Team Fortress 2 - Hat Fortress 2: America's #1 War-themed Hat Simulator

[Gap Hag]

neglect is malicious

It is, but much harder to prove to people, it's easy to say someone beat their children with pipes, it's another to say "they never talk to me, they only bring me out when they feel like making money, all they give me is hand me downs as gifts" etc, it's all fucking second layer shit where's just enough obscurity where people can give them the benefit of the doubt and go "hey look, they still care about their game!" (ignoring all the game franchises they do FUCKING NOTHING FOR)

 

[Average Russian Spy]

Oh boy, an update! I wonder what Valve di-

Oh, it's just the summer update...

 

[The Early 2000s]

Played every map. My thoughts:
-Dryfield: trash. Too open, a good sniper can shutdown everything in 2 areas. The flanks are either cramped tunnels or the aformentioned open space. Sub-par layout. plus, its KOTH that is 'built to focus on deathmatch' (taken straight from the workshop page). You will NEVER see this map played again after the summer season is over.
-Camp Saxton: halloween reskin without any gimmick to compensate. KOTH. Garbo.
-Shorelight: more KOTH shit. Too small. It's just viaduct between-point-and-spawn area with a shittier middle.
-Redwood: gimmick bait. Anyone who jerks off over it outs themselves as new. The ziplines are just mannpower grapples - jumping anywhere near them hooks you to them. First half is actually good, second half turns to shit where the verticality isn't done well. You might see this played past summer but will probably be one of those maps where half the server leaves and no one joins.
-Premuda: genuinely one of the worst maps I've ever played. Act 3 is seriously fucked; the first point's sightlines are egregious, second point is so absurd and convoluted it's insane - and bugged, since the sentries target through the windows and try to shoot through it but they can't. Hallways to dead ends, staircases to unnecessary chokes. Frame drops out the ass. Demolition-tier terrible, avoid like the fucking plague.
-Mojave: probably the best of the bunch. I can see this map being played somewhat regularly after summer, although it isn't fantastic or anything.

In short: too much KOTH, typical cramped confused layout that seems prevalent since 2020. Just terrible.

 

[jakkufurosuto]

i played premuda and its dustbowl but even worse n looks like shit, i wanna blow my brains out

 

[Just Another Rando]

Redwood is the single most insulting thing I have seen in this game in fucking years.

Spoiler: MATI

Of course it looks straight out of overwatch, why are they fighting in the middle of a tourist forest? A single fake tree radio tower. There is no other computers or facilities like ya know, every other map has to show its a base or intelligence operation. The even better part is the fucking gimmick, cause everything needs a gimmick now, a fucking rope the flings you around the map like the grappling hook. Fuck any movement balancing or skill lets swing around this forrest like a bunch of nigger monkeys because faggots on reddit will giggle like retards and updoot. I genuinely hope the nigger-retards who made that map get molested.

 

[Gap Hag]

You guys should stick to community servers, but even those are sadly dying.

 

[BlueCandles]

Its important to know that Valve is running off the sheer momentum of their glory days of the early 2010s. The tf2 updates... yearly 10/10 game releases... the ebic 75% off steam sales... the minigames... the gaben...

All these things are long gone, and its the memories of those good times and unblemished record that keeps people strung along for the ride as it slowly but surely decellerates. Only news you hear about Valve these days is controversy, frustration, and their CEO buying mansions and yachts. Boy, sure sounds like every other big corpo now huh? Valve knows this, im certain of it, and at some point in some shady boardroom meeting they decided that the best action would to never again do anything risky so that nothing could possibly slow the ride down any further than its already going.

 

[Big Lenny]

You will never be a real update. You have no new features, you have no balance changes, no quickplay. You are a homosexual content pack twisted by workshoppers into a crude mockery of a real TF2 update. All the "validation" you get is from fresh installs who never experienced the game in its glory days. Your fanbase is disgusted and ashamed of you.

 

[Jotch]

my favorite class is the spy

 

[thhrang]

Its important to know that Valve is running off the sheer momentum of their glory days of the early 2010s. The tf2 updates... yearly 10/10 game releases... the ebic 75% off steam sales... the minigames... the gaben...

All these things are long gone

They still have the Steam sales, let's be fair!

Only news you hear about Valve these days is controversy, frustration, and their CEO buying mansions and yachts. Boy, sure sounds like every other big corpo now huh?

Valve continues to maintain their image by doing things like being key figures in propagating Linux gaming for the last several years with their own entirely open operating system attempting to compete with Microslop's market dominance and heavy Proton development that, to a lot of people, single-handedly made gaming on Linux not a huge nightmare. I hear people praise them for this constantly. Things like that have actually continued buying them heavy amounts of goodwill amongst PC gamers continuously in this decade. I think if they ever actually somehow fuck up on that end, their neglect of their multiplayer IP may actually have a chance of finally catching up to them in the public conscious from a train of negative press or something. All it would take is one domino.

