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Iirc that was inasmuch that as much as it was a bad storm at a bad time in a bad place. Hard to prevent the worst case scenario even when you know of it.
No, that would've been prevented with previous funding.
What would be a justified reason then? Reducing government spending and overeach tends to be the MAGA priority, unless you'd beg to differ on those as justified.
How do you define "overreach"? Right now it seems to be "anything that triggers Donald Trump",
That is retarded. However, California sex ed teaching how wonderful the troons are is also retarded, yet somehow it happens without any attention from said DOE, and sometimes even encouraged via title IX enforcement. It either allows your example to occur, in which case its incompetent, and/or it allows my example to occur, and is tyrannical. Either way, it would seem superfluos given the inability to execute its mission competently and fairly.
If you want us to stop importing Indians, we need better education here so that we can employ skilled Americans in Big Tech roles. You can't gut education and be against education and still want to stop importing Indians, unless you want big tech to be screwed.
If you're meaning our beloved "maryland man" he had previous DV charges, human trafficking charges, and MS 13 connections. He was not a citiczen, and per US immigration law, can be removed from the US should he commit crimes. He was not allowed to be deported to el salvador, I'll grant you that, but removing him from the country is fully legal, and within the bounds of immigration law and power.
Absolutely, but there's been others who have not broken the law, and even some citizens and people here legally, who have been arrested by ICE. In fact, Trump's administration argued to the supreme court that someone simply being not white should be grounds alone for arresting them.
And? My point isn't our spending, it is that the spending of our Allies is about 21 drops short right now. We all agreed to be allies, and part of that is that would all put 2% of our GDP in that bucket. They aren't delivering on their promises. Following on that when it comes to Greenland, it makes me wonder, if now during peacetime, when they still can't perform their obligations, when things go hot and the chips are down, can we really trust them to step up to the plate?
We are allies and they would come to our defense, and did after 9/11. That is the point of NATO. Again, you're only for invading Greenland because Trump wants to. You seem to have zero convictions of your own, which is typical of USPG2ers.
True, I didn't. On the Epstein one, it should have been clear that I disagreed with the premise. As for the foreign wars, I also disagreed with the premise as written, but I also conceded the spirit of the question in that MAGA has become more interventionist that it was even a year ago.
As stated previously, I'm not dodging the question, I merely don't agree with the premise. If I asked you why you love to drink sewage water, and you responded telling me that you don't actually do that, you're not dodging my question, you're disagreeing with it's premise.
My apologies, I find it easier, but I can change that it to just text blocks for your preference.
How can you disagree with the premise? Trump has been against releasing the files and you guys still seemingly worship him and defend everything he does. Me even pointing out the hypcrisy resulted in a dozen of your fellow MAGA replying to me disagreeing. So you concede that I was right about interventionism but still dodged the question. This is why I don't take you seriously. You guys rarely ever answer any of my questions and instead just insult me (well, you haven't done this but your fellow MAGAs have plenty) and dodge it like it's an education. If you want me to answer your questions, you should start to answer mine for a change.

And yes, replying like you do makes it harder to quote on this site. It's a bug but super annoying

It seems kinda odd to let 10000x people go just because some foid could be let go on a technicality.

thats like me saying “if we arrest that all the terrorists, we would have to let the one terrorist goat milker go… and that’s a line too far!”

Now, I may have an IQ of 40 - but that doesn’t check out. Morality wise, it’s better to arrest 40000 pedos if it means letting one go. Besides, she is a no name foid. Man… imagine if you could arrest the Prince of England, bill gates, Stephen king, Stephen hawkings skeleton, and Taylor swift. But nope, allegedly, it wasn’t possible to name all these people because of one grandma foid.

I, am unconvinced. 😎
Or we could just wait til the appeal is done and then get all of the pedos?
 
This has been explained a bazillion times already, but here goes again. Biden couldn't release the files because Ghislaine was appealing her sentence. If he had, she would've gotten off the hook on a technicality. After her appeal was denied, after Trump's inauguration, then they could be released. And now Trump is against releasing them.
There’s not much that’s actually implausible about Trump’s money. He built casinos and hotels on fucking boardwalk and park place

Sorry Hulkster, I meant to reply to mister fister
 
Or we could just wait til the appeal is done and then get all of the pedos?
If legal technicality kept Biden from moving forward with the files then I'm willing to believe Trump's admin is continuing that investigation. I really doubt his team threw all of the prior work investigating Ghislaine Maxwell into the trash. It's also just as likely they don't want the big club to have its members exposed having barely-legal sex parties.
 
