Shows were the Fanbase Overexaggerate the "Dark n Deep" Stuff - Kirby Le Lovecraft Monster n Shiiet

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Randy Prozac/Sentimental Corp/Britney Morgue/Nobody™/Goat Worship/Hospital Tapes/Parasite Dreams, etc.

Somewhere between 2014 and '16, the /x/ and Qanon crowd canonized him as a prophet with deep state ties and firsthand knowledge of clockwork elves, NWO technology hidden from the public since the middle of the previous century, MK Ultra/Project Blue Beam/moon landing conspiracy/transhumanist singularity, etc. - which he's happy to play into. In reality, he's a DIY visual artist, satirist, and punk rocker in his fifties, based out of Edmonton and doing an edgelord version of the Residents simply because he thinks it's funny. Prior to 2014, this was understood to be the case.

He's a talented shitposter. Him being anything more is purely in the imagination of people running from real life problems. Once per year, someone down one rabbit hole or another will register a KF account and message me to ask what I "know" about him.

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The current liminal horror fad tripping over itself straining to bait Redditors and spookypasta Youtuber grifters into advertising it is highly astroturfed, cynically marketed, and consistently derivative of something only slightly less mediocre and derivative. When I checked out a recent one hyperbolically recommended by a poster, I saw that the first "episode" launched alongside a Patreon and merch store. The product is such a lazy form of counterfeit entertainment that I'm surprised more Indians aren't involved.
 
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Gravekeeper's Vassal dijo:
A sweet spot for media success currently is making something just complex enough for a 95 IQ redditor to think it's profound.
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Even then, the people making threads for the product seem to never genuinely relate to it in the way they're presenting it: They seem to be going through the motions of appropriating the thing on the basis of expecting the 95 IQ redditors they feel superior to to think it profound; simultaneously thinking them profound for presenting it as evidence of their exquisite taste in slop media retrieved from the trough. This audience is always looking for a new bit of noise to point to and claim that it represents some underrated segment of the personality they think a menu of trending media can be a substitute for. That's why the Glendale Archives guy spews "He's literally me" bait in the middle of every episode; with the comments on each video being from those who have been successfully trained to let Youtube know when they get the sense that they're relating to something. It's a fucking pool of narcissus.
 
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Shartavius dijo:
Even then, the people making threads for the product seem to never genuinely relate to it in the way they're presenting it: They seem to be going through the motions of appropriating the thing on the basis of expecting the 95 IQ redditors they feel superior to to think it profound; simultaneously thinking them profound for presenting it as evidence of their exquisite taste in slop media retrieved from the trough. This audience is always looking for a new bit of noise to point to and claim that it represents some underrated segment of the personality they think a menu of trending media can be a substitute for. That's why the Glendale Archives guy spews "He's literally me" bait in the middle of every episode; with the comments on each video being from those who have been successfully trained to let Youtube know when they get the sense that they're relating to something. It's a fucking pool of narcissus.
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reminds me of all the pseudo-intellectuals trying to go read "literary" SF/F and endlessly giving out reddit tier takes on stuff like Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun
 
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I was once locked up in a looney bin for just over a week and most of the other people their were hood style criminals there to get time off of jail for getting psych treatment and one of the excercises we were forced to do was name a tv family we would want to be a part of and in this group of black gang members three listed the Cartwright family from Bonanza, four wished Andy Taylor from the Andy Griffith Show was their father, and another four wanted Bill Cosby's character from the Cosby show.

Ypu are right the modern generation is hurting for good father figures and when they are forced to stop anf think about it they know that is what they needed.

It makes me sad that there are so few good fathers they are turning to tv for them.
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It's the exact same as the surrogate internet daddy thing with Jordan Peterson, Sam Hyde etc.
You often see it IRL too, how guys who've had negligent or non existing fathers tend to look for a substitute elsewhere, usually through other male family members or just responsible older friends. In the absence of anyone else IRL who can fill the male mentor role, they'll turn to media figures instead, sometimes a tough Internet daddy like Hyde or Tate, other times maybe figures like Mr. Rogers (once upon a time..) or, in the absence of anything better, an Australian animated kids show.

Just need to bring back good father figures in media and start glorifying the family again. Even Homer Simpson was always written as a great father back in the day, and there were lessons for parents buried in their that you pick up on if you didn't get the chance to learn them at home from your own.

I don't know when exactly good fathers with happy familys disappeared from mainstream media, but they need to come back. There are a lot of people who need it.
 
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TheArtilleryman dijo:
just need to bring back good father figures in media and start glorifying the family again. Even Homer Simpson was always written as a great father back in the day
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Though I agree with the broader point you were making: Were you alive when the Simpsons premiered?

