💤 Inactive Andrew Dobson / Tom Preston / CattyN - STOP DOING SEXIST CRAP

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RockVolnutt dijo:
The thing with Harley/Ivy that everyone forgets, for the comic versions at least, is they're not supposed to be a good relationship (unless you're a hack). Most of the time it comes off as Harley is a sap who clings anyone who shows her affection and Ivy's using as a mook or sometimes Harley also has an ulterior motive. So it's extra dumb to go "Yeah! Lesbian girl power! True love!" to two psychotic women manipulating each other while masquerading it as a relationship.

I wouldn't be surprised if we have threads on people with those kinds of relationships irl.
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I remember somehere that the reason Ivy and Harley are a thing is because as you said Harley clings to anyone that shows her affection and Ivy pities her because she's dealt with so much from so many people including the joker and her family, and she sees her as a convenient helper whenever she gets into shit. They have a pretty good genuine relationship going, but it's not a healthy or very romantic one contrary to what fetishists like Dobson delude themselves into believing.
 
There's also the fact that Dobson shits on things that are popular or things that people are excited for--which at the time, was the animation of TKJ--because he seeks out negative attention.

But because he grew up with TAS, it's the only exception as a good version of Batman. Any other incarnation he didn't grow up with is toxic, violent, and sexist.

Hell, they could animate the scene from one of the comics where the Joker shoots Gordon's second wife as she wanted to protect hostages the Joker had (which were babies). Dobson would only pretend to hate it if it was from the TAS era to appease his SJW cronies, otherwise, he'd defend it because it's what he grew up with.
 
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Count groudon dijo:
I remember somehere that the reason Ivy and Harley are a thing is because as you said Harley clings to anyone that shows her affection and Ivy pities her because she's dealt with so much from so many people including the joker and her family, and she sees her as a convenient helper whenever she gets into shit. They have a pretty good genuine relationship going, but it's not a healthy or very romantic one contrary to what fetishists like Dobson delude themselves into believing.
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as long as he can get lesbians , why care?
 
SteelPlatedHeart dijo:
Pretty sure he just hated The Killing Joke in general, even before they announced it was being animated.
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He hates Alan Moore for no reason at all other than he's just insanely jealous of anyone who has talent or success, seeing as Moore is, if anything, further left than Dobbo and an actual anarchist.
 
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Dodd-Frank ain't exactly been an unambiguous blessing, Dobbykins.

On another note, I don't know if you can describe Alan Moore as "left wing." Alan Moore is so crazy I think he's got his own wing, existing in several parallel dimensions.
 
Alan Moore is such a huge narcissist I'm not sure if he has room for political beliefs outside of himself.
 
Ichimaru Gin dijo:
:offtopic:but, what exactly does Dodd-Frank do?
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It's an enormous piece of legislation (well over 2000 pages) passed in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, intended to reduce the damage inflicted by the sort of shenanigans financial institutions like Lehman Brothers got up to that precipitated the crisis in the first place. I don't pretend to be an expert on it, but as with any gigantic series of laws drafted in the chaos following an enormous crisis, it's had lots of unintended negative consequences, and its positive effects haven't been as profound as expected. My point isn't to say it's a hunk of crap Trump needs to take out back and shoot -- my point is it's *very* complicated, and one can support it or oppose it without being a knave or a fool for taking either position.

Dobson, who like his lolcow-in-arms MovieBlob sees things in childishly simple black and white, of course shrieks like a deflating bicycle tire at the idea someone might scrap legislation the Democrats passed.
 
SteelPlatedHeart dijo:
Pretty sure he just hated The Killing Joke in general, even before they announced it was being animated.
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He bitches about Batman in general since he doesn't like a lot of the writing around the character.

Batman is a lot like early Spiderman, it would be very easy for him to cross that line and become the villain. He's a vigilante using violence to deal with his issues surrounding the death of his parents, and his public persona is just a mask to steer people away from thinking Bruce Wayne is the Bat. As such, the best parts of his rogues gallery all are somewhat twisted reflections of himself. TKJ reveals that the Joker sprang into being from suffering one horrible day, similar to the night Batman's parents were killed being the defining night of Bruce's life, and hinting that Batman could have been the Joker if things had been a little different. And hell, Batman coming to blows with other heroes over ideological differences brings to mind different interpretations of what justice actually is. Batman is the hero who is always toeing that line, and may sometimes cross it in the name of the greater good.

Or because of his paranoia.

From what I've seen, Dobson doesn't like this. He doesn't want Bats to be this character that leaves you questioning whether he's doing the right thing, he wants Batman to be the hero you believe in. He likes the simpler versions of the character, with TAS Bats as his personal favorite. Hell, has he ever commented on the Justice League cartoon? Everything that makes Batman so popular, all the work writers like Nolan, Miller and Moore have done to examine what makes the SOB work, that's wrong because it makes Batman evil in Dobson's book.