europe absolutely has leverage, what are you talking about? they could withhold ratifying the trade deal that benefits us more than it does them or do retaliatory tariffs. if they just keep saying "no" he'll probably do something even more erratic and self-destructive. futures are already down over 1% and if this turns into a protracted trade dispute over greenland then trump will say "uncle" as soon as he can't handle the market heat after another week or so just like he did with the "liberation day" tariffs because TACO. i will be astonished if he pulls this off but i really just don't see anything happening other than international embarrassment.
America could 100% cut off Europe tomorrow and be fine. We’d lose some products but our economy would not suffer, we can be self sufficient, they cannot
 
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i’m still hopeful that the Epstein victims will come out with their own list of perpetrators like they promised half a year ago. yup. those whores will surely break their confidentiality agreements and lose the ability to blackmail rich men for immense amounts of money very soon

any day now

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Public Education is an oxymoron, its now Nigger Daycare and nothing more, being above average is quite literally physically and mentally painful for kids now (it was when I was in school back in the 90's too, but exponentially worse now).

All it teaches kids that are worth teaching, is that the world is for low intelligent niggers, and it will be greased for their ease of life above all else.
Whenever I feel uncomfortable or uneasy about the current education system being gutted, schools in my city closing because of funding cuts and the rise of private, tax subsidized schooling with bars of minimum expectations to enroll, I just need to realize that current public schools are mostly this.

The downside of the evolution is that it will no doubt create a two tiered system of education, where poor folks will struggle to participate. Not everyone, even smart kids who really want to learn, will have access to the private system no matter how motivated they are and my instinct is to be against that. But at the same time, that student enrolled in a public school will probably end up half illiterate and incapable because the teachers and admin were too busy herding niglets and ESL kids to actually work with the kids who want to learn.
 
If he's guilty, he deserves the rope, but Ashley herself says she was on drugs when she wrote that and he never did it, so I will take her word about it.

Still waiting for you to explain why Trump protecting the pedophiles in the Epstein files is no big deal to you


I'd put someone actually qualified to lead the Department of Education in charge and be willing to spend more money on education, even if it means billionaires have to pay more in taxes. That way we wouldn't have to import Indian people to work at tech companies and could hire Americans.
The fact that you think education credentials are why tech firms hire jeets is laughable, because jeets are mostly fucking retards who scheme and cheat to get any job at all and most of them use AI or google to do their tech jobs anyway. They hire jeets because jeets are already embedded in the companies and hiring process and they're willing to "work" slave hours for less pay than Americans. The jeet issue is not related to education.

Furthermore consider that most active American users of the internet as a whole probably come from a time when there was a huge push for education funding in many areas - do you really think throwing more money at it will solve the problem? No Child Left Behind fucked this country's education system up by allowing the retards to drag everyone else down and making it so that any burnout or dumbass who couldn't cut it would still be able to graduate, and that could possibly be tied to funding. But American education today is largely in the shitter because larger schools often have enough disruptive black kids or immigrants in them to make learning difficult for the smart kids, and the teachers at many schools are ideologically captured retarded women who spend time they could use to teach children to preach their political beliefs at them. The issue isn't money it's that we lowered the bar for retards of every race and nationality at the expense of the kids who actually contribute.
 
i’m still hopeful that the Epstein victims will come out with their own list of perpetrators like they promised half a year ago. yup. those whores will surely break their confidentiality agreements and lose the ability to blackmail rich men for immense amounts of money very soon

any day now

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That kind of makes me wonder. If Urkle from family matters and the Prince of England double penetrated your asshole, would you narc on them even if they offered you twenty million dollars?

Because, I think a ton of people who say yes, until they killed Epstein in his cell, then you know the rich elite (aka puff daddy and Sarah Silverman) could easily kill you and no one would ever find your murderer.

Thats why Trump is the most moral man alive. Could he have killed Stormy Daniels? Yes, but instead with grace, he lets his accusers live. Good for him!
 
Possible but seems unlikely. It'd be nice to see the unredacted files so we could see who the pedos are so they can face justice

Hulkster, we're diametrically opposed on the political compass, but you and I both know that so long as the powers that be cling to relevance, the unredacted Epstein files won't ever be released in our lifetimes. You and I will long be dead and either burning in Hell, suffering for thousands of kalpas as we get purged of our bad karma before rebirth, or just rot in the ground without fanfare before those Epstein files get released in pure, unredacted form.

