Demating Lemmingwiser about various parts of the Charlie Kirk shooting

I am not getting why Egypt would help Israel to unalive Charlie Kirk. I thought they were enemies? And what about the beekeepers? How do they tie in?
I haven't been keeping up with the conspiracy theories, but Egypt's only reason to keep Israel happy RN is the shared border (they don't want refugees from Gaza). There's the Suez Canal, but I don't think traffic has really come back with the houthis still shooting off rockets, and Somalia getting back into piracy.
 
Yeah but isn't Provo one of the main refuelling hubs for international flights?

I don't know about international flights but it is a key refueling center for private and business jets. There's nothing unusual about the plane activity these schizos are fixated on.

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This bitch has no idea what she's talking about. The barometric altimeter is set to reflect the altitude of the local airport they are flying from. The plane was not flying 200 feet above ground like she claims, it was thousands of feet in the air. Everything she says is either wrong or totally uninteresting. Labeling a jetstream style private plane a "military aircraft" because is shuttles around dignitaries is just trying to take very ordinary facts and give them a sinister undertone with verbal trickery.
 
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Hah, I opened a video from Candace this morning and now she is blaming Border Patrol and Britney Spears handlers on Charlie Kirk assination. It's almost like she is working for the other side to deflect blame from the deranged APG who did it.
Make no mistake, no matter what, tyler robinson is going down for this. The confession by text is not contested in the charging documents and therefor takrn as fact.
 
Make no mistake, no matter what, tyler robinson is going down for this. The confession by text is not contested in the charging documents and therefor takrn as fact.
Respectfully, that's just how criminal investigations and trials work, Even if they didn't have his confession or if it gets thrown out during trial, there are many other correlations of guilt they can use to prove he did it beyond reasonable doubt. That's all a jury is looking for, whether a person could reasonably doubt that he did it when considering the evidence presented in trial.

It currently looks very reasonable that Tyler did it.
 
Apparently there's a "Charlie Charlie Kirky" audio that's trending on TikTok right now. How did we lose so badly? For a moment we had the reigns on everything, we were getting people fired for gravdancing but now, it's trending. Now there are no consequences. Nobody cares about Charlie anymore. What kind of sociopathic generation are we raising with Gen Alpha? What happened with the phonebooking site?

Imagine crying this much about controlled opposition who thought your wife or daughter should have been forced at gunpoint to carry a nigger rape baby.
 
Respectfully, that's just how criminal investigations and trials work, Even if they didn't have his confession or if it gets thrown out during trial, there are many other correlations of guilt they can use to prove he did it beyond reasonable doubt. That's all a jury is looking for, whether a person could reasonably doubt that he did it when considering the evidence presented in trial.

It currently looks very reasonable that Tyler did it.
Not sure why you write "respectfully", as if it is counter to what I said. I agree.

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The Martin Luther King case (which btw was also a 30-06 without an exit wound) had someone coming forward 20 years late claiming to be part of the plot and I think 30 years later a jury judged additional people as guilty, including unnamed government agencies.

Last I knew we had basically no info on the ammo, is that still the case?
Correct.

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Erika Kirk has done an interview for the first time where she is on the attack.



Erika Kirk on the warpath.

She forgave the murderer, but not those who are lookijg deeper into the murder.

She stutters into the word judicial and makes it sound like jewdicial.

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I'm really not buying it. She says they are leaving no stone unturned and sending everything they and others find to the authorities and that she wants justice. But she seems angry not just at those that attack her and TPUSA (which is very understandable), but also to those who dig into it at all. I think if it were true that she wanted deeper investigation, even if she's experienced months of aggrevated grief from harassment and such, I'd still think she would feel some level of gratitude to those who dig and don't harass. I think that distinction would have been made much stronger.
 
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Not sure why you write "respectfully", as if it is counter to what I said. I agree.

I don't think charging docs can het thrown out during trial..
I wrote "respectfully" not as a counter to your statement per se, but more as a way to say I respect your discourse on this matter and appreciate the continued research you are doing, even if I don't come to the same conclusions you do. Too many people go right for "no you're a retard and wrong" on stuff like this, especially when conspiracy and official narrative start to blend together.

Your point was that regardless of what extra situational evidence we can uncover, the confession is accepted as fact and that's the foundation of the prosecution's case. My point was that the defense is likely to cast doubt on the confession (since it was presented as a recreation with elipses rather than screenshots of the actual dialog) yet the remaining evidence is likely sturdy enough that it won't matter even if the jury is instructed to ignore the confession itself.

So I agree with your explicit statement but not the contextual implication that he's a patsy or that the confession is the only thing tying him to the crime, hence "respectfully" disagreeing.
 
The fact that Candace called for a debate over this, got her wish for one and then walked out days before it was scheduled to happen should tell you all you need to know
Why do people peddle this? She asked for a debate, they gave an ultimatum for a singular date and time, she agreed and then they pretended like she decided not go because she offered to it by livestream.

People including their own confused mom followers have been asking why it's unacceptable by livestream and they say it would be inauthentic otherwise (which they said while doing their show with 2 hosts by livestream).

The supposed message where Candace declined ended with the text "shall we lock it in"? Does that sound like a refusal?

I'll deliver the chain of interaction so people can make up their own minds:

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wrote "respectfully" not as a counter to your statement per se, but more as a way to say I respect your discourse on this matter and appreciate the continued research you are doing, even if I don't come to the same conclusions you do
Eh it's pretty obvious I was a little overly aggressive on what I believed anyways. I don't mind disagreement, but I was frustrated that I didn't understand the disagreement.

