💼 Careercow Donald J Trump - 45th/47th President of the USA, convicted felon, Epstein bro, Putin/Netanyahu simp, serial liar, sore loser, cheat and the Chris-Chan of Presidents. Lost a war to Iran and algae. THIS IS NOT USPG2.

it's not the place of the united states to go into other countries and fuck with their shit. we're not the world police, and what we're doing with venezuela isn't 'spreading democracy', it's called 'stealing their resources and leaving them with nothing'. maduro isn't a good guy. neither was bin laden. neither was saddam hussein. but nothing got better when we got rid of them, all we ended up with was an extended occupation of a fucking sandbox for over a decade.

the entire world is not the united state's backyard and although miggers initially were against going to war with other countries because 'america first', it's interesting how they changed their tune as soon as 'their guy(tm)' decided it was okay to go into another country, kidnap their president, all without any congressional oversight.

wonder how they would've reacted if a democrat did that...
>meddle in other countries politics and intentionally keeps them destabilized and poor
>implement soft colonialism through language, media and culture to control them
>members of these countries move to the country that are responsible for this (England has many immigrants from India and Nigeria and France has many Algerian immigrants for a reason)
>members of these countries grow to hate the colonialist country
>conservative citizens of colonialist country hate immigrants but support/are indifferent to the destabilization of their countries

I don't know guys. Global politics seems really easy when you're not a greedy, bloodthirsty psychopath.
 
International consensus is a good start.

Maybe someone needed to go in and forcibly remove Maduro, it's very possible. But it was not our unilateral decision to make.
The international community is made up of worthless bureaucrats tbh, they're not going to do anything about King Pedo for the same reason they didn't do anything about Maduro.
 
They stole our refinery assets and then, being commie idiots, basically burned their entire infrastructure to the ground. They have a hugely valuable asset but can't be bothered to maintain refineries, which is why they can't actually sell finished products and have to export their oil to be processed by actually competent nations, losing much of the profit by so doing.
They can't sell the finished or raw products because the US forbade it.
The international community is made up of worthless bureaucrats tbh, they're not going to do anything about King Pedo for the same reason they didn't do anything about Maduro.
I can think of one different reason between them: the US has a bigger military budget than the next ten countries combined.
 
The international community can't agree on anything, half of them were profiting from the actions of the chavistas.
I'm guessing what you're asking for is for all of NATO to approve. Which again, is going to lead to the same problem, the org is too big at this point.
While I don't disagree with any of this, I also can't agree with doing the Team America World Police shit. Maybe there is no good answer, but it sets a bad precedent to just roll into countries and capture their leaders unilaterally.

I don't know what the right answer is, but also I'm some asshole posting on Kiwi Farms and not a political scientist or diplomat.
 
They can't sell the finished or raw products because the US forbade it.

Production also dropped after Venezuela began to be sanctioned because it became extraordinarily difficult to source parts to maintain their infrastructure, much less upgrade any of it. The country also seemed to work hard to drive away foreign (ie Western) laborers and industry experts after sanctions hit, and, afaict, did very little to cooperate with other sanctioned oil/gas producers to develop their assets until very recently.
 
While I don't disagree with any of this, I also can't agree with doing the Team America World Police shit. Maybe there is no good answer, but it sets a bad precedent to just roll into countries and capture their leaders unilaterally.

I don't know what the right answer is, but also I'm some asshole posting on Kiwi Farms and not a political scientist or diplomat.
Welcome to idealism meeting reality.
A lot of international laws and decorum was created at the turn of the century as a lot of aging boomers declared it the end of history.
But that's not the reality we live in, you have to make do with imperfect solution to complex problems. Should sovereignty be ultimate? Ideally, but this will neither be the first nor last time where a national leader gets taken out for unwise decision making.
Sure, some Russophiles might say what they're doing in Ukraine is no different from what the US did with Maduro, but I think most people know deep down these two events are not the same. And even if it was, always remember the first rule of politics
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. Of course, if Bibi is against Sheinbaum being overthrown, Trump isn’t going to do it
"ape does not go against ape" Bibi would get his fellow jews nuking him if they caught him backstabbing another jewish head of state, he's barely hanging on as it is.

I think back to this excellent post from someone who hasn’t been here in a while:
@Bugman's Burden realizing most of A&N is doing their best Null impression on this site to avoid getting banned isn't a new relevation. but he really did phrase it well. its sort of hilarious how much Null hates kiwifarms when a majority of the userbase walks, talks, and acts like him.
There's a thread up since 2021 about the covid vaccine where some sad retards still brag about not being prickled on the arm four years ago.
They've been waiting for the bodies to pile up in the streets for years now, we're going on 5 years since the first people got the jab and its yet to become the AIDs shot they preached on 4chan and in the spartacus letter and everywhere else in 2021. the vax at its worst is as bad as those mercury fillings that were normalized for all of the 20th century.
 
I think this thread could do with a little less complaining about A&N posters. I understand the frustration, but this site has enough infighting as it is.
 
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I guess everyone on the planet is subject to US criminal jurisdiction now.:blart:

Really embracing his mob boss persona:
"If they do not behave, we will carry out a second strike on Venezuela," and reiterated that the US focus is on "getting Venezuela fixed." He added, "We were prepared for a second wave, we were all set to go, but I don’t think we will need it," while maintaining that the option for further action remains open. Describing US involvement, Trump said the United States is effectively "in charge" following Maduro's ousting. He remarked, "Don’t ask me who’s in charge because I’ll give you an answer and it’ll be very controversial.”
 
It really is just the perfect extra layer of final humiliations for the migger movement that Trump ran against the neocons like Dubya's administration for being war hawks and interventionists, and now here we are, with Trump II behaving on the world stage in a way that would make Dick Cheney blush. Sometimes I really think he gets off on just rubbing his supporters' faces into how brazenly he misrepresented himself during campaigns.

At least he hasn't entangled us into a war like Iraq. Yet.
 
Trump II behaving on the world stage in a way that would make Dick Cheney blush. Sometimes I really think he gets off on just rubbing his supporters' faces into how brazenly he misrepresented himself
Conservatives are fascinating: “Get every Venezuelan out of here,” and then some ex-Clinton donor from Manhattan is like, “Actually we gotta subsidize them,” and they go, “Based.”

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Is a guy with money telling me this?” (Y/N) If Y, then your politics liquify on contact with one rich person's opinion.
 
It really is just the perfect extra layer of final humiliations for the migger movement that Trump ran against the neocons like Dubya's administration for being war hawks and interventionists, and now here we are, with Trump II behaving on the world stage in a way that would make Dick Cheney blush. Sometimes I really think he gets off on just rubbing his supporters' faces into how brazenly he misrepresented himself during campaigns.

At least he hasn't entangled us into a war like Iraq. Yet.
If those oil fields are going to be secured, those companies are going to have to hire mercenaries to guard the refineries they have to build. What would really be funny is if they hire Colombian mercs because those guys will double dip and let Chavistas siphon a little bit for extra cash.
 
It really is just the perfect extra layer of final humiliations for the migger movement that Trump ran against the neocons like Dubya's administration for being war hawks and interventionists, and now here we are, with Trump II behaving on the world stage in a way that would make Dick Cheney blush. Sometimes I really think he gets off on just rubbing his supporters' faces into how brazenly he misrepresented himself during campaigns.

At least he hasn't entangled us into a war like Iraq. Yet.
We’re already there with Ukraine and Gaza, we just got started with Venezuela (it’s not going to end well for us), and emboldened with this outcome, he will now start picking more fights with Iran. This is neoconservatism on steroids.
 
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