Iran Crisis ∩ Trump Politics Mass Debates Thread

They went down. Neat.
i don't know what commie hellhole people who shit up the thread about gas prices live in, mine have been going down in a deep red state, so i guess they just don't know enough to blame high gas taxes on their local and state governments. :story:

This guy is a literal nobody: https://marcowenjones.substack.com/p/who-is-amjad-taha-a-deep-dive

Why are people taking shit like this on the xitty from veritable Patrick S Tomlinson "political experts" as gospel?
how about instead of whining, you do it instead? i'm happy to give whatever sources you use a look as well, while i wait for that sweet sweet milcam footage.

I'm not (thankfully) dependent on my car, I can easily ride a bike to work if necessary. But the cost at the pumps is already up like 0.3EUR where I live.

But who really gives a fuck what that does to costs at the pump for the consumers, it's the fact that EVERYTHING will be more expensive. Looking forward to another 10% increase in food prices while my salary stays the same.
i sympathize with you, but unfortunately we did try and have this done more swiftly and with even more ability to keep this from happening, and a bunch of countries were too reticent to listen.

No. Shortages, at least in the US, are impossible. And a good amount of Saudi oil (about 40% of what is available) is now moving out of the Port of Yanbu on the Red Sea, and then through the Suez Canal. Look on MarineTraffic.com and you will see a ton of ships going through the Suez and then around the Cape of Good Hope (though many are ignoring the Houtis and going by Yemen). Right now what we have is a supply chain problem, the world supply of oil was not low before the war.
I wonder. Is there any certain International Superpower that's known for, above all else, its ability to establish supply chains? :story:

Welcome, welcome, to the STRAIT OF AMERICA!
 
i sympathize with you, but unfortunately we did try and have this done more swiftly and with even more ability to keep this from happening, and a bunch of countries were too reticent to listen.
What is done is done, the important thing is now to find a solution for it. The world really isn't ready for another big spike of oil prices.
 
What is done is done, the important thing is now to find a solution for it. The world really isn't ready for another big spike of oil prices.
You know that this means annihilation for Iran. It always did. It's just that now is the time that it's being done. Iran was always headed this way, because of their own belligerent retardation.

I will pray for you and your loved ones, and all Europeans, to be swiftly helped through this short-term disaster for long-term gains, because despite my personality coming across a bit khorne-like, it really is just hatred for muslim violence against Christians that motivates me to feel this way, and I want Europe to be able to rise up powerful and strong, against this kind of shit. It's why I believe this is in the best interests of everyone on Earth, except maybe the Iranians who get bombed, and I am sincerely sorry to the families who've lost servicemembers since the war began, as well. Their sacrifice will hopefully be meaningful in removing this literal bond villain level evil from the world.

Saudi Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud on Iran and its proxies:
aw shit, the saudis are ready for a blood feud now. this is fighting words for real, bringing up the rift between them and basically saying "look you retarded sandniggers, you're fucking shit up for everybody, so it's really hard to take your shite asses seriously. why don't you just cut your dicks off and calm the fuck down you bunch of troons?" the arabs have grown restless against their Iranian hornet's-nest-poker. The hornets are going to swarm if they don't lose completely or knock it the fuck off soon.

cool to see them specifically name the PMF too.
 
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deep state trump is now blatantly and transparently lying to try and smear a war hero for telling the truth. it's really amazing they're trying this shit when literally everyone knows it's a lie. Just shameless.
 
>No Islamist force.
>No Islamic regime.

Isn't that an ultra haram statement for the people in the region?
Even the US's antics in the region haven't exactly promoted secular governments.

the UAE is an islamic theocracy of the sunni variety, which should've been the first tip-off that this is probably not official speech.
The UAE is a monarchy, and Saudi arabia is a theocratic monarchy. This is a pretty major point of division between the two nations. the UAE is an islamic nation but does not structure itself as an islamic regime and they generally view islamist governments as both a threat to themselves as a monarchy, but also a risk to stable economic relations which the UAE greatly enjoys.

The one place the two countries get along is often their opposition to Iran and their exporting of their brand of shia islamic revolution, and in fighting their proxies like the houthis, but in numerous other areas around the region you can see the two countries oppose one another a lot, in places like Sudan, Somalia, and Yemen when you look at who has the backing of who from the middle east, you'll find the UAE backing whoever they see as the more secular faction, and the Saudis backing whoever is more islamist. This conflict was heating up even just in recent months when the Saudis bombed a port in Yemen to prevent a weapons shipment from the UAE to southern Yemen, southern yemen being the more secular faction that the UAE were backing while the Saudis backed the pre-existing government faction the PLC, while both the Saudis and the UAE opposed the Houthi faction because like I said they both hate Iran and their proxies. but outside of that uniting factor they are in a cold war of sorts throughout the rest of the region.

In a hypothetical post-Theocratic Iran middle east, expect this Saudi/UAE tension to be the primary source of tension in the region going forward with the unique twist that the axis's forming around that tension create some difficult choices for the US.

The UAE is generally on better terms with Israel, and a proponent of more secular governments that the US would probably like to see in the region.

the Saudis on the other hand align more with Qatar, home to major US military installations, and with Turkey, a fellow NATO member.
 