The guy can only handle some basic level versions of morality. Anything above Good Guys and Bad Guys is completely outside of his grasp.
 
Kamen Rider Black RX dijo:
He bitches about Batman in general since he doesn't like a lot of the writing around the character.

Batman is a lot like early Spiderman, it would be very easy for him to cross that line and become the villain. He's a vigilante using violence to deal with his issues surrounding the death of his parents, and his public persona is just a mask to steer people away from thinking Bruce Wayne is the Bat. As such, the best parts of his rogues gallery all are somewhat twisted reflections of himself. TKJ reveals that the Joker sprang into being from suffering one horrible day, similar to the night Batman's parents were killed being the defining night of Bruce's life, and hinting that Batman could have been the Joker if things had been a little different. And hell, Batman coming to blows with other heroes over ideological differences brings to mind different interpretations of what justice actually is. Batman is the hero who is always toeing that line, and may sometimes cross it in the name of the greater good.

Or because of his paranoia.

From what I've seen, Dobson doesn't like this. He doesn't want Bats to be this character that leaves you questioning whether he's doing the right thing, he wants Batman to be the hero you believe in. He likes the simpler versions of the character, with TAS Bats as his personal favorite. Hell, has he ever commented on the Justice League cartoon? Everything that makes Batman so popular, all the work writers like Nolan, Miller and Moore have done to examine what makes the SOB work, that's wrong because it makes Batman evil in Dobson's book.

The guy can only handle some basic level versions of morality. Anything above Good Guys and Bad Guys is completely outside of his grasp.
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Hell, there's even a couple of villains who have the exact same background as Bruce Wayne (ritch parents which were tragically killed and left them with a fortune), but because of a few minor differences they ended up taking different paths than Bruce. The whole appeal of Batman is that he's pretty much in the same boat as most of the people he fights, the only real thing that makes him different is that he picked himself up and tried to use his pain as a motivation to do something with himself and even tries to help the people he's fighting rise up from the tragedy in their lives. Batman is essentially the same as most of his enemies, and that's what makes him such an interesting character. Dobson just hates it because as everyone else has said, Bats sometimes falls on the grey area of the spectrum of good, and Dobby being the manchild he is can't stand the idea of rooting for a broken man who struggles with doing the right thing and not a golden child who can do no wrong.
 
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Way to go Dobson. Just keep on shining a spotlight on your juvenile, US-centric worldview that blots out everything else.

Sadly, this is the attitude of absolutely everyone of these SJW assholes. Trump's the worst person and the republicans are the most evil group of people cause they stole christmas or something. Meanwhile, in the middle east, people decapitate children and pose with their severed heads for propaganda videos.
Stay classy, regressive left.
 
Mola Ram dijo:
I don't know if you can describe Alan Moore as "left wing." Alan Moore is so crazy I think he's got his own wing, existing in several parallel dimensions.
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I agree. It's easy for eccentric millionaires to call themselves any title. Moore is a smelly old guy who writes comic books and should just stick to doing that.
 
Kamen Rider Black RX dijo:
He bitches about Batman in general since he doesn't like a lot of the writing around the character.

Batman is a lot like early Spiderman, it would be very easy for him to cross that line and become the villain. He's a vigilante using violence to deal with his issues surrounding the death of his parents, and his public persona is just a mask to steer people away from thinking Bruce Wayne is the Bat. As such, the best parts of his rogues gallery all are somewhat twisted reflections of himself. TKJ reveals that the Joker sprang into being from suffering one horrible day, similar to the night Batman's parents were killed being the defining night of Bruce's life, and hinting that Batman could have been the Joker if things had been a little different. And hell, Batman coming to blows with other heroes over ideological differences brings to mind different interpretations of what justice actually is. Batman is the hero who is always toeing that line, and may sometimes cross it in the name of the greater good.

Or because of his paranoia.

From what I've seen, Dobson doesn't like this. He doesn't want Bats to be this character that leaves you questioning whether he's doing the right thing, he wants Batman to be the hero you believe in. He likes the simpler versions of the character, with TAS Bats as his personal favorite. Hell, has he ever commented on the Justice League cartoon? Everything that makes Batman so popular, all the work writers like Nolan, Miller and Moore have done to examine what makes the SOB work, that's wrong because it makes Batman evil in Dobson's book.

The guy can only handle some basic level versions of morality. Anything above Good Guys and Bad Guys is completely outside of his grasp.
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And even then, Dobson can barely grasp that morality. At this point, why not just make everyone the bad guy? He already does it to anyone he disagrees with and even himself.
 
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