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Should be a wild four years.

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Trump is in the public gallery now during live arguments. Reddit is spamming threads on all about how he's there to mafia boss style intimidate the justices into ruling for him.

I don't quite understand why they think he will kill them or something if they go against him. This is a big issue and part of his movement, so obviously he wants to put heavy attention on it
 
It's a two way street. How often has the executive branch usurped congressional authority to participate in special operations that totally aren't wars?
Zero times? Congress passed the laws that the executive uses for war powers, and Congress can rescind them (assuming that the executive doesn't veto, lol).
 
Well it seems so far Trump might have already won over Alito on this he seemed to favor the admins view and scope. Long road to go but not really surprising


Edit update to avoid double post: The admins basic argument seems to be that subject to jurisdiction was originally framed around loyal to the country. Rather than simply being present within the nation
 
Can't edit oh well but the argument about subject to jurisdiction seems to be an extremely difficult case to make and might lead to wild outcomes. Hypothetically if that argument is found viable and scotus rules for Trump, I can see the admin saying pro Palestinian protesters lack a loyalty to the US and therefore lose their citizenship.

I know some people will go "that is great yipeee!" But I worry under a Democratic administration it will just be used as well! Interested to hear others thoughts
 
Declaring victory and scaling back in Iran.
He's going to announce 2 weeks(unironically) until the end of the conflict. This will be the window the Iranians have to take over their government with American support and for the euros to beef up strait security. After that we're out regardless.
I don't quite understand why they think he will kill them or something if they go against him. This is a big issue and part of his movement, so obviously he wants to put heavy attention on it
You don't get it. It's wish casting, they would love it. Trump killing a SC Judge would be the ultimate validation of their accusations that he is a tyrant. They desperately want Trump to be the dictator they pretend he is. It would be the penultimate validation.

Anyways. I hope the SC rules against birthright citizenship. I know it won't be retroactive, but even still it's a start and opens the immigration conversation to more scrutiny.
 
Can't edit oh well but the argument about subject to jurisdiction seems to be an extremely difficult case to make and might lead to wild outcomes. Hypothetically if that argument is found viable and scotus rules for Trump, I can see the admin saying pro Palestinian protesters lack a loyalty to the US and therefore lose their citizenship.

I know some people will go "that is great yipeee!" But I worry under a Democratic administration it will just be used as well! Interested to hear others thoughts
I imagine there will be a loyalty test
 
I imagine there will be a loyalty test
I find it exceptionally difficult to imagine that being practical to administer. Would you require everyone present within the US to take a test? What would occur if someone was born here and parents were but failed the test, what would happen to them?


I think a best case practical solution would be this applies only going forward but still idk how practical that is. Having to check the loyalty ( whatever that entails or means ) of everyone within the US will be a massive mess and not only speak to the political upheaval it will cause (which the roberts court is explicitly trying to avoid causing)
 
The moon is a fake hologram to cover up the fact that it was an egg that has now hatched. Moonman is what hatched from it.
The "Moon" is a ridiculous liberal myth. It amazes me that so many allegedly "educated" people have fallen so quickly and so hard for a fraudulent fabrication of such laughable proportions. The very idea that a gigantic ball of rock happens to orbit our planet, showing itself in neat, four-week cycles--with the same side facing us all the time--is ludicrous. Furthermore, it is an insult to common sense and a damnable affront to intellectual honesty and integrity. That people actually believe it is evidence that the liberals have wrested the last vestiges of control of our public school system from decent, God-fearing Americans (as if any further evidence was needed! Daddy's Roommate? God Almighty!) Documentaries such as Enemy of the State have accurately portrayed the elaborate, byzantine network of surveillance satellites that the liberals have sent into space to spy on law-abiding Americans. Equipped with technology developed by Handgun Control, Inc., these satellites have the ability to detect firearms from hundreds of kilometers up. That's right, neighbors... the next time you're out in the backyard exercising your Second Amendment rights, the liberals will see it! These satellites are sensitive enough to tell the difference between a Colt .45 and a .38 Special! And when they detect you with a firearm, their computers cross-reference the address to figure out your name, and then an enormous database housed at Berkeley is updated with information about you. Of course, this all works fine during the day, but what about at night? Even the liberals can't control the rotation of the Earth to prevent nightfall from setting in (only Joshua was able to ask for that particular favor!) That's where the "moon" comes in. Powered by nuclear reactors, the "moon" is nothing more than an enormous balloon, emitting trillions of candlepower of gun-revealing light. Piloted by key members of the liberal community, the "moon" is strategically moved across the country, pointing out those who dare to make use of their God-given rights at night! Yes, I know this probably sounds paranoid and preposterous, but consider this. Despite what the revisionist historians tell you, there is no mention of the "moon" anywhere in literature or historical documents--anywhere--before 1950. That is when it was initially launched. When President Josef Kennedy, at the State of the Union address, proclaimed "We choose to go to the moon", he may as well have said "We choose to go to the weather balloon." The subsequent faking of a "moon" landing on national TV was the first step in a long history of the erosion of our constitutional rights by leftists in this country. No longer can we hide from our government when the sun goes down.
 
Can't edit oh well but the argument about subject to jurisdiction seems to be an extremely difficult case to make and might lead to wild outcomes. Hypothetically if that argument is found viable and scotus rules for Trump, I can see the admin saying pro Palestinian protesters lack a loyalty to the US and therefore lose their citizenship.

I know some people will go "that is great yipeee!" But I worry under a Democratic administration it will just be used as well! Interested to hear others thoughts
I'm OK with all pro-palestinian faggots being deported and hopefully raped to death even if that means the new SA farmers have to go too. I'm 1000% OK with that.
 
Can't edit oh well but the argument about subject to jurisdiction seems to be an extremely difficult case to make and might lead to wild outcomes. Hypothetically if that argument is found viable and scotus rules for Trump, I can see the admin saying pro Palestinian protesters lack a loyalty to the US and therefore lose their citizenship.

I know some people will go "that is great yipeee!" But I worry under a Democratic administration it will just be used as well! Interested to hear others thoughts
Ever hear the term "foreign subject"? Before citizenship, people were the subjects of a ruler. That's what "subject to" is in reference of.

The idea that the Constitution was amended in order to make it so that the children of tourists and trespassers are considered natural citizens is so insane and retarded that only a Jew could argue for it.
 
Ever hear the term "foreign subject"? Before citizenship, people were the subjects of a ruler. That's what "subject to" is in reference of.
I guess I just don't see how this is practical thinking with the argument the admin is making so far. If being a subject of a ruler is what subject of references as you put it, how is this possibly determined? Are people who follow the laws subjects of the ruler (the us constitution)? If not, how would you determine the subject loyalty of someone?

The problem I'm having is finding a practical way to apply this to potentially millions of people and then what to do with them.
 
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