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Should be a wild four years.

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All of the women in the photo were models for a sun tanning lotion at a photoshoot for a mar a lago event. All of them over the age of 20.
He should sue like hell for defamation on this, doesn't get much worse.

Oh, and watch this at your own risk, I couldn't take much of it. Very very sad. I can't download this, but here's the X link to Scott Adams making a video today.
 
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A YouTuber presents a theory that the rise of Donald J Trump can be attributed to one singular event:

Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka banning Hentai weebs from SA

How Banning Hentai From A Comedy Forum Changed The World
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jw7SpzaYSnY
"Bolt Vanderhuge...now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time."

He did leave out the part where Lowtax's right hand man Zach "Elpintogrande" Parsons banned use of the word "nigger" causing a bunch of racist and WN types to flood the internet, becoming a significant portion of the DNA of SA offsite SASS and it's numerous spinoffs (something I know from personal experience...) and being a huge booster of the Alt Right movement.

Still a pause is a win for now as Jeb's real goal is just to be a little cunt and cause as much trouble as he can, hoping beyond hope that one day he can finally cream his panties and issue that arrest order for Trump and watch the whole US justice system burn down around him when SCOTUS has to finally decide once and for all time, if a mid level judge can indeed order the arrest of the President of the United States for the crime of being Orange.
This is absolutely the goal here. They tried to impeach him, they tried to make him ineligible to legally run for office or be on the ballot, they tried to kill him. Now it's the lawfare with death by 1000 cuts of all his initiatives. The goal will be sometime in the next year or two to declare his Presidency illegal and try to have him arrested. Of course, getting military or law enforcement to actually arrest him (and the Secret Service to step back and allow it) seems a bridge to far, but that was the point of the "disobey unlawful orders" video.
 
How has Trump been defamed by the release of these photos? Its sleazy but no laws have been broken.

EDIT: IIRC the Reps did shit like this every week during the Clinton/Lewinski saga.
They 100% knew what they were doing but can hide behind a thin veil of legal deniability that they didn't. I'm getting tired of this technically legal deniability over actions like this.
"Oh we didn't say anything directly, just heavily implied it" should not be a legal defense against defamation anymore
 
They 100% knew what they were doing but can hide behind a thin veil of legal deniability that they didn't. I'm getting tired of this technically legal deniability over actions like this.
"Oh we didn't say anything directly, just heavily implied it" should not be a legal defense against defamation anymore
We both 100% know what they're doing too but it isn't illegal. They release a photo with no comment and you drew your own conclusion.

The public is supposed to know better. That's how this works.

Just seems that calling this 'vile and disturbing' and the boxes over their faces is certainly implying this was an Epstein island situation. I mean he's sued similar and won, IMO.
Implying or suggesting things isn't defamation. The boxes over the faces is easily explained by protecting the identities of innocent people implicated in the Epstein evidence pile. Yes that's bullshit but its enough.

Instead of complaining maybe they could just release it all? That should end it, right? Because this isn't going to stop.
 
We both 100% know what they're doing too but it isn't illegal. They release a photo with no comment and you drew your own conclusion.

The public is supposed to know better. That's how this works.


Implying or suggesting things isn't defamation. The boxes over the faces is easily explained by protecting the identities of innocent people implicated in the Epstein evidence pile. Yes that's bullshit but its enough.

Instead of complaining maybe they could just release it all? That should end it, right? Because this isn't going to stop.
Releasing all the files would solve the constant flood of accusations - that is true. However, that will never happen in our lifetime because:

1. The files have probably been destroyed, relocated, or modified years ago. Two administrations could have released them, but they didn’t. As I said a few months ago, the FBI likely confiscated and burned them the moment Epstein killed himself. Personally, I believe that this is the most likely scenario. It would make no sense for politicians to keep such damaging blackmail when they could just discard and forget it.

2. This is the most unlikely scenario, in that the files are still intact but restricted from release at all costs. Several politicians mentioned that the contents of the files would be enough to destroy the government, and such a statement cannot be denied with the information that we already have. Releasing the files without censorship or any modifications would probably end the entire American experiment very quickly. Though hinged on a merit of truth, this hypothesis is still based on the assumption that the files weren’t destroyed BECAUSE of their damaging material.

Now, let’s broach a more serious question: which one of these gals is hotter?
 
We both 100% know what they're doing too but it isn't illegal. They release a photo with no comment and you drew your own conclusion.

The public is supposed to know better. That's how this works.
How it's supposed to work is that lying charlatans who actively subvert the will of the people get found hanging from trees.
 
3. They get released but conspiracy theorists don’t care and insist that there are more unreleased files because they didn’t see an email from Epstein saying “Trump is my best customer”.
I think that you may be conflating “conspiracy theorists” with “leftists.” Conspiracy theorists will be disappointed that their primary suspects were not on the list, while liberals will screech upon realizing that some Democrats are on the list. Conspiracy theorists may not be very political with their predictions, but liberals are very much so.

I agree that no one will be satisfied when the files are released, because people are expecting certain individuals to be on the list. The conversation of who was included extends well beyond the discussion of Trump. Personally, I can’t say anything for certain, but the issue of Epstein’s activities eclipses party politics and demonstrates a deeper problem that our nation must face.
 
2. This is the most unlikely scenario, in that the files are still intact but restricted from release at all costs. Several politicians mentioned that the contents of the files would be enough to destroy the government, and such a statement cannot be denied with the information that we already have. Releasing the files without censorship or any modifications would probably end the entire American experiment very quickly. Though hinged on a merit of truth, this hypothesis is still based on the assumption that the files weren’t destroyed BECAUSE of their damaging material.
Also, should be highlighted that we know foreign leaders were definitely clients, so the release could cause international problems and potential escalations that make it not worth it. You can't cross them out either as then everyone will say they are hiding Dumph or some other politician.
 
And the account for the house oversight Dems is pulling some bullshit

They posted a link to a Dropbox with 19 pics in it and uploaded some pics that have nothing to do with Epstein, like trump at a miss America pageant with the girls faces censored to make it look bad

What a fucking circus

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If this is accurate then he should sue. Deliberate defamation.
 
Native Americans' got a really fucking rough deal, but they did fight and fight and fight till it got to that point, obviously no one "owns" land forever, so it just is what it is on that part, but the constant fucking with them and taking advantage of them for literally a hundred years of awful shit was no good.

but I do respect that they were such ferocious warriors, they never stood a chance against the sheer tech and numbers might of the Euro's, but they did fucking fight hard, and if one lesson is ever learned from their history with ours, is that invaders cannot be trusted, they'll push up against you and make demands of you, and the moment they have the edge, they will kill and take from you till you have nothing but a square of land left, and if they aren't white, they sure as fuck aren't even going to give you that, this is a lesson that Europe will learn soon enough, the Muslims however, will not give them a token country to squat on, they will enslave or kill every last Euro.
My opinion is that the Trail of Tears might be the worst act ever carried out by the government of this country. Letting women and coloreds have a vote being a close second.
 
Also, should be highlighted that we know foreign leaders were definitely clients, so the release may also cause international problems and potential escalations that make it not worth it. You can't cross them out either as then everyone will say they are hiding Dumph or some other politician.
This has always been my take as well. People always seem to consider “the elite” as movie stars, rich people, and when they do consider politicians on the list, it’s always Americans or maybe an European or two. The idea that the “actual client list” could lead to any political upheaval outside of the “we’ll finally get Drumph” is never considered.
 
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All of the women in the photo were models for a sun tanning lotion at a photoshoot for a mar a lago event, they were also the contestants of the Hawaiian tropic pageant of 1998. All of them over the age of 20.
If we lived in anything remotely resembling a Lord Hitler von Trumpensteinberg dictatorship of any type, the people doing this shit to our Dear Glorious Generalissimo would all be dead, or gulag'd for decades doing hard labor to build Trump Towers and Elon Muskrat tunnels all over the place. Their families would be in prison, their names on the wall of shit stirrers, and purged from history otherwise.

The fact we don't might actually be an L for us, because this is such a brazen attack on decency it makes me feel like I'm being personally attacked for just seeing it.
 
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