/r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

I'd wager that we're getting something closer to the Moskowien treatment where they just removed all gameplay and had a leader get installed via RNG after five minutes of cosmetic anarchy. Even if you like this sort of thing was it really worth it spending six years just to maybe get a GUI minigame?
We don’t have access to TNOs internals so we don’t necessarily know what’s planned content wise, but from what’s leaked, we can expect something on par with ukraine. So solid mehs at best
 
Apologies for the double post but new TNO teaser, I believe this one happens after hitler suffers a heart attack since the russia nuke (unternehmen nachtigall) is mentioned as being unsuccessful
Hmmm, it's funny how this teaser about actual war criminals, Nazis, and Speidel has a much more neutral tone than the Yuppie writing material, even when they're discussing enslaving Slavs and working them to the death. Perhaps trusting the guy with a giant "AMERICA IS EATING OUR CHILDREN" banner (it's in his pisscord AND the dev build) to do your writing unsupervised was a bad idea.

Incidentally, the Gorky nuke makes way more sense than the Haiti Nukes- they're at least trying to hit a target with a lot of conventional value instead of random mudholes that may or may not have guerillas in them.
 
Perhaps trusting the guy with a giant "AMERICA IS EATING OUR CHILDREN" banner (it's in his pisscord AND the dev build) to do your writing unsupervised was a bad idea.
No I hope they double triple down on this, one of the funnies things about modern TNO is how the devs have so much self-hatred over being American they're accidentally turning the Third Reich into the (comparatively) good guys in what was originally meant to be a "deradicalization" tool. I want them to keep going until they do something extremely retarded like railroading America into collapse unless the wholesome reddit negress gets elected.
 
Played some Collapsing World as German Republic on got the secret V R I L path
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Look at that brainrotted focus descriptions and events. The amounts of non-sensical cores and buffs. Oh my God you can even discover Agartha.
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On the other hand:

1. He is brown.

2. He is pro-NATO (Browner)
Willhelm Apologist was right to say that International Liberalism and International Communism were third-world ideologies trying their hardest to appeal to brown people.
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Look at that brainrotted focus descriptions and events. The amounts of non-sensical cores and buffs. Oh my God you can even discover Agartha.
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Collapsing World seems to be going in a pretty great direction. Their updates and the amount of wacky shit added in the mod is really amazing. Hope they don't end up like TNO.
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Life is suffering, they are planning to put blatant tranny shit into my pony mod. :(
They put the tranny flag in their subreddit. What do you think is gonna happen?
 
Willhelm Apologist was right to say that International Liberalism and International Communism were third-world ideologies trying their hardest to appeal to brown people.

Collapsing World seems to be going in a pretty great direction. Their updates and the amount of wacky shit added in the mod is really amazing. Hope they don't end up like TNO.

They put the tranny flag in their subreddit. What do you think is gonna happen?
The only mods that I genuinely consider to be enjoyable are Kaiserredux and Red Flood, but Red Flood has a chronic lack of content.

With Kaisrredux whilst the content is much less polished and balanced, its fun and doesn't have an agenda. Kaiserreich will stare at the Austrian Empire and Italy with over a decade old content and decide to update China for the 6th time this year.

TNO has a bit of an identity crisis and poor leadership but I don't think its a bad mod by any means. Ignoring the drama they still have some of the best written event chains in the hoi4 community.
 
Notice how the only defense of TNO is how much of a not-game it is.
this is true, however there's nothing stopping a narrative based hoi4 mod from being good
Red flood is also almost entirely narratively focused and that doesn't stop it from being a good mod

I'm not defending TNO, however even during its hayday and before the troons took over the mod has always been narrative and event focused. The problem lies with the dev team removing paths and events and retconning lore based entirely on their agenda and not player feedback

HOI4 gameplay gets repetitive fast anyway. No mod can sustain itself without having a good amount of paths to try out with well written and curated events
 
I fear that OWB will put tranny shit in next sooner or later considering the type of people who work on the mod
i mean, the most recent patch just "Added framework for non binary unit leaders"
if read charitably, its for robot unit leaders
but theres been robots for fucking ever so i dont see why they'd add faggy shit for them now
 