 

[Just Another Rando]

Redwood is the single most insulting thing I have seen in this game in fucking years.

Spoiler: MATI

Of course it looks straight out of overwatch, why are they fighting in the middle of a tourist forest? A single fake tree radio tower. There is no other computers or facilities like ya know, every other map has to show its a base or intelligence operation. The even better part is the fucking gimmick, cause everything needs a gimmick now, a fucking rope the flings you around the map like the grappling hook. Fuck any movement balancing or skill lets swing around this forrest like a bunch of nigger monkeys because faggots on reddit will giggle like retards and updoot. I genuinely hope the nigger-retards who made that map get molested.

Spoiler: More mati im sorry

I FUCKING CALLED IT HOW ABOUT YOU TAKE THE FUCKING ROPE AND HANG YOURSELF FROM IT

 

[Ambient Occlusion]

I genuinely want to know how Premuda got in. It is an eyesore and genuinely the ugliest map they've ever added to the game. Maybe even uglier than Whatville. That would be ok if it played well, but it's also a complete mess design wise. Just a total maze of hallways and cramped corridors. How the hell does something like this get in?

 

[Shoresy]

Premuda is ugly as fuck because it's a 2009 map.

 

[Tanner Glass]

I legit wonder if its actually malicous. It feels malicous. They are just  incapable of giving us  anything. I wonder if there is some directive in upper management blocking  any reinvestment into TF2.

They didn't even playtest the new maps. Matchmaker broken (again). More workshop slop.

They can't do the bare minimum.

The community is so starved for new content that they wouldn't even have to try to make people happy. A few minor weapon rebalances. A new munitions crate. New contracts for n00bs to unlock key weapons. A minor update to modernize the backpack UI.

Christ. Its not even difficult.

IIRC Valve has a system in place where their developers get to work on the things they want to work on - and only a very small handful of Valve employees want to work on keeping TF2's lights on in any capacity.

All we can hope for is that TF2's slow death is because the larger team is at work on TF3, but, considering how hard it was for them to conceptualize TF2 - I'm not holding my breath.

 

[WULULULULU]

I got so tired of TF2 I traded one poison for another via CS2, which despite Valve fumbling it's release and other still existing flaws has an actual future that's more than what TF2 will ever realistically get at this point. It's dire.

I traded my WoT account for CS2. I still feel regret this seeing that they will never abandon subtick and admit it is trash.

Redwood is the single most insulting thing I have seen in this game in fucking years.

Spoiler: MATI

Of course it looks straight out of overwatch, why are they fighting in the middle of a tourist forest? A single fake tree radio tower. There is no other computers or facilities like ya know, every other map has to show its a base or intelligence operation. The even better part is the fucking gimmick, cause everything needs a gimmick now, a fucking rope the flings you around the map like the grappling hook. Fuck any movement balancing or skill lets swing around this forrest like a bunch of nigger monkeys because faggots on reddit will giggle like retards and updoot. I genuinely hope the nigger-retards who made that map get molested.

Congratulations. Those who played CS2 knows what trash maps were added beforehand (Warden and Stronghold to boot). Bonus points for these maps being maps from other similar games (Redwood to OW, to Stronghold and Golden is to FAGLORANT).

 

[NeonFlux]

Reminder that back in 2013 TF2 was 6GB and back during Blue Moon update, it was around 20GB.

It's 30.57GB, That's 10.57 GB of bloat. The inclusion of annual summer updates is only going to speed up the road to 50GB.

This really needs a CS2 style upgrade/relaunch with like 20 maps.

 

[Big Lenny]

IIRC Valve has a system in place where their developers get to work on the things they want to work on - and only a very small handful of Valve employees want to work on keeping TF2's lights on in any capacity.

Hasn't worked like that in well over a decade but people keep parroting this line

 

[Patrick Bait-man]

Reminder that back in 2013 TF2 was 6GB and back during Blue Moon update, it was around 20GB.

It's 30.57GB, That's 10.57 GB of bloat. The inclusion of annual summer updates is only going to speed up the road to 50GB.

This really needs a CS2 style upgrade/relaunch with like 20 maps.

About 11 GB in March 2013, but still an insane size increase.


2013 feels like it was decades ago. Such a completely, entirely different world just 13 years ago; back when TF2 was "the most fun you can have online."

2:03

 

[Nameless One]

Another southern ninja banger (this is technically self promo since I'm him)

 

[Amerimutt]

I knew this game was heading down a bad path when Gun Mettle came out. Gun Mettle was the beginning of the "CS:GOification" of TF2 and then came Meet Your Match the next year which has been a total disaster that Valve still refuses to address for some reason.

They are one of the richest companies in the world. Would it really be too difficult for Gabe Newell to give the word and dedicate a team of developers to focus solely on TF2 for a few months?