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I don't know that is why i asked.
The answer is, "No." Jeets use AI to code and create abominations that they do not comprehend, for example.
Plenty of students used Wolfram-Alpha before genAI was a thing. It's definitely enough to teach someone else to pass the classes.
If you use Wolfram Alpha to basically do your work to pass the class then you don't necessarily understand the math. It's a good aid though and I think AI is too with a lot of caveats. Wolfram Alpha won't lie to you halfway through a problem and keep going as if nothing happened, for example. LLMs will.

To be on topic though, I don't know if it's worth considering AI a national security issue but it's definitely a force multiplier for the feds and companies are going all in on using it to replace workers and let's be real, a lot of jobs can probably be at least heavily augmented by AI and reduce headcount with the remaining people keeping the AI on task and checking it for mistakes. It is helping push for sane energy solutions like nuclear though so that's nice.
 
Programmers are all awed by AI because they no longer have to look up reference documents or write functions or design systems or basically do their job.
The Jeets at my client's offices all went bugfuck nuts when the various enterprise licenses started including LLM access. Not just the coders (every. single. jeet. devops. was screaming at the top of their lungs about wanting LLM access, fucking IMMEDIATELY) but also marketing, HR, etc.

When this hits critical mass and they don't need the jeets anymore, it's going to be great for the companies as they're already basically running on LLMs with 74 IQ jeets correcting the output... sort of.

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You ever notice how subversion can become a trope in storytelling? Like how 20 years ago it was unique and brave to have a “what if good guys are bad guys” mouthing in your story but now it’s just expected. Like how many times ive seen a fantasy do the subversive tropes of “demons are actually good, church is evil” and other Reddit cliches. Like Im genuinely more surprised when a story doesnt have any of these tropes at this point. Im not sure what you would call this type of writing personally i refer to it as Reddit writing becuase this is the crap that Redditors and video essayist would glaze.
 
I wonder how CompSci college professors can even grade quarterly projects anymore. They'd have to use AI to detect if their students' code was written by AI.
Colleges, depending on the degree, should treat the degree program more like an apprenticeship; AI can't replace the human experience. We need to change the curriculum in public schools too. Middle school to high school, its time to start teaching our kids how to be functional adults with some core classes. Bring back home economics as a mandatory class that you take all 8 years. Sure, learn to cook, sew, maybe garden, but also how to manage and save money properly, file your own taxes, learn the things necessary to navigate adult hood. I don't need to know the quadratic formula off the top of my head it has never once come up outside of high school. :sighduck: It's all so exhausting.
 
I really wish you retards would take the time to learn even a little bit about the Red Sea Crisis and what actually happened before you type this shit. The US navy was not "chased away".
this is no different from third worlders/subhuman somalis flexing killing 10 Americans when our KD was 15:1. By virtue, they admit to being disposable roaches.

When the Soviets were throwing their men in meat grindrs in Stalingrad, they were at least making meaningful gains with American manufactured equipment
 
We need to change the curriculum in public schools too. Middle school to high school, its time to start teaching our kids how to be functional adults with some core classes.
I've been saying this for decades now.
Teach kids skills they will actually use, and for fuck's sake teach foreign languages at elementary level while their little sponge-brains can absorb it!

Someone is benefitting from students being warehoused all day with very little care for what they learn, and I'm thinking it isn't We The People.
 
The Jeets at my client's offices all went bugfuck nuts when the various enterprise licenses started including LLM access. Not just the coders (every. single. jeet. devops. was screaming at the top of their lungs about wanting LLM access, fucking IMMEDIATELY) but also marketing, HR, etc.

When this hits critical mass and they don't need the jeets anymore, it's going to be great for the companies as they're already basically running on LLMs with 74 IQ jeets correcting the output... sort of.

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These Jeets are about to get redeemed.
 
You ever notice how subversion can become a trope in storytelling? Like how 20 years ago it was unique and brave to have a “what if good guys are bad guys” mouthing in your story but now it’s just expected. Like how many times ive seen a fantasy do the subversive tropes of “demons are actually good, church is evil” and other Reddit cliches. Like Im genuinely more surprised when a story doesnt have any of these tropes at this point. Im not sure what you would call this type of writing personally i refer to it as Reddit writing becuase this is the crap that Redditors and video essayist would glaze.
The only recent media I can think of that does the opposite of this is the Frieren anime.

When demons are being slaughtered or on the losing side of a battle they cry out for their mothers.

In that world they're created not born so they don't know what a mother is. They do know that if they prey on human empathy they can distract their attacker long enough to slit their throats.