Do us all favour homie, and go back to being a babyface. Heel Hulkster don't spark joy brother.
 
The current left is fundamentally anti-fun. They want everyone to be miserable all the time and avoid this, don't buy that, don't ask this, etc. All of that shit is painful, if somebody gets a cigarette put out on them everytime they go to a party they're eventually just going to associate that party with misery and avoid it. The current left doesn't reward people with pleasure for bending the knee, it doesn't defend them when they mess up, and it punishes them constantly. Even in clown world this isn't sustainable long term ESPECIALLY for young people.
Then why are more young people converting to communism? Why is Mamdani currently the mayor of New York? Seems very sustainable to me.

Obligatory: Do not get complacent, many of those die hard believers mentioned above are still out there and they have many plays at their disposal, but the average citizen has a lot more going on in their head than you would believe. That's how somebody like me goes from being a screeching radical leftist in 2008 to posting on kiwifarms in 2026. No seriously, i did it all, ban the rich, communism rules, all ypipo racis, all foreign cultures good, America causes all problems on earth and Europe is only civilized because of colonial stealing, etc. I walked the walk and it led me here with you guys.
You probably should have just stayed a screeching radical leftist. At least then you wouldn't be hunted down like cattle as anyone who opposes gay race communism will be after 2028.

I would like to remind you that it has been over four months since nothing of consequence happening to the left following Charlie Kirk's assassination, and the right has completely fallen apart from the top down in the interim. Tyler Robinson killed the man, and the idea.
 
The downside of the evolution is that it will no doubt create a two tiered system of education, where poor folks will struggle to participate. Not everyone, even smart kids who really want to learn, will have access to the private system no matter how motivated they are and my instinct is to be against that. But at the same time, that student enrolled in a public school will probably end up half illiterate and incapable because the teachers and admin were too busy herding niglets and ESL kids to actually work with the kids who want to learn.
It is a massive issue, but I don't think it's going to be anyones priority anytime soon sadly. There's alternatives at least, while imperfect: still offered for free like charter/online schools or via state grants (which most states have) can get kids whose family lack the money into some private schools. They aren't perfect, but there are ways to better education outside standard public schooling.
 
The fact that you think education credentials are why tech firms hire jeets is laughable, because jeets are mostly fucking retards who scheme and cheat to get any job at all and most of them use AI or google to do their tech jobs anyway. They hire jeets because jeets are already embedded in the companies and hiring process and they're willing to "work" slave hours for less pay than Americans. The jeet issue is not related to education.
IT and tech were wholly gutted by Indian consulting firms. It is much easier to pay a consulting firm some low consistent rate for a limitless fleet of underpaid and barely-qualified jeets who can be whipped into solving whatever minor problem the office boomers are experiencing. These jeets will always do whatever is asked of them because the alternative is getting their visa revoked and sent back to India. It is 21st century slave labor.

t. fifteen years experience watching this transition occur from a safe distance.
 
The downside of the evolution is that it will no doubt create a two tiered system of education, where poor folks will struggle to participate. Not everyone, even smart kids who really want to learn, will have access to the private system no matter how motivated they are and my instinct is to be against that. But at the same time, that student enrolled in a public school will probably end up half illiterate and incapable because the teachers and admin were too busy herding niglets and ESL kids to actually work with the kids who want to learn.
its more core than that, they simply do not teach kids anything worth teaching, basic math aside.
History? they teach a very very very narrow view of it, and no lessons to be learned, beyond Hitler Bad, they aren't going to go over any of the Crusades or wars of succession or even really Caesar or Alexander the Great or Marcus Aurelius or Napoleon or any of the Chinese Emperors, no one worth learning from, for kids now, these entities will only suddenly appear if they decide to look them up like I did, or the go to specific college classes on purpose.

The Arts? you will be ACTIVELY punished for being artistic, in art class, I was a fantastic sketch artist and clay sculptor, leagues beyond anything a kids should be able to do, for one of just two clay activities of the year, I made two 8 inch ninja's fighting each other with flitting scarves, it took way beyond the alloted time, beacuse I had to construct their frames with my own materials, tin foil and paper clips, then slowly detail them with the heads of pencils and other things I could think of, same with painting them, it took a long time.. the result? F, I took too long and it was of a violent nature.

speaking of, all male outlets for creativity and learning are heavily punished, as much as schools are Nigger Daycares, they are also women dominate (both students and teachers) hellholes, they more than anything teach women how to abuse social systems for their favor and teaches them that they can do so.
 
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