Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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Yeah but it's the creator of the show and she is portraying herself as the villain who tormented the few representatives of actual emotional sincerity the show has had. That should have been a warning sign.
That actually makes me wonder if she realized she portrayed herself as a villain with that character. Cause after that apperance we havent seen or heard any mention of Deerie, not even as official merch I think. Frankly, Im sad we didnt get like a pin or mug with Deeries smug face and the writing below saying "#1 Boss bitch" or something. Hey why not, we got merch with that shark bastard that nobody liked.
 
That actually makes me wonder if she realized she portrayed herself as a villain with that character. Cause after that apperance we havent seen or heard any mention of Deerie, not even as official merch I think. Frankly, Im sad we didnt get like a pin or mug with Deeries smug face and the writing below saying "#1 Boss bitch" or something. Hey why not, we got merch with that shark bastard that nobody liked.
I'd consider buying a coffee mug with Deerie on it. Fuck that shark though.
 
"Our happy sugar life" seems like a reference to the pedophilic yuri anime, "Happy Sugar Life", about a yandere female who wants to fuck a loli. I bet his "girlfriend" was a little girl.
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Edit: He directly mentions the Happy Sugar Life anime in the IG story picture and says it was "him and her". I somehow missed that. So it's confirmed he was a fan of that lolipedo anime.
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I feel violated now that I know what HSL.

Btw, his X account is fascinating. Found this here as well. 1000085114.jpg

"Going to the toilet together" Love the concerned looks on Moxx and Millie's faces. Epic self-own. Also-little to no posts in Polish . Apparently he was terminally online/roaming international fandoms.
 
Hey, lets blame everyone but not the thundercunt nor Amazon.
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Edit: Also, I cannot prove this, but I feel like Viv is using this as an opportunity to crack down on the Spindlehorse staff who do their own merch and sell it on Etsy sites, 'cause God knows the official shit is getting cheaper and worse, while the fan merch has more creativity and work put into it. She probably had this idea for a while, but didnt do it because of a possible backclash, however since her simps have an axe to grind with Gryphs, its like a perfect chance. She gets to curbstomp his new video, try and guilt trip the animator whom her simps would attack along with Gryphs and then now she can crackdown on fan merch and Gryphs will be blamed for this.
 
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Did Ayylmao actually say that? Aged like milk really fast.
Trying to find the Youtube short I saw and either Ayylmao deleted said short or it was made by another YouTuber that does similar content to him. It's still funny to think back on whatever the case may be.
Hey, lets blame everyone but not the thundercunt nor Amazon.
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To be fair, BlackGryph0n is at least partially to blame. This video was most likely the catalyst in causing Amazon to get stricter with their ip. Cause Amazon is technically in their rights, and they could have stopped the people employed in making this show from selling fan merchandise way longer before this.

And while this rule only involves people currently working on Spindlehorse, this could be the beginning of a slippery slope of fan merch and/or content being removed in general if it is deemed too close in looking like the source material. And Viv can't really do much about this because Amazon owns a lot of this property now.

It's just a pretty shitty situation in general.
 
To be fair, BlackGryph0n is at least partially to blame. This video was most likely the catalyst in causing Amazon to get stricter with their ip. Cause Amazon is technically in their rights, and they could have stopped the people employed in making this show from selling fan merchandise way longer before this
I will say, its kinda weird this video is the catalyst. Since we had vids before, like the one with Charlie or the one with Stolas. You'd think Amazon would jump much earlier. Though, I guess since this video is closer with the animation and having a person who worked on the show itself.
And while this rule only involves people currently working on Spindlehorse, this could be the beginning of a slippery slope of fan merch and/or content being removed in general if it is deemed too close in looking like the source material. And Viv can't really do much about this because Amazon owns a lot of this property now
Honestly, knowing how much Viv had a whole thing when it comes to ships, part of me feels she was never big fan of some fan creations if it was closer to her stuff or seemed better. Again, could be wrong, since doesnt change the whole situation fucking up everyone.
 
I will say, its kinda weird this video is the catalyst. Since we had vids before, like the one with Charlie or the one with Stolas. You'd think Amazon would jump much earlier. Though, I guess since this video is closer with the animation and having a person who worked on the show itself.
I think it really had to do with a mix of the BlackGryph0n shit and the fact that animation was very similar to the Amazon show's. There was a Lucifer cameo in there too and it wasn't the pilot looking version either. If someone saw this video in the wild with no context on who it was made by, I could definitely see them thinking this is part of the universe for the actual show. Especially since the title of said video says "Offical Music Video".

