Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Parodius20XX]

Fun stuff, but wasn't the deadline Thursday the 18th?

It does say he filed it at like three in the morning on the 19th. Since Greer has submitted stuff hours after deadlines before I'd assume the court won't say anything about it and just accept it.

 

[obsdj]

It does say he filed it at like three in the morning on the 19th. Since Greer has submitted stuff hours after deadlines before I'd assume the court won't say anything about it and just accept it.

They probably will, but if the deadline was the 18th and he freely signed and dated and submitted as served on the 19th, it's fucking late and that should matter. Of course, we all know how meaningless words like "should" and "shall" etc. are in this case.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

My last post failed to upload the attachment, I guess?

ECF 482


ECF 483


Edit: the issue persits. Just use these links

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.utd.148809/gov.uscourts.utd.148809.482.0.pdf

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.utd.148809/gov.uscourts.utd.148809.483.0.pdf

 

[Parodius20XX]

ECF 483
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Greer must have run out of AI tokens for this one. Except this looks like the first one he filed according to the docket.







He just says "I oppose it and the Kiwifarms is le evil", zero legal arguments of any kind.

 

[obsdj]

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Oh noes, not multiple fronts!

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Following the rules and standards = formatting goof. Good-faith! Ah, it's good to be back.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

3 filings of pure, unfiltered plightsperging and lamenting the requirement for him to follow the same rules as everybody else, despite being a po' little pro se retard.

Of course it would be bizarre to hold him to the correct standards.

 

[DavidS877]

All the images that are unfit to post.
ECF 481 as Images.

Spoiler: 7 pages

ECF 482 as Images.

Spoiler: 7 more pages

ECF 483 as Images.

Spoiler: Thankfully only 3 pages

 

[Napoleon III]

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.utd.148809/gov.uscourts.utd.148809.483.0.pdf

Greer must have run out of AI tokens for this one. Except this looks like the first one he filed according to the docket.

That or he forgot to make this filing and is trying to get something filed even though it isn't very good so he doesn't miss the deadline.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.utd.148809/gov.uscourts.utd.148809.482.0.pdf

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This feels suspiciously like an argument that the DJF would make and it is weird that it is for both Cox and Hikma and is exactly the same? Would Greer know how the DJF is going to argue against the appeal? If so that is very retarded on Greer's part because doing so earns him nothing. The district court is not going to make any kind of ruling on something like this until it knows what the 10th is going to do.


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It's amazing to me how fucking unbelievably retarded Russel Greer is. If I were a pro-se litigant and something like an answer came up I'd look for example of something similar to what I want to file and try and file it. Besides the fact there are stupid amounts of legal resources and legal education material that is available due to the existence of the internet. It is no longer the 1980s. You have actual practicing lawyers explaining aspects of procedure. You have lectures from respected law schools online that you can go and watch/read. You have programs that will write your filing for you and do a halfway decent job.

And yet with all of this stuff that means its never easier to be a Pro-Se litigant, Russel Greer still is extremely retarded.

 

[Uncle Buck]

 

[Harvey Danger]

The two GreeePT filings whining about Cox/Hikma aren't terrible, as far as Greer filings go. They basically beg the court to keep the solitary win in place until DJF argues it in the 10th directly. Giving these 2 judges an excuse to do nothing may be the shrewdest legal maneuver Greer ever came up with.

But when he tries arguing against those rulings directly, it returns to desperate retardation. His entire argument is "KF is not an ISP". He doesn't engage with the rulings at all, he doesn't refute a single thing Hardin says. It's just flatly claiming fact mismatch, topped with crying that the 10th's ruling still applies.

I don't think Greer read the rulings at all. He probably just checked the Google AI summary to see wtf they were about.

He just says "I oppose it and the Kiwifarms is le evil", zero legal arguments of any kind.

He also says Hardin is trying to exploit "a supposed loophole in District Judge Barlow’s Order". I don't know how "supposed" Barlow thinks it is, when he stated it outright at the end of the Order.

Greer will be shocked to understand how loopholes get created in the law, and why they (generally) get respected.

 

[obsdj]

It's amazing to me how fucking unbelievably retarded Russel Greer is. If I were a pro-se litigant and something like an answer came up I'd look for example of something similar to what I want to file and try and file it. Besides the fact there are stupid amounts of legal resources and legal education material that is available due to the existence of the internet. It is no longer the 1980s. You have actual practicing lawyers explaining aspects of procedure. You have lectures from respected law schools online that you can go and watch/read. You have programs that will write your filing for you and do a halfway decent job.