Homer was deliberately (and hilariously) written to be the worst depiction of a father in a sitcom, and was regarded as a comedic breath of fresh air that conservatives found offensive because it flew in the face of the "Father Knows Best" trope people expected from television dads.

His go-to parenting tactic is to strangle his son and sit in a bar. He's depicted as having no ideas for how to parent his go-getter, straight-As daughter because he can't relate to integrity or success. The heartwarming moments between him and his family always followed him doing things that, at the very least, should have resulted in divorce, a prison sentence, and/or his kids being placed into foster care (all of which were depicted happening in various episodes for laughs; because the writers thought it was funny to remind the audience that Homer is a caricature of a hyperbolically lousy sitcom husband and father who never suffers consequences for more than a few minutes).

The entire point of the Frank Grimes character/episode was to have reality intrude; and remind the audience that the only reason Homer is depicted as having the good fortune and realization of the American Dream that he does is because he doesn't exist in real life - And if he did, he would be regarded as a horrible person. That's the joke. Homer Simpson doesn't exist to be a role model - He exists to be a cartoon you can laugh at without hurting its feelings.

I don't doubt that people have taken life lessons from The Simpsons. But they really shouldn't have. Real life doesn't have third act redemptions for the sake of resetting characters and their relationships so that people can watch the episodes out of order.
 
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Shartavius dijo:
Though I agree with the broader point you were making: Were you alive when the Simpsons premiered?

Homer was deliberately (and hilariously) written to be the worst depiction of a father in a sitcom, and was regarded as a comedic breath of fresh air that conservatives found offensive because it flew in the face of the "Father Knows Best" trope people expected from television dads.

His go-to parenting tactic is to strangle his son and sit in a bar. He's depicted as having no ideas for how to parent his go-getter, straight-As daughter because he can't relate to integrity or success. The heartwarming moments between him and his family always followed him doing things that, at the very least, should have resulted in divorce, a prison sentence, and/or his kids being placed into foster care (all of which were depicted happening in various episodes for laughs; because the writers thought it was funny to remind the audience that Homer is a caricature of a hyperbolically lousy sitcom husband and father who never suffers consequences for more than a few minutes).

The entire point of the Frank Grimes character/episode was to have reality intrude; and remind the audience that the only reason Homer is depicted as having the good fortune and realization of the American Dream that he does is because he doesn't exist in real life - And if he did, he would be regarded as a horrible person. That's the joke. Homer Simpson doesn't exist to be a role model - He exists to be a cartoon you can laugh at without hurting its feelings.
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Maybe it's because I rewatched season 1 recently but it had its wholesome family moments you never see any more, not to mention Christian moments. See also "Do it for her" and the various other episodes about the kids as babies. That was my point, that even The Simpsons had those themes and moments of family sentimentality.
 
TheArtilleryman dijo:
Maybe it's because I rewatched season 1 recently but it had its wholesome family moments you never see any more, not to mention Christian moments. See also "Do it for her" and the various other episodes about the kids as babies. That was my point, that even The Simpsons had those themes and moments of family sentimentality.
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In older episodes Homer was a fundamentally good man who's low intelligence led to reckless behavior and trouble, in newer episodes he's just a selfish sociopath.
 
Shartavius dijo:
The entire point of the Frank Grimes character/episode was to have reality intrude; and remind the audience that the only reason Homer is depicted as having the good fortune and realization of the American Dream that he does is because he doesn't exist in real life - And if he did, he would be regarded as a horrible person. That's the joke. Homer Simpson doesn't exist to be a role model - He exists to be a cartoon you can laugh at without hurting its feelings.
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That's really an exaggeration. Homer was more inconsiderate than malicious throughout the episode, and actually tried to apologize for once after he realized it, while Frank Grimes sperged out in front of Homer's family despite knowing basically nothing about them.

While Simpsons parody the American nuclear family, it never went to actual subversion but more of an exaggerated realism of the life of a low income family (similar to Malcolm in the Middle).

Frank Grimes wasn't a big statement on the show, but just a particlularly darkly comedic episode before the show lost all its edge.
 
Mike Matei's Penis dijo:
Gumball
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nonono, I want to go deep in his mom
that's slightly different
TheArtilleryman dijo:
Maybe it's because I rewatched season 1 recently but it had its wholesome family moments you never see any more, not to mention Christian moments.
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seriously it's really a whiplash to go from modern-ish media to the way early Simpsons treated Heaven and Hell as very real things to pray to Christian God about your concerns over
 
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