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It's funny, I was listening to MATI for the first time in a while just a few days ago, and Null had this long digression about how great it is to run over protestors who endanger you by standing in the street. Surely masked goons with guns and body armor swarming all over the road and rounding up people are fair game? We know now that these people can kill citizens and get protection from the president himself, so why shouldn't someone plow through these guys and then turn himself in at a police station?
Null makes me so happy to have irl relationships, interactions with the real world, real global experience while not being a expat parasite and just anything not to do with/be dependent of the internet.

He's still the angry internet addicted little Runescape kid now as he was 20 plus years ago.
 
Always remind them that Orwell was a socialist. Like, bro, do you even Road to Wigan Pier?
100% of people I've came across IRL that goes Orwell this and Orwell that never read any of the books they're claiming to cite.

They’re not??
It depends. They can be permanent.
The Janny giving the triangle can determine its duration. Typically it's 3 months but there's nothing stopping the Janny from making it 9999 months.

What’s the point then?
It's to shame them into becoming normal users but it doesn't work most of the time. When I first joined the site, some of the garbage cringe I posted totally deserved the triangle, if not a few of them. I still remember doxing a Chinese owned vacation ranch because they were caught abusing native wildlife on AN and following up with a "it would be a shame if...". That landed an alogging warning.
Well, now such behaviour is tolerated.
 
100% of people I've came across IRL that goes Orwell this and Orwell that never read any of the books they're claiming to cite.


It depends. They can be permanent.
The Janny giving the triangle can determine its duration. Typically it's 3 months but there's nothing stopping the Janny from making it 9999 months.


It's to shame them into becoming normal users but it doesn't work most of the time. When I first joined the site, some of the garbage cringe I posted totally deserved the triangle, if not a few of them. I still remember doxing a Chinese owned vacation ranch because they were caught abusing native wildlife on AN and following up with a "it would be a shame if...". That landed an alogging warning.
Well, now such behaviour is tolerated.
It’s crazy to see what this site was vs what it’s becoming.
 
It’s crazy to see what this site was vs what it’s becoming.
you mustn't have been paying attention, its been this way since at least the '24 election, and null said it's been like this since they came back from cloudflare dropping them. all the kool kids leaving and being replaced by guys like Welper.

It was way better in 2017 or 2018. I was able to get into rational discussions with people I didn't agree with without them losing their shit the way they do now.
there was still an obvious hivemind, its crazy reading through the Dick Masterson thread and anyone that didn't suck him off was banned.
Meanwhile, it sounds like pretty much all the oil companies Trump tried talking to today said some variation of "nah thanks" to the prospect of dumping billions into Venezuela.
maybe i'm retarded but wouldn't it be the obvious move to at least go to the oil companies and go "we're thinking of dropping sanctions and getting oil deals from this list of countries, how much would it cost and what guarantees would you need if we did?" and when the list leaks because it has numerous options trump can play dumb but at least he'd have proof that it might be a net positive.

Sounds like Trump's going to start his own company and Trump Gas will have a monopoly in Venezuela
 
i feel like some people are conflating or replacing your average republican with the entire republican party exclusively being groypers

It doesn't help that more and more extremist right wing KF members keep fucking the reputation up.

Years ago before 2020 it wasn't this extreme.

there was still an obvious hivemind, its crazy reading through the Dick Masterson thread and anyone that didn't suck him off was banned.

Yeah, but it's worse now than it was 10 years ago.
 
Null makes me so happy to have irl relationships, interactions with the real world, real global experience while not being a expat parasite and just anything not to do with/be dependent of the internet.

He's still the angry internet addicted little Runescape kid now as he was 20 plus years ago.
As someone coming from the Synthetic Man threads, it's the same with anyone with those ghoulish views. They have absolutely nothing positive going on in their lives whether that be with relationships, careers or any sort of meaningful experiences outside of a small bubble whether that be a backwater shithole or the same four walls of their room every day. So they dedicate themselves to the online space and become more and more detached with reality and their humanity over time to the point that they cheer on the violent death of a mother who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
It doesn't help that more and more extremist right wing KF members keep fucking the reputation up.

Years ago before 2020 it wasn't this extreme.
most of the blame squarely falls on Null. he bans people for wrongthink, its a big reason why Android Raptor got banned. meanwhile someone like Toji can literally be caught in a known pedo's account/discord and nothing happens.