Refineries turn oil into refined product. Most developed countries do not buy refined product, they buy (crude) oil as they have their own refining industry.
why in the world would someone like him know that? he's not from the developed world!

I mean if we're going to go off "vibes" of a person based on what they look like, then would be ok to go off vibes that a person with a pepe avatar and sneed in their name is not that intelligent?
say it ain't so! yeah the soyteen there doesn't exactly strike fear into the cockles of a Righteous Christian Heart. Or even a normal person's heart, I imagine.

War makes for strange bedfellows.

Joe Kent didn't resign because of Iran, he resigned because he was under investigation or leaking classified info.
My gut continues to knock it out of the park knowing when someone's a grifting snake running while the running's good.

I hope Japan recovers well, we just made some new deals with them recently.
big fuel deal, too.

56 billion.

this is why it's only a pro-american move to fuck up Iran. They can throw their fag fit and 'close' the strait until we take it permanently, now an American territory, and run the strait of america our way. and in the meantime, everyone can buy American crude or refined fuel.
 
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Trump has said that he didn't know the South Pars gas field was going to be attacked by israel. That's admitting that they've gone rogue and are doing what they want. Time to walk away.

It makes me wonder if trump was calling on help from allies not for assistance with iran, but to tard-wrangle israel.
 
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deep state trump is now blatantly and transparently lying to try and smear a war hero for telling the truth. it's really amazing they're trying this shit when literally everyone knows it's a lie. Just shameless.

Wow, Levin was right. Trump really is the first Jewish president.

It's amazing how they just keep doubling down, keep trying to force compliance, even though all it's doing is waking more people up.
 
They can throw their fag fit and 'close' the strait until we take it permanently, now an American territory, and run the strait of america our way. and in the meantime, everyone can buy American crude or refined fuel.
First;
If the pro-war kike pets were winning the propaganda war they'd not have needed the admin to shut out people who were anti-war from the start of the other thread, then come here to shit up this one.

If you niggers are so secure in your belief that the war on Iran for the sole benefit of Yidsrael is fully justified and that people support it, entering this thread would be wholly unnecessary.

Every pro-war post in this thread is a testament to just how miserably their pathetic propaganda effort is going for their self-evidently pointless and wasteful war.
Second; that's the most delusionally retarded thing I've heard and I followed the Ukraine war.

There is no 'we', that's not how any of this shit works, and the concept of a 'Strait of America' is as worthy of ridicule as the Bering Strait being renamed the "Russian Strait" sometime this century for many similar reasons.

The talking points you drones spit out bordering on the same tier of lunacy as trannyism or support of open borders is as eye opening as it is galling. I sincerely hope you don't actually believe this shit.
War makes for strange bedfellows.
Post hands, brownoid.

That's how this works right? You don't actively hate to the point of violence, a muslim majority country, you must be a third worlder?
 
Trump has said that he didn't know the South Pars gas field was going to be attacked by israel. That's admitting that they've gone rogue and are doing what they want. Time to walk away.

It makes me wonder if trump was calling on help from allies not for assistance with iran, but to tard-wrangle israel.
Don't believe that for a second. He knew and he's trying to shift the blame. Bad move. This guy has half his family held hostage by the jews, and now he's trying to throw them under the bus. They will remember this. As soon as he's no longer useful to them, they will destroy him and his legacy. Whatever info they have been holding back about him will 100% find its way out.

... Which was probably going to happen anyway, thinking about it. But now it definitely is. He's biting the master's hand.
 
Trump has said that he didn't know the South Pars gas field was going to be attacked by israel. That's admitting that they've gone rogue and are doing what they want. Time to walk away.

It makes me wonder if trump was calling on help from allies not for assistance with iran, but to tard-wrangle israel.
That's a very uppity comment from Zognald, I don't think Bibi will appreciate this implication that the Chosen People have an obligation to inform their goyim body slaves about when and where they intend to strike.
 
Don't believe that for a second. He knew and he's trying to shift the blame. Bad move. This guy has half his family held hostage by the jews, and now he's trying to throw them under the bus. They will remember this. As soon as he's no longer useful to them, they will destroy him and his legacy. Whatever info they have been holding back about him will 100% find its way out.

... Which was probably going to happen anyway, thinking about it. But now it definitely is. He's biting the master's hand.
If, big if, netenyoohoo is dead and israel government has splintered into shadow groups - which is what happened to the OSS when it became the CIA, then I can imagine some factions of ultra-zionists in israel are going total warfare and have cut america, and other israeli groups, out of the loop and chain-of-command.

I know how unlikely that sounds, and it is unlikely, but other than trump lying, going rogue because he's close to the end of his life, has lost his marbles due to hereditary demensia or israel and america have fallen out with one another, I can't rationally explain the approach to this conflict.

Trump is a father at the end of the day and he would, like most fathers, die for their kids. So trump himself may not be threated by the jews, they may be holding his kids hostage.
 
Is this the right place?
TLDR: Suicide ships to break undersea cables. I like ye olde days fireships? Maybe or maybe not?
Was gonna make an effort post explaining why this isnt a super plausible idea. But to keep it short, The internet is highly resilient and cutting a few cables would just slow down the internet as Tcp and other protocols then route and direct traffic to different lines and data centers. It might cut off a few countries or force them strictly to satellite but taking down the internet entirely is a huge task.
 
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