I fear that OWB will put tranny shit in next sooner or later considering the type of people who work on the mod
There already are
BAG_ZADANOWITZ_DESC:0 "§YName§!: ~Steven~ Stephanie Zadanowitz\n§YMilitary Rank§!: Corporal\n§YMilitary Moniker§!: "Queen"\n§YProfile§!: Queen was once known as Steven Zadanowitz, but has since been to the autodoc many times and insists others call them Stephanie now. Despite the controversial nature of her gender identity, Queen is undoubtedly one of the most personally popular Officers on the expedition. She knows how to delegate and work with her people to the most efficient possible degree. Her operational success with her squad during the expedition has well earned her this promotion."
There's a pair of identical twins in the Montana Chapter but one of them is a pooner.
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MNC_warwick_economic_advisor_desc:0 "§GPersonnel Entry — Pentecoste, Warwick§! \n\n§YRank:§! §gKnight§! \n\nHeadstrong and cunning, Knight Warwick— having requested to be referred to by his first name as to avoid confusion with his twin...
MNC_johanna_cultural_advisor_desc:0 "§GPersonnel Entry — Pentecoste, Johanna§! \n\n§YRank:§! §gPaladin§! \n\nPaladin Johanna—having requested to be referred to by her first name as to avoid confusion with her twin...
One of the leaders of Pleasantdale is nonbinary, including unironic use of "Mx."
nf_plt.23.d:0 ...The young Chase heir only had time to say a greeting before Blanche cut in. “My dear young..'' she hesitated before continuing “person, allow me to extend condolences once more for your fathers passing...
nf_plt.29.t:0 "Mx Chases' Many Suitors"
nf_plt.26.d:0 ...it was clear as day to the young Mx. Chase that they had the worst of intentions...
 
There already are

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One of the leaders of Pleasantdale is nonbinary, including unironic use of "Mx."
You know I avoid the Fallout thread because being a Fallout fan in this day of age is absolutely depressing and I am reminded why, the franchise is fucked and the fanbase isn't much better. OWB is pretty fun to and a nice little break from regular HOI4, what a shame.
There other instances of shit like this? I never noticed.
 
/vst/ notes that they've been banning devs again. I always found it shady how they always have to point out that whoever was removed never lifted a finger to help in their entire life.
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this is true, however there's nothing stopping a narrative based hoi4 mod from being good
No one's disputing that. The problem is that they put too much focus on the narrative while ignoring core gameplay for starters but also that they shifted to mostly focus on dry, historical politics instead of the type of content people got into the mod for in the first place.
before the troons took over
Reminder that all the schizo shit like Tabby was made by the likes of Panzer and Pacifica and that all the major reworks are being helmed by neoliberal guys.
 
I designed six templates as Japan in TFR to see what's viable. There's no research that was completed yet so all of the stats are at its base value. SPAA, Engineer, Signal (should've been maitinence but I'm retarded), and Logistics are the support companies that I always included. Everything else was changed for something else.

IFV/SPG with SPG support:

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IFV/MLRS with MLRS support:

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APC/MLRS with APC support:

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APC/MLRS with MLRS support:

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APC/SPG with SPG support:

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APC/SPG with APC support:

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Your thoughts?
I see no reason to use the IFV divisions at least those templates, since you are going to use these divisions to defend, right?

The APCs ones are just better, cheaper, higher soft attack, good defense, better breakthrough. The only advantage the IFVs have is better hard attack and a bit more defense. You could bolster the APCs one with something cheap to bolster the hard attack and piercing but idk been awhile since I played TFR.

Or at least that's my opinion, I was comparing IFV/SPG with SPG support with APC/SPG with SPG support.
 
I see no reason to use the IFV divisions at least those templates, since you are going to use these divisions to defend, right?

The APCs ones are just better, cheaper, higher soft attack, good defense, better breakthrough. The only advantage the IFVs have is better hard attack and a bit more defense. You could bolster the APCs one with something cheap to bolster the hard attack and piercing but idk been awhile since I played TFR.

Or at least that's my opinion, I was comparing IFV/SPG with SPG support with APC/SPG with SPG support.
I used APC/SPG with SPG support for the hard attack since this mod says that enemies are going to place more focus on armored vehicles than normal AI.
 
Fascist Republicanism
Social Republic? Was that really what they’re looking for?
I see no reason to use the IFV divisions at least those templates, since you are going to use these divisions to defend, right?

The APCs ones are just better, cheaper, higher soft attack, good defense, better breakthrough. The only advantage the IFVs have is better hard attack and a bit more defense. You could bolster the APCs one with something cheap to bolster the hard attack and piercing but idk been awhile since I played TFR.

Or at least that's my opinion, I was comparing IFV/SPG with SPG support with APC/SPG with SPG support.
I won a game as Japan (Lost Taiwan War Path) with APC/SPG with SPG support even with half of my navy and Air Force nuked into existence. You’re right indeed. Now what about MLRS?
 
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