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The Amazing Digital Circus - Western Isekai that probably will become Hazbin Hotel killer
We see very little of how the cast actually functions as a social network, make all the headcanons all we want, but what we see in the show isn't very much, Jax is a prick, Ragatha feels insecure and isolated, Kinger is kooky, and Gangle and Zooble just kind of there.
You get a taste of that in episode 2. Ragatha's forced positivity and worry for the others makes her a bit like the responsible team mom. More interestingly she is the one to take the adventure seriously and actually gets into the roleplay interacting with the princess NPC and gets upset when Jax let's the fudge monster in to kill everybody. Jax while an asshole, still does the mission in his own way and even assumes a leadership role by basically bullying the others (especially pushovers like Gangle) to do what he wants and solves the quest by negotiating with the fudge monster to help them against Ragatha's wishes.
Unfortunately the dynamic and rivalry between Ragatha and Jax never really got expanded upon even though the series constantly hints at it.
ITT let's imagine an AU where SOMA is not a shocking twist at the end but is revealed at the beginning. Based on this, let's utilize their digital nature to imagine plot scenarios.
It starts off with a good premise, then the adventures stopped having any goals or stakes, then goose just has the characters mostly stay in the big top for the last few episodes because the show's main premise doesn't fucking matter and Goose just drops it LIKE EVERY OTHER FUCKING IDEA HE HAS IN THIS SHOW!
One of the more legitimately confounding things and wasted potential about this show is how just...relatively passive and non-decisive everyone is, even the more center-stage characters like Pomni and Jax didn't completely escape this, this is a story, people should do things that actively progress it, they could have made a point on how the circus was actively sucking the fun out of their life to the point they barely care anymore, but they didn't really go with that as a forefront issue surrounding the cast.
The reason the characters became passive and stopped advancing the plot is simple. Goose was betting every single chip on the SOMA reveal. He has a J.J. Abrams mystery box obsession, and the plot suffers for it.
Nobody asked the right questions, tried to escape (besides Pomni in episode 1), or even did the bare minimum detective work because the show was designed to bait YouTubers into making theories. If the characters actually took action, there would be no mystery.
This also applies to character progression , by the way. Every little scrap of character development had to be a huge, secret, le epic reveal for YouTubers. Delving into Jax’s backstory isn’t even a bad idea. The trouble is that Goose thought it was "climax of the finale of the show" material instead of just bare minimum character work.
YouTubers were certainly happy making slop theory videos and monetizing them. But if he had revealed SOMA earlier, we could have had more time seeing the characters deal with it. I just don’t see why it was necessary to hide Ribbit until the finale, or wait to reveal that Queenie existed until late into the show. Or why we barely know anything about Pomni or Gangle, etc.
The show is so J.J. mystery box-poisoned that neither the plot nor the characters progress, simply because everything has to be fuel for theories.
Barring the fact Kinger had apparently known this the whole time and could have told everyone else about it LONG ago because apparently only Pomni was the only person that ever realized the guy gets saner in the dark, something Ragatha should have found out at some point, given how close she is to him.
The reveal didn't even seem to affect anyone that much, Jax's abstraction took center stage for most of the episode (and in his case, his own abstraction had long been in the making and was mostly caused by other factors, so the reveal wasn't even that important in his demise) and Caine basically fixed everything by the end, what is even the point of the reveal if you're barely going to do anything with it?
This also applies to character progression , by the way. Every little scrap of character development had to be a huge, secret, le epic reveal for YouTubers
Most stories tend to use character development as a vehicle to further progress the ongoing narrative, showing us how this character would now act under after all of that personal growth and change, The Digital Circus instead got the idea that character development is the reward in on itself and they're basically narratively irrelevant afterwards since they've "completed their arc".
I don't know if that could be a viable way to tell stories, but in the case of this show, it's really not and just winds up making most of the characters sitting ducks.
Delving into Jax’s backstory isn’t even a bad idea. The trouble is that Goose thought it was "climax of the finale of the show" material instead of just bare minimum character work.
Caine's conflict with the cast being effectively demoted into a subplot just doesn't sit right with me, this is something that has been brewing since the very beginning of the show, while Jax's own self destruction drama only properly began in episode 6 superseded Caine in importance by the finale
I don't know what the hell happened during the screenplay stages, but Goose got really distracted, seriously, rewatch the entire series, he's basically a side character for the first half, and then noticeably grows into importance from episode 5-6, gets relegated to the side for 2/3rds of ep 7, and stays that way for episode 8, for a character people kept bemoaning as taking too much of the spotlight, it's only in episode 5, 6 and 9 is when he's actually center stage for most of the runtime, It's as if Goose was just fine one day doing his own thing, writing his Tumblr humor not-kiddy show, and then at some point got retraumatized by his own personal issues, and decided to vent all that shit into one of the characters halfway through, it's very bizarre.
I actually wouldn't mind Jax being the central antagonist and having all of the emotional drama to revolve around him, Gooseworx should have just went all in from the very beginning, because now we would have the needed runtime to fully flesh out his issues, conflict, and resolution, what we got was actually not that bad, but it could have been so much better if this started from beginning to end, because at least I wouldn't be baited into a false premise, which is easily my biggest personal complaint about this show, I despise being rugpulled and then being told its apparently my fault for being interested in what was initially presented.
The Digital Circus instead got the idea that character development is the reward in on itself and they're basically narratively irrelevant afterwards since they've "completed their arc".
I don't know what the hell happened during the screenplay stages, but Goose got really distracted, seriously, rewatch the entire series, he's basically a side character for the first half, and then noticeably grows into importance from episode 5-6, gets relegated to the side for 2/3rds of ep 7, and stays that way for episode 8, for a character people kept bemoaning as taking too much of the spotlight, it's only in episode 5, 6 and 9 is when he's actually center stage for most of the runtime, It's as if Goose was just fine one day doing his own thing, writing his Tumblr humor not-kiddy show, and then at some point got retraumatized by his own personal issues, and decided to vent all that shit into one of the characters halfway through, it's very bizarre.
I would say Jax was always ment to be an important character with him and Ragatha being foils for each other and the two are the ones who interact with Pomni the most. I do agree something changed with Goose because 2 and 3 felt like establishing show status quo, go on an adventure, learn a bit about what's going on, some characters have a heart to heart, and a character uses a unique talent or ability to finish the adventure so they can go home. 4 felt lazy and 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 just felt like Goose changed his mind about wanting to work on the series and speed ran the plot when he (and Glitch) originally wanted to slowburn it because it was their most profitable series.
I am sick of relatable characters. I am sick of characters who are gay or trans or some other mental illness. I am sick of male leads who are faggots and are weak or evil or cucked.
I am sick of shows that are specifically targeted to twitterfags and reddit cucks. I am sick of indie shows using plushies to makret themselves and make money.
I am sick of shows having jokes where they don't belong, "deep" ideas and constantly having some edgy subversion to the plot.
I want less relatable characters, less subversion, less faggot yaoi and yuri ships, and less "deep" themes.
But what i do want is more sincerity, more ACTUAL SERIOUS TONES AND NOT JUST HUMOR WITH SOME SERIOUSNESS, but most importantly, i want a setting that takes itself seriously.
The response to Fortnite Pomni has been fascinating and concerning
Me Too and the feminist takeover of media has made it verboten to find actual women sexy, so zoomers and gen alpha are treating adult proportioned Pomni as the sexiest thing they've ever seen because it's close to, but not actually, a regular woman.
Jax and pomni (and kinger as well kinda) had a little bit of development in each episode till it's time for returning everyrthing to status quo in episode 9.
...and so they can't have kinger exposition dump in episode 7 so they turn his talk about being calmer in the dark into a literal sanity meter BUT THEY DON'T HAVE HIM ACT ANY FUCKING DIFFERENTLY IN OR OUT OF THE DARK FUCK REEEEE I ALREADY COVERED THIS
EDIT: IT bothers me how the only clips I can ever find of anything these days are these compilations with captions showing whats on screen but fuck it this is all we got now.
I wouldn't call this a "secretly" situation like this uploader says but like this shows some of the small character interactions and small visual gags you might have missed like the fact the adventure suggestion he gave had actual requests for each person.
EDIT: Fuck also I forgot about the brief bit of dialogue that implied jax was doing "important things" before getting stuck here which really makes the "ran off after possibly killing his mom and freaking out" backstory in episode 9 a bit more fucking weird and out there because that is in no way shape or form something that'd warrant the kind of visible seething about not being able to get the important things done he does there.
The clussy show is code lyoko, but instead of Soviet Jew tubes connected to a uranium powered supercomputer within the basement of an abandoned French machinery factory; Containing both an AI that can hate and a real girl virtualized into a friendly AI who can be returned to flesh and blood via said computer wizardry jew tubes that are used to digitize minds into digital avatars in the virtual realm while preserving the real body in time so that it can be returned to, or highjacked by the Hate AI that wants to leave-
Instead it’s gods worst chrome book hooked up to a VR headset running DnD fortnite mcwagie simulations on niggerfaggot brain scans in VR chat. Lol
The part about this show I hate most is the teenage handmaidens being suckered into "uwu trans girls are just like us!~" instead of being deeply disturbed when it blatantly showed you 8 episodes of the "transgirl" being a massive woman hating faggot who'd kill you and get a boner over it if he could. And then women start crying about how "he just became abusive out of nowhere, there weren't any red flags, I'm the victim" as they hop from abusive whackjob man to abusive whackjob man. At some point you have to take responsibility that coddling their girly delusion is making you an easy target. Not to say everyone in an abusive relationship is bringing on their own fate but goddamn get some pattern recognition, you only survived so long because you live in a safe bubble that you believe a wolf that talks to be a man instead of an abomination.
The clussy show is code lyoko, but instead of Soviet Jew tubes connected to a uranium powered supercomputer within the basement of an abandoned French machinery factory; Containing both an AI that can hate and a real girl virtualized into a friendly AI who can be returned to flesh and blood via said computer wizardry jew tubes that are used to digitize minds into digital avatars in the virtual realm while preserving the real body in time so that it can be returned to, or highjacked by the Hate AI that wants to leave-
Instead it’s gods worst chrome book hooked up to a VR headset running DnD fortnite mcwagie simulations on niggerfaggot brain scans in VR chat. Lol
I know my brain is deeply broken when I understood every word of this perfectly, but to 99% of the human race it would come off as schizophrenic gibberish.
People excuse the cast being hyperpassive and not doing shit by saying "OH it's a character driven show, you're just mad it wasn't about lore and mystery and your theories were wrong", but in hindsight, there is no way TADC can be called a character driven show.
Who are these characters? Where is the plot? What is being driven??
It's like zoomers think "character driven plot" means the "plot" is characters crying and "developing" (but they think this is also what filler means and wish it had more) and not that the real plot is actively driven by the main characters personal struggles.
Want an example of a character driven show? Breaking Bad. It was about a teacher who found out he had cancer so he says YOLO and cooks meth for fun. This escalates into him becoming a drug dealer and involved in many big criminal hijinks.
But if you put the main cast from TADC in another story they would do nothing but react. Zooble wouldn't even do that, she would leave the plot on the first opportunity.
Even if you think tadc "plot" is characters dealing with their traumas, it doesn't really does that. No proactiveness comes from it, they just vent and get over it or jax pushes other away. Kinger didn't talk to ragatha cause she asked him for advice, he did because both happened to be locked in a dark place where he his personality changes. Everyone only has 1-2 dynamics and are barely friends. Caine and kinger never had a conversation lol.
You can argue jax is the "character" "driving" the "plot" but Jax barely did shit either. The only changes to the status quo he made was befriend pomni then broke up with her then die offscreen. This is so nothing that goose has to cheat the plot and have pomni literally meet the ghost of jax and absorb his flashbacks. Because no one in this cast asks questions.
Imagine airing 83% your show and telling your audience that they got the main charaters wrong. I cannot understand how goose genuinely stands by that in good consciousness unless his writing is that bad, the story was rewritten near the half or the development of the show was terribly managed.
Their faces were literally on the doors with Xs over em in the first fucking episode, kinger explictly talks about his wife in episode 3. She just doesn't get any speaking lines outside of a brief flashback when they first get trapped there in the later episodes. And that scene specifically implies something other than the brain scan twist because they're employees of C&A that made the fucking ai thing and vr headset to begin with.
Jax is a troon, Pomni is a bird (TikTok term for women who bend over backwards trying to excuse any toxic/abusive MALE behavior because they are into said MALE.
Who are these characters? Where is the plot? What is being driven??
It's like zoomers think "character driven plot" means the "plot" is characters crying and "developing" (but they think this is also what filler means and wish it had more) and not that the real plot is actively driven by the main characters personal struggles.
It's something else. The "media literacy" types that have internalized film theory and headcanon to the point where it's broken their brain. Made worse by the fact most get it completely wrong and have anti-media literacy.
There was a story I heard recently where Hugh Laurie went off against someone criticizing House for being formulaic and therefore shit. Hugh went on to say "I look forward to your novel" or something like that. And he's right.
You're assuming a show has to be plot driven, and has to follow the "hollywood forumla". (The short version, a film follows a 3 act structure. Rising action, falling action, conclusion. The first half is asking questions, the second half answers questions. There are three characters that matter. The protagonist is after something concrete, the antagonist is trying to stop them achieving that.) The problem is that a lot of films and shows don't follow that structure. Are they counting individual episodes or the series as a whole?