I don't know, maybe if they had put "fan song" in the video title this whole thing wouldn't have even happened. But it is what it is, and now all we can do is wait and see what thr future will hold.
Honestly, knowing how much Viv had a whole thing when it comes to ships, part of me feels she was never big fan of some fan creations if it was closer to her stuff or seemed better. Again, could be wrong, since doesnt change the whole situation fucking up everyone.
I think she likes fan creations that follow her own particular mindset. And as like you said, she can't be overshadowed. It's why she hates the Charlie x Alastor ship so much because the fan shippers chose her birthday (completely on accident) to be Charlastor day and she got pissy that she was seeing more Charlie x Alastor fanart on her feed than birthday wishes.

Which I do understand is probably annoying. But at the same time...maybe this is just me, but if any of my creations got so popular that people were drawing fanart of it, I wouldn't care if they forgot about my birthday. Hell, I doubt I would care that much if they forgot me entirely. I would just be happy to have people enjoy something I made.
 
I think it really had to do with a mix of the BlackGryph0n shit and the fact that animation was very similar to the Amazon show's. There was a Lucifer cameo in there too and it wasn't the pilot looking version either. If someone saw this video in the wild with no context on who it was made by, I could definitely see them thinking this is part of the universe for the actual show. Especially since the title of said video says "Offical Music Video".

I don't know, maybe if they had put "fan song" in the video title this whole thing wouldn't have even happened. But it is what it is, and now all we can do is wait and see what thr future will hold
Honestly, after some sleeping and thinking. I think this is more "straw that broke the camels" back situation and Gryph is basically a good scapegoat for it. Like, I believe before Viv was already in hot water over someone from Spindlehorse selling art prints of ship material with Val and Angel dust. An Vivs responses and behavior didnt help fix the issue, so she was probably looking how to put the kaibash on this. An then you had the musci video happen, thus letting Amazon step in while Viv can put her foot down on her staff selling fan merch.
 
Angel Dust's and Valentino's whole...situation is very interesting to say the least? On one side, it's very terrible and is pretty much Angel's entire character of being a victim. On the other, it's "haha, toxic yaoi is so funny and hawt uwu". And the people working on the show are trying to do both of these things? And it's not even like some sort of middle-ground they're attempting to do; they think it's funny and hot because their mindset is still stuck in the early internet edginess but they know that this is not the correct mindset to have in current year, so they make poor attempts of treating said subject seriously.

And these attempts come off as ungenuine and fake because they are. It's why you get Viv making a cum joke on her social media post about Poison. Or Val's and Angel's VAs making a jokey rape cover on "Baby It's Cold Outside". Their true feelings come out about it and that is what makes people so pissed off.
 

I love how Vivian and cos own characters managed to write a somewhat better story than the actual writers of this show and for all we know it never happened.


Also proves the prior kiwis point about the staff won't stop gooning to their own material despite claiming to hate NSFW fan material.


Well that glaring issue aside seeing moxie and stollas like that? As casual friends I mean, It's almost enough to make me forget ones a spinless wimp who has a knocked up wife but won't care if she gets it baby vacuumed outta her, the others a flaming homo and equally spineless unless he's pushed to the edge.

Eh Mediocre as usual but nothing to complain too much about losing 10 minutes of my life over.
 
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I love how Vivian and cos own characters managed to write a somewhat better story than the actual writers of this show and for all we know it never happened.


Also proves the prior kiwis point about the staff won't stop gooning to their own material despite claiming to hate NSFW fan material.


Well that glaring issue aside seeing moxie and stollas like that? As casual friends I mean, It's almost enough to make me forget ones a spinless wimp who has a knocked up wife but won't care if she gets it baby vacuumed outta her, the others a flaming homo and equally spineless unless he's pushed to the edge.

Eh Mediocre as usual but nothing to complain too much about losing 10 minutes of my life over.
Boy, was that beginning bad. I don't know why we have to have so much borderline gay porn. I was so tempted to just stop watching it when that writer's groin was shoved in my face. I'm not even homophobic, but God! Is it tiring to see constantly. I think I would still be annoyed if it was a straight couple. I'm just completely done with the hypersexual shit in these shows.

ANYWAY, besides that, I thought the rest of the short was okay. I liked that the drawing style was different depending on who was telling the story and I do somewhat enjoy Stolas' and Moxxie's dynamic. They get along with each other quite well and while I doubt we'll get to see much of that in the actual show, it was nice to see it in at least one short.

What I do find funny is how Stolas seems to have more chemistry with everyone besides Blitzø. And is also more tolerable as a person to be around. Which isn't a good thing when the show is trying to make these two endgame.
 
I don't know why we have to have so much borderline gay porn
Because vivzie are what few women aside her working on this are sexually repressed but at the same time secretly want perfect 10 men in their lives despite also claiming "all men are rapists." They can't have their cake and eat too so they settle for adding in copious amounts of the aforementioned borderline gay porn.



Frankly I'm at the indifference stage of my fatigue so I just don't care...well that and having it on as background noise instead of actively watching it helps somewhat.
 
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