It certainly is notable how he has no caselaw citations anymore. Has he grown that dependent on AI to draft his spittle-flecked slop such that he has regressed almost to the level of a death-row inmate submitted handwritten briefs?

His entire argument is "KF is not an ISP".

You just know he gave himself a serious boner with this line.

 

[DuckofDoom]

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You just know he gave himself a serious boner with this line.

I'll admit, that line got a chuckle out of me. I do wonder how many days it took him to come up with that zinger.

 

[flaxseed]

not gonna try and fuck with adding a screenshot attachment since the site is borked, so I'll just quote directly from ECF 481:

Spoiler: In his own words

"Plaintiff is not suing a neutral broadband provider for merely supplying internet access. Plaintiff is suing Joshua Moon and Lolcow, LLC for operating Kiwi Farms, a website whose purpose is not neutral internet access, but the targeting, ridicule, and prolonged harassment of people it labels “lolcows.” Kiwi Farms is not merely a general-purpose forum in the way Defendants describe it. It is a website built around selecting real people, creating threads about them, mocking them, and encouraging users to continue targeting them over long periods of time."

Is this not admitting that this case isn't about copyright?

 

[Harvey Danger]

Is this not admitting that this case isn't about copyright?

At the very least, it's admitting that the site is not explicitly designed to facilitate or encourage copyright infringement. It's not advertised as such either, and Greer doesn't claim it either here or in his Complaint's alleged facts.

That fails the Cox/Hikma criteria pretty hard on its own. Not that Greer would know that, since his analysis begins and ends at "KF is not neutral".

 

[Watching Rekieta]

ECF 482

Classic Russtarded logic in a single filing:
Part 1
"This court can't just reevaluate rulings based on SCOUTS decisions. There are Rules. This court isn't smart enough to read and apply SCOTUS precedent. The previous precedent set in the 10th circuit must be followed regardless of what SCOTUS said! The very narrow and specific process and rules must be followed because Kiwi Farms is mean!!!!"

Part 2
"The rules don't matter when it's very clear what I meant when I didn't follow the rules. This court should ignore 10th circuit rules and precedent. Everyone know what my intent is even if I didn't "admit/deny" every claim like the court requires. The court has latitude to ignore the rules I tell them to ignore."

 

[mindlessobserver]

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How on earth is Null supposed to take down something if it is not on his website? Why does he (and the court) constantly ignore the fact that GOOGLE is hosting the content, not Kiwi Farms! His copyrighted works are NOT on the forum, they are on GOOGLE DRIVE

Also, when did Null say "no one accidentally give Russel money". You can't just put quotation marks on something and say that they are the defendants words. That would be a good opportunity to either embed a screenshot, or at the very least a footer citation. But there is neither. Ugh, just reading this drivel is making MATI.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Kiwi Farms is not merely a general-purpose forum in the way Defendants describe it

Funnily enough, lolcows are a relatively small part of the website now (my best guesstimate would be 45% of all content here). I'd say this is a general-purpose forum to discuss online drama and internet weirdness in an open forum.

encouraging users to continue targeting them over long periods of time.

Citation required.

when did Null say "no one accidentally give Russel money".

He didn't. It was in his thread's OP (which was written by @Cryin RN, a user who has not logged on in over a year). Best as I can tell, that sentence (or anything close to it) hasn't been in the OP since about 2023.

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

Also, when did Null say "no one accidentally give Russel money". You can't just put quotation marks on something and say that they are the defendants words.

“I like to drool all over myself and pay hookers to lay down while I pretend I’m a giant slug and crawl on top of them.”

 

[Sluurp]

Does Hardin know about Shitlips' alpha move in Gree v. Aguilar?

Note: Plaintiff has training and experience as a paralegal and is therefore familiar with legal research, drafting, and procedure. Plaintiff is fully capable of representing himself and brings this action in good faith.

It would be a shame if Greer had to explain how he is a poor little retard in one case and a studly professional in another court.

He was given a chance to properly respond to the countersuit and threw it back in Hardin's face, of course, the shithead judge will probably give droolie a redo or three.

Edit: I am a newfag and couldn't figure out how to properly embed a screenshot.

 

[ConSluttant]

My last post failed to upload the attachment, I guess?

ECF 482
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ECF 483
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Edit: the issue persits. Just use these links

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.utd.148809/gov.uscourts.utd.148809.482.0.pdf

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.utd.148809/gov.uscourts.utd.148809.483.0.pdf

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"Moon is a public nuisance, not a public utility."

Tomato, tomahto?

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"Defendants cannot obtain judgment, merely by placing conclusions into numbered paragraphs and claiming Plaintiff did not use the correct format to deny them."

Actually, yes they can dumbfuck. lol