Null has proudly banned people for mocking such wonderful people like Nick Rekeita, Destiny, Andy Warski, and dick masterson. But thats because the users were shittalking them before Null gave the ok.

ssj_ness was another big casualty of not being in line with Null and the rest of the forum. the forum keeps being more and more right wing because anyone that disagrees with the right wing is more likely to be banned and it leads to a downward spiral.

Look at how Null freaks the fuck out about random bullshit, if you're not the type of guy that's into worshipping fat retards, then you end up banned because you disagreed with null on the subject of cheese.

Null and Trump have such huge similarities that it makes sense for this place to become /r/The_donald

This place and its userbase acts this way because Null cultivates the userbase. I'll keep saying it Welper is Null's ideal kiwifarms user
As someone coming from the Synthetic Man threads, it's the same with anyone with those ghoulish views. They have absolutely nothing positive going on in their lives whether that be with relationships, careers or any sort of meaningful experiences outside of a small bubble whether that be a backwater shithole or the same four walls of their room every day. So they dedicate themselves to the online space and become more and more detached with reality and their humanity over time to the point that they cheer on the violent death of a mother who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
its hilarious how much of a spiteful, mean, fat little boy Null is deep down inside and then he has the gall to say he's poly
Trump would have to subsidize the Venezuelan oil industry (or whoever is daring enough to try investing there) to help prop up a project that would hurt the US oil industry.

Which wouldn't make a ton of sense if the ultimate goal was supposed to be some great payoff to help enrich the US.
except its not meant to enrich the US, its meant to enrich his buddies. its like how giving israel billions of dollars doesn't make sense, you're not thinking of the big picture. its kickbacks. its like the section 8 housing Trump got his start with, the goal isn't to make a profit, its to bilk money from the government. the actual retards in these apartments barely pay rent but the government's portion is usually enough to make it profitable so it doesn't matter to these slum lords how shitty the tenants or apartments themselves become.

Trump just wants to subsidize the oil industry in hopes that the companies taking the money then give some money back to whatever organizations trump owns.
 
KF's main userbase are Redditors who like to say nigger.

They think it's badass but they look like tryhard edgy 14 year olds.

You know they have to be 20 and older lol.
Yeah, that is a bit of a myth. Brother married an Indonesian, 3 mates married to Asians (2 Vietnamese and 1 Korean). Asian women may appear to be traditional and submissive at first glance but these women have all of these blokes (including my brother) so thoroughly under the thumb it is embarrassing. I know there are going to be exceptions but what I've seen firsthand from Western Male/Asian Female relationships where the woman didn't grow up in a Western country is that the bloke ends up being Tiger Mothered into passive submission, these guys do not end up as kings of their own castles, they end up unwitting passive housepets.

I'm pretty sure it depends on the countries.
 
100% of people I've came across IRL that goes Orwell this and Orwell that never read any of the books they're claiming to cite.

It's a shame because he was a pretty good writer, it's not his fault that 1984 got memed into an all-purpose strawman that absolute fucking retards invoke to criticize people they disagree with in ways that almost never refer to anything actually found within its pages. Like our buddy here criticizing "incongruous thoughts" because he cant figure out that someone can be both dumb and malicious.

Though I will say, the two minutes' hate is quite similar to how miggers get hyped up over brand new ragebait every 3 days and use it to signal their devotion to whatever the orange nigger says.

Also, for all the migger talk of how evil the left are for gravedancing Charlie, I perused the Ryan Carson thread last night and miggers had no problem laughing like hyenas over a soyboy SJW getting stabbed needlessly by a jogger and bleeding out on the shit stained streets of New York City, and this happened before the Kirkening
Honestly that dude was a moron for not just calling an uber that deep in bed stuy at 4 am. Like that part is sketchy as hell
 
ssj_ness was another big casualty of not being in line with Null and the rest of the forum.
Wait, could you elaborate on this part? I never saw him make a post where he wasn’t blaming “woke” for every minor inconvenience in his life, so I would’ve thought he would have been the poster boy for the site’s target audience. Did he get caught not trvsting the plqn™ hard enough or something?
 
This place and its userbase acts this way because Null cultivates the userbase
To be fair, a lot of the far right members joined after a couple of others sites purged their conservative members/shut down entirely. So the farms got culturally enriched by far right retards who have slowly taken over like the brown immigrants they fear so much.
 
pretty much, he said something about children that Null said countless times on MATI or twitter but it got taken out of context so the rest of them attacked him and he got the boot. it was very much like this

https://youtube.com/watch?v=w2u2CiqWsuw
That’s actually hilarious, poetic even: sounds like he became a victim of his own hivemind mentality.

This is always the fate of people who fall for these cult-like ideologies: their loyalty is never rewarded, and the minute they step out of line (even accidentally, based on how his situation sounds) they’re discarded like a used condom. You’d think these people would learn from the countless examples of this throughout history, but I guess if they were capable of that level of self-reflection, they wouldn’t be miggers in the first place.

Oh well, rip bozo lmao.
 
That’s actually hilarious, poetic even: sounds like he became a victim of his own hivemind mentality.

And this is why hiveminds are dangerous.

This is always the fate of people who fall for these cult-like ideologies: their loyalty is never rewarded, and the minute they step out of line (even accidentally, based on how his situation sounds) they’re discarded like a used condom.

That's what happened to Boxer in Animal Farm. He was loyal to the end and they rewarded him by selling him to get turned into glue when he got too old and couldn't work.

More people should think about that story.

To be fair, a lot of the far right members joined after a couple of others sites purged their conservative members/shut down entirely. So the farms got culturally enriched by far right retards who have slowly taken over like the brown immigrants they fear so much.

Imagine being such an utter tard online that you actually get kicked out of popular places and having to all flood Kiwifarms to became an even more aggressive tard who can't accept disagreeing views.

Instead of being like, "hey, having extreme views where I need to fight everyone instead of being polite and trying to be civil, they're the ones clearly in the wrong."

If you can't even try to find some kind of agreement with people, you have a severe personality problem.

Look at how Null freaks the fuck out about random bullshit, if you're not the type of guy that's into worshipping fat retards, then you end up banned because you disagreed with null on the subject of cheese.

This reminds me of the time I had people jumping on my ass because I said saturated fats are bad for you, lmao. Apparently all those doctors...the ones I constantly had tell me not to eat saturated fats...they were all lying but the people on Kiwifarms, they're the right ones because RFK said so, and I guess RFK knows more than people who went to medical school, lol.

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Holy Christ, I feel like I'm talking to a retarded brick wall, lol. It's the same repeated old tired lie every...single...time. Can we make a bingo game out of this?
 
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That's the thing. There is this sad, lonely undercurrent of desperation and failure on all of these people going full culture warrior, devouring whatever grifter slop there is. It is addicting to always be angry and raging at the void when your life is meaningless. We all know that if this place is shut down, at least a few of the A&N cunts will off themselves, as this is their only interaction with the world.
Just look at the OPs for the Synthetic Man and Synthcels (his fans) threads and you'll see things like divorced parents, NEETism, crushing loneliness, college degrees going nowhere, one Synthcel sleeping in his car 6 out of 7 days of the week for work etc. and contrast that with them being ballsdeep in the culture war as their main "political" issue, the only way they can get any feedback from the void, over more pressing issues that normal people face like lack of access to healthcare, rising cost of living or degrading infrastructure.
 
ssj_ness was another big casualty of not being in line with Null and the rest of the forum. the forum keeps being more and more right wing because anyone that disagrees with the right wing is more likely to be banned and it leads to a downward spiral.
Mate do you really think Ness got banned because he wasn't right-wing enough? The reason he got banned was made pretty clear.
 
The Migger community on kiwifarms is filled with lolcows.
They have:
- a disconnect from sense perception to the point they can watch a video clearly showing a thing and say the opposite happened
- they worship social media influencers who lie to their face every day and obviously hold them in complete contempt
- zero self awareness. they will openly describe their methods of being bad faith and lying about their views and claim their opponents, who are obviously not doing that, are engaging in that behaviour. this is caused by their lack of ability to form a theory of mind, thinking everyone is like them and thus they don't understand how much they reveal about themselves
- obsessively downvote people on kiwifarms where downvotes don't hide post, but highlight them. when you point that out, they will claim you are obsessed with votes, with again zero self awareness.
Look at these posts and the ratings:
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So it was the Migger who paid such close attention to the ratings initially, he literally said so.
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And yet: "the other side obsesses over ratings"
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For comparison, this is a purely observational post I made, just describing the facts of what you can see with your eyes. Mass downvotes with not a single person being capable of articulating anything objectionable about it. It's obvious that they are spamming negrates for some obscure reason, and they do it consistently. It's part of their culture. Yet they deny even that obvious reality.
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If leftists were behaving this way anywhere on the internet, there would be a 20,000 page thread about them. but here these creatures are protected by the moderation. Seriously, go in there and post basic factual things, you will get dozens of people insulting you and eventually get threadbanned for derailing if you respond to even one in five of them, while the people heckling you continue to act that way across the site without issues.


Any sane person should be able to notice that there's something slightly fucked about Erika and her behavior.
Oh boy I wanted to write a post about that for a while, but I don't know where to put it. The Kirks and TPUSA are worthy of a discussion.


All in all, MIGGAS sound no different from Russian Z patriots back in 2022.
Miggers are quite literally the exact same as Z-patriots, or vatniks. They have the exact same mindset and cognitive failures, the only differences are ones resulting from differences in cultural context.


I have a soft spot for null but he's been hyper focused and retarded lately on people who are brown. Plus he and metokur are starting to go full blown boomer now with their political sperging. To the point I stopped watching metokur streams and mati. I'm just glad null is at least a free speech absolutist so we can talk shit freely and be edgy leftist without having to be woke scolded by unemployed Twitter types for suggesting that maga niggers should be dragged behind trucks and decapitated by culverts.
I think Null's issue is that he passively absorbs most of his views from his environment, and since his environment is the "retarded right", he builds up a lot of garbage. He also doesn't seem to have anyone who openly tells him when he's full of shit who he listens to. His racism spergery is getting out of hand, and IIRC he recently said in a stream that you should lie to people to you disagree with. Principles reserves seems to be running low in the face of ragebait and embracing political hedonism (which is what this MAGA/ragebait/botslop/LARPsphere[sit down LIBERAL, we are THE POWER now! The ADULTS are back!] is IMO).
I think he also suffers from a lack of "blood and soil". No kin, no place he has an emotional connection to, not integrated into local IRL social groups. This is obv speculation since I don't know about his life, but it would explain why he is so laser focused on cold, sterile "race". It fulfills (not really) that role form some people lacking organic connections.


Trump getting told no by the oil execs is kinda funny ngl.

when even the big oil corpos are pussyfooting around it you know you fucked up. but keep winning bozos.
It's because Trump fundamentally is mentally retarded, and also a malignant narcissist, which is why he will not take advice from anyone and will purge anyone from his orbit who contradicts him.
Trump knows nothing about and doesn't understand economics, the way the government works, geopolitics, international trade, etc.

The only people in his administration are grifters who want to enrich themselves and power trip, or people who use him for their own ends.

Venezuela for example was most likely Rubio and Miller cooperating to deceive Trump into greenlighting a strike with the promise of oil, since Trump has a strange obsession with "raw earths" as he calls them. Miller is IMO an animalistic sociopath who gets an erection from exercising power, which is why he supports any use of force against anyone, both domestically and abroad. Rubio wants to topple the Cuban government, and Maduro was an essential pillar of it.
The new order in Venezuela isn't conducive towards economic development because neither Rubio nor Miller care about that.
An interesting aspect is the corruption fund that Trump announced. He will personally allocate money generated from oil sales towards American companies.
I couldn't have dreamed of such a vehicle for political corruption. American tax payers fund the security and day to day operations, while the profits go into the pockets of Trump and his cronies.


What's particularly funny is that they allagedly had to exclude the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, who has one of the most sensitive positions in the administration, from it, because prior to her getting this role she was supporting Russia against NATO, China against Japan, and Iran and Assadist Syria against the United States. She openly said she gets her news from a Russian propaganda outlet for foreign consumption. They probably thought she would leak information or something, and they may have been right. What a shambles. Traitors all around.


The reality is that it has nothing to do with security, nor even about mineral wealth. Its obviously about the ego of one dementia ridden con-artist who wants to posses everything he sees. He is such a petty swine.
The Greenland thing is pushed by Vance, whose project is to strip the United States of all its allies, because he is brainbroken by twitter. He reads all that ragebait garbage and has developed a pathological hatred for the EU and NATO as a result.
Him and Miller are working full time towards goals that are weakening and impoverishing the United States due to their disordered personalities.

As others have said, there is no imaginable benefit for the US from acquiring Greenland, and doing so will come at a high financial and political cost. Everyone who advocates for this, is an enemy of the United States. There is no ambiguity about it.
People say Trump is lying about the Russian and Chinese ships there, but I'm not sure about that. I think someone is giving him talking points behind the scenes. The Russians being there being a problem is incoherent with his plans to develop the arctic together with the Russians and his genuine view that Putin loves and respects Donald Trump.

The Migger community on kiwifarms is filled with lolcows.
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In order to prove that he is not obsessed with rates, he posted a screenshot of his rates on my profile.
This doesn't show that these people negrate every post they disagree with, it just shows that they think your posts are garbage.
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And you noticing this shows that you obsess over what ratings people give you.
 
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