So I agree with your explicit statement but not the contextual implication that he's a patsy or that the confession is the only thing tying him to the crime,
I don't think it's the only thing, I meant it more as a reverse, that you don't even need much more. It is my understanding that you can't get things from the charging doc thrown out later, that his lawyers have to file and injuction/objection in the pre trial and that they haven't done so.

I'm sure they've been posted before, but I'll repost them here.

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Why do people peddle this? She asked for a debate, they gave an ultimatum for a singular date and time, she agreed and then they pretended like she decided not go because she offered to it by livestream
So is she debating them or not then, i think you know the answer to that.

I love retards who have never even been in the same room as a firearm acting like balistic experts.
 
Why do people peddle this? She asked for a debate, they gave an ultimatum for a singular date and time, she agreed and then they pretended like she decided not go because she offered to it by livestream.

People including their own confused mom followers have been asking why it's unacceptable by livestream and they say it would be inauthentic otherwise (which they said while doing their show with 2 hosts by livestream).
Candice is a fucking sperg that should be committed to an asylum. Crazy fucking bitch and jilted lover archetype.
So is she debating them or not then, i think you know the answer to that.

I love retards who have never even been in the same room as a firearm acting like balistic experts.
I saw her reaction to some guntuber on twitter about the 30-06. She is a fucking idiot. Fucking retarded.
 
Debating behind a screen allows for a lot of shenanigans on the side the audience can’t see, like someone feeding you answers. I guess TPUSA have a pattern and formula and want to stick to it without treating anyone favorably even their own.

But when Candace Owens said to Rabbi Shmuley last year in September, the “synagogue of Satan” biblical verse from Revelation 3:9 right to his face on live tv on Piers Morgan? That sealed her fate. It went viral. Israel did NOT like that.

So I understand her hesitancy. You can’t really become a martyr these days when the ones with monolithic control over nearly every glass screen and form of communication can just blame your side for the attack. Like how the left magic’d Tyler Robinson into some sort of right-wing terrorist despite being a Redditor and fucking trannies.

Don’t die for your cause, live a long life annoying the hell out of your foes while enjoying your life. “Live well. That is the greatest revenge.” - The Talmud
 
She asked to lock it in and they responded with "we will proceed without you". I edited my post to share the chain of communication above.
If candace legitimately cared about this situation like you're claiming she does, if she legitimately cared about the truth of Charlie Kirk's assassination then she would have said she'd be there. She can miss one day of grifting, especially because if she proved her claims correct on one of the biggest right wing streams in America she would have gotten much much more money and viewers afterward.
She doesnt give a shit
 
Debating behind a screen allows for a lot of shenanigans on the side the audience can’t see, like someone feeding you answers. I guess TPUSA have a pattern and formula and want to stick to it without treating anyone favorably even their own.

But when Candace Owens said to Rabbi Shmuley last year in September, the “synagogue of Satan” biblical verse from Revelation 3:9 right to his face on live tv on Piers Morgan? That sealed her fate. It went viral. Israel did NOT like that.

So I understand her hesitancy. You can’t really become a martyr these days when the ones with monolithic control over nearly every glass screen and form of communication can just blame your side for the attack. Like how the left magic’d Tyler Robinson into some sort of right-wing terrorist despite being a Redditor and fucking trannies.

Don’t die for your cause, live a long life annoying the hell out of your foes while enjoying your life. “Live well. That is the greatest revenge.” - The Talmud
"Jews". Nigga Charlie died in my state to a sniper with zero jewish heritage. Tyler is still in a cage awaiting his death sentance. You are insane.
...She offered to do so.
They told her to show up on the 15th. She couldn't for some fucking reason unknown to the world.
 
Debating behind a screen allows for a lot of shenanigans on the side the audience can’t see, like someone feeding you answers. I guess TPUSA have a pattern and formula and want to stick to it without treating anyone favorably even their own.

But when Candace Owens said to Rabbi Shmuley last year in September, the “synagogue of Satan” biblical verse from Revelation 3:9 right to his face on live tv on Piers Morgan? That sealed her fate. It went viral. Israel did NOT like that.

So I understand her hesitancy. You can’t really become a martyr these days when the ones with monolithic control over nearly every glass screen and form of communication can just blame your side for the attack. Like how the left magic’d Tyler Robinson into some sort of right-wing terrorist despite being a Redditor and fucking trannies.

Don’t die for your cause, live a long life annoying the hell out of your foes while enjoying your life. “Live well. That is the greatest revenge.” - The Talmud
Dude even if they wanted to assassinate her they are not going to do it at an event where she'd be trying to prove Israel was involved in the assassination of Charlie. That would quite literally prove her right and make her a martyr against Israel
 
Dude even if they wanted to assassinate her they are not going to do it at an event where she'd be trying to prove Israel was involved in the assassination of Charlie. That would quite literally prove her right and make her a martyr against Israel
If your enemies kill you, you win?

I don't think assassination is the main reason anyways. My thought is that she could show up, they have blake neff read a prepared hour long statement on why she's wrong and end the show there.

Adverserial shows typically have some agreement about time to speak and such.

She said on her show that one of the reasons is that her husband is part of her team, that he has overseas guest that day, but that she would beg him to be allowed to come personally if they could make the assurances that she could ask 5 questions, or if erika kirk will be there.
 
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...She offered to do so.
Doesn't care enough about Charlie to show up in person. Seriously Candace quite literally said Charlie came to her in her dreams at one point, and this is the schizo faggot you think has the answers.
If your enemies kill you, you win?
Imagine being so fucking obtuse you don't understand what martyrdom is. If you can find me one logical reason in the slightest why Israel would kill her while she's trying to prove Israel killed Charlie Kirk at an event then be my guest.
 
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