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Should be a wild four years.

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How can you run a country when the other half doesn't give a shit about morality, rules or laws?
Short answer, you don't. Long answer, *looks down*
How do you fight a party that openly cheats, brags about it and then wins anyway and no one does anything? This is why I think civil war is coming, the Democrats won't be satisfied until they rig the system so that they can never ever again lose power. When the next Democratic PotUS packs the SCotUS, adds in DC and Puerto Rico as states and opens the borders to illegals there can only be war to stop them. You can't argue with someone who has no internal rules, you can't use laws to stop people who don't agree to be bound by said laws but will instantly use those very same laws against you the second it becomes useful.
Well, a good start is not to form a bunch of hypotheticals to lead yourself to the conclusion that nothing can be done so we might as well give up until we kill each other. Christ Almighty, calm down.
There will be a civil war, it's simply inevitable.
Aren't you Canadian? Yah, you are I remember.
He will sit on it, just like with the SAVE Act.
Thune doesn't have the excuse of needing to pass the DHS funding this time, it's pass this or pass the SAVE act. If he bitches out and stalls on this then chimp out so the administration knows that faggot needs to go next.
The Democrats control Commiefornia lock, stock and barrel, so they can really do what ever they want as the very liberal Commiefornia courts will just rubber stamped whatever the state house passes. I would not bet any money on a GoP Govenor anytime soon.
If they had absolute control then two Republicans wouldn't be front running the jungle primary, causing them to freak out as they are. This idea that Democrats have absolute control of anything to the point that nothing can be done is a farce sold to people by doomers and groypers to convince you to do nothing.
 
Again...how do you live side by side with someone who wants you dead, someone who views you as the very epitome of the evil in this world, will do whatever it takes to make that happen and have zero ethical constraints stopping them? This is why I think the Left will eventually win, just because the Right keeps on handicapping itself by have ethics, living by rules and laws and not doing "anything and everything" to win. When your enemy, and the Left is the enemy of everyone living in the West be sure of that, will stop at nothing to destroy you and your way of life what choice will you have?

There will be a civil war, it's simply inevitable.

I mean, that’s always been the case in the United States, going back to the Federalists and the Anti-Federalists. Such strife and yet we’ve had only one civil war. We just get along with each other.

I think it's that most people are lazy, and the people capable of understanding what a civil war would actually look like want no part of it.

I tell myself i'm part of the latter, when I know damn well i'm part of the former.

It generally would not look like a civil war in any way we recognize. Just look at the available assets and land. In a traditional civil war it had several States working together with all the citizens of the state united by choice or by force, and they put together armies to march across state lines and fight an opposing state.

This war would not be like that. The Republicans basically control the federal government and it's resources, and it has the support of almost all of the countryside. The Democrats only control cities that can be blockaded, and whoever in the army they can subvert without their underlings or superiors shooting them for treason. Maybe the port cities could hire troops from overseas and have them shipped in, but their money may not be trusted and the troops they employ might take over them instead

I'm not home right now, but you can basically take the 2024 US election results and assume that only districts that have a +20 for the Democrats will be under their control. Anything less then that and most centrist would not support a civil war, and anything deeply red would fight back. Take a look at that map and see how many districts the Democrats will actually control, and if they are self sufficient. Pay attention to gerrymandering where 90% of a districts land had it's votes overwhelmed by the municipal part.
Not to worry my niggas, the brightest minds of the young up & coming generation (gamers) have already accurately predicted what a Second American Civil War would really look like.

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Trump signed an Executive Order today that forces banks to identify customers of theirs that are either paying illegals in cash or are illegals themselves:
The Mexicans in Mexico are scared that they'll lose their remittance money because of this order:
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One of them correctly points out that if you're a legal immigrant this order doesn't stop you from sending money back home:
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Some other Mexicans are glad their degenerate countrymen are losing their free money:
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And others think Trump is going after the cartels, not them, and blame the Mexican government for being in bed with them:
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What exactly was Massi's plan anyways? He obvioulsy wanted to court the anti Trump right (groypers) but he hated ICE and groypers didn't think the deportations were going far enough. He also sucked Jewcock and groypers hate Jews.

Who was his intended audience?
Probably grand standing to set himself up for a book or media deal. Look at MTG. I imagine he'll be in a similar boat.
 
I don’t know whether the prevailing attitude here is relief that a major impediment to actually getting Trump agenda line items passed has been removed or seething rage at the loss of a fellow Jewsperg.
It's about 50/50 outside of this thread. Try the Massie loss thread if you want to see the specifics of the sperging.
It's trooning out.
It's an open secret. I knew a guy who hung out in a furry Discord and the resident troon described groypers as "needing some help" instead of the normal vitriolic froth he got into when describing anyone vaguely well adjusted and Christian. Degens recognize their own.
 
More realistically, the smarter Dems who could pull it off are all old as shit and would be far better off enjoying their last years then trying to start a revolution.

Meanwhile the young Dems are the most bottom of the barrel after decades of the elders purging the smart ones. They are also impulsive and quick to turn on each other to power level their superiority. Even if they wanted to, I don’t think AOC or her followers are smart enough to achieve anything other than attacking the low class, city dwellers they are fighting for.

I think everyone misunderstood what I meant by civil war.

Let me do a hypothetical here.

Newsome wins in 2028 and thanks to economic conditions the Democrats also win the House and the Senate. They take control in both the house and the senate.

So in order to secure power they have several things the have to handle the first being the SCOTUS. As currently in the eyes of most Americans the SCOTUS is still a reputable branch so out right going against them will be very, very tricky. Newsome ain't no Andrew Jackson so he will have to subvert the court. How? Easy, add more justices and with all 3 branches it's done in a month tops. No filibuster, it gets shut down so the court gets 4 more Ketanji Brown Jackson in the space of a month. Now the SCOTUS is 100% a Democrat tool.

Using this new tool Newsome kills all of Trumps EO, every last one. SAVE act? Gone, Voter ID. Gone. Anyone can vote without ID just show up to the poll and your good to go. The GoP obviously fight back but what can they do? They sue and the SCOTUS comes up with some ruling that justifies it 7 to 6. It's now legal precedent and that's that. Voter ID is dead, mail in ballots are now mandatory in all states.

Now the Democrats move to add Puerto Rico as a state, easy-peasy. They have the votes in both houses and within a week it's done. 3 months later elections are over and the Dems have 2 new Senators and 7 more House Reps.

Next is DC, which would need an amendment, but Newsome goes to the SCOTUS and they rubber stamp his new agenda 6 to 7 again and the house passes the DC state law. Now the Dem have 2 MORE senators and 4 more House reps. They can do whatever they want. They own the country and it's 100% legal. They start passing more laws, gun control, immigration, amnesty, troons everywhere, more taxes. What ever they want, it's go buck wild time and there is nothing any GoP member can do about it. Everything is done by the book but they take every opportunity to permanently solidify their control.

So what then? Do you think most Red states just sit and take it? I see Texas telling DC that they will not enforce any of these new laws or taxes. They reach out to other Red states and form a coalition of states that refuse to enforce any of the new laws or pay out the new taxes to DC. Then what? Do you think the Democrats will just allow half the country to ignore them?

Tensions rise. Lots of fiery rhetoric from both sides but we all know the Democrats will push hard, using the MSM they will paint the rebellious states as the next great Nazi rise or such. Something breaks, some stupid government agent, drunk on power and riding the wave of hatred, oversteps their authority on one side or the other and moves to arrest some politician. A struggle ensure, shots are fired and suddenly the country is on the brink of war. DC demands arrests and punishments, the Coalition won't turn anyone over and everything boils over. From here anything can happen but sooner or later the Feds will be forced to move against the rebel states or the Union is over and I just can't see the DNC elites letting more then half the country go free from their control.

That's just my opinion of how it could happen.
 
I love that Massie is so BPD about Trump.

Has anyone checked the TES thread to see if any new regulars there have ever referred to their dick as a pinecone?
Now that they got shut down on their "free power forever" gerrymander scheme, she is going to go back to trying to appear "moderate" through the next election cycle. This woman is evil and retarded but you can't afford to underestimate her, she was trained as a glowie and has a radical streak, she knows how to feign appearances and manipulate perception of retards (who, like it or not, make up the vast majority of the entire voting population).

I distrust fetterman for the same reason btw, he knows how to keep up appearances as a "moderate" and has higher ambition, but you can see that when it counts toward his ideological hard lines he always votes with the far left.
 
Aren't you Canadian? Yah, you are I remember.

Yah I am Canadian, that's why I'm trying to warn people.

It's already happened to my country. The Liberals have had control for 16 years now, they openly break laws but because the courts are all Liberal appointees do you think anything happens? They're re-writing our Constitution as we speak, getting rid of any of the legal powers the provinces have to deny Ottawa's mandates. The Canadian supreme court is packed with Liberal appointee's so they will just rubber stamp the new laws and Ottawa becomes the Law of the Land.

Canada has been conquered by the Left because it's people are sheep and retards who care more about virtue signalling that Orange Man Bad then the massive untenable deficit the country runs, the fact our government is picking a fight with what should be our closest ally, the fact the CCP has openly set up shop inside our largest cities, or the corrupt politicians who recently made themselves immune to being investigated. That's not a joke or an exaggeration. They passed a law that sitting Ministers cannot be investigated for crimes (aside from murder) until their time in office is over.

You Americans always think that shit can never happen here, that somehow America is immune to Lefty take over. Well it can and your not.
 
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