't inject niggers into it for hollyjew's replacement agenda, and they nailed the OST. The miniatures and practical effects were classically choice too (Ray Harryhausen). If someone has managed to retain his imagination and hasn't devolved into a soulless goy bug person, the Titans scene is still great. Do not fuck with Talos.
 
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Lupita N'yongo IS Screamin' Jay Hawkins in...The Odyssey
 
It's a pity the discourse about this movie will be drowned by the culture war kerfuffle for a long time, because everything in this movie is wrong.
After being browbeaten by bigots for 20 years how "ethnic roles should be played by actors of that ethnicity!" it is perfectly acceptable to turn around and use their arguments against them. This isn't "culture war", this is the world balancing itself. The war was when they inserted themselves and their minority friends in every shitty project they could find, and destroying multiple industries by doing so.

There is literally no point discussing the merits of the movie without the cultural context of how it came to be.
If you got the mentally ill tranny and a cast of DEI misfits stuffed into every role they could possibly find, what do you think are the chance the ENTIRE CAST AND PRODUCTION TEAM was staffed in the exact same way? It is practically a 100% guarantee that the low quality of the movie is because a majority of positions were staffed based on DEI quotas, from writing room, cutting, audio mix to post edits and effects. (EDIT: The costumes were literally the best the DEI costume designer could come up with and shit out)

My only hope is that Greece has a pissed of billionaire who will invest the money to pay for a proper 3 part movie with properly cast actors for their roles, with a script based on an older classic translation. Because this pile of shit of a movie should not be what an entire generation will think of as "THE ODYSSEY".
 
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Brother, watching Jason and the Argonauts from 60+ years ago would be more enjoyable... At least those dudes tried despite the huge technology handicap, they didn't inject niggers into it for hollyjew's replacement agenda, and they nailed the OST. The miniatures and practical effects were classically choice too (Ray Harryhausen). If someone has managed to retain his imagination and hasn't devolved into a soulless goy bug person, the Titans scene is still great. Do not fuck with Talos.
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The best part is the spartoi, like the skeletons being all choppy was probably not intentional but it’s perfect like they’re puppeted by magic, clash of the titans was also great with Medusa please you guys have to see those!
I would add No Way Home
Yeah but let’s be honest you throw spiderslop at normies they’ll suck it up, like the bugmen they are… how coincidental.
 
The best part is the spartoi, like the skeletons being all choppy was probably not intentional but it’s perfect like they’re puppeted by magic, clash of the titans was also great with Medusa please you guys have to see those!

Yeah but let’s be honest you throw spiderslop at normies they’ll suck it up, like the bugmen they are… how coincidental.

To be fair it is the best of the Holland movies and I will be honest, after everything being closed down for more than a year seeing it in a packed theater was one of my favorite theater going experiences.

Is it a favorite of mine at home? Not really, but it is one of my favorite memories of going to the movies, so in my book it did its job.

I had to see it on Monday because it was sold out all weekend.
 
Ironically, she looks quite ugly in Euphoria, exactly like the memes that show she looks so bad. While everybody around her wears over the top make up and clothes, she's the plain one.

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Compare her looks in the show with how she gets primped for events.
Where were all the Pro-Palestine people in this Euphoria shit? How come they haven't canceled and firebombed the Euphoria film studio since it is literally adapted from an Israeli TV series?
 
Brother, watching Jason and the Argonauts from 60+ years ago would be more enjoyable... At least those dudes tried despite the huge technology handicap, they didn't inject niggers into it for hollyjew's replacement agenda, and they nailed the OST. The miniatures and practical effects were classically choice too (Ray Harryhausen). If someone has managed to retain his imagination and hasn't devolved into a soulless goy bug person, the Titans scene is still great. Do not fuck with Talos.
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there is something to say about talent and creativity. When you have little resources, you have to be creative. Peterson talked about how he's treated people who said couldn't solve their issues because they lacked money, but he said that's what should activate your imagination. There are good CGI artists, but abundance of resources to make movies has made people lazy and unimaginative.
 
Brother, watching Jason and the Argonauts from 60+ years ago would be more enjoyable... At least those dudes tried despite the huge technology handicap, they didn't inject niggers into it for hollyjew's replacement agenda, and they nailed the OST. The miniatures and practical effects were classically choice too (Ray Harryhausen). If someone has managed to retain his imagination and hasn't devolved into a soulless goy bug person, the Titans scene is still great. Do not fuck with Talos.
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I genuinely think this movie has better special effects than this shit. I mean, just look at this


Found some funny shit on /tv/ and /wsg/, maybe this film can have some value if it serves as meme fodder.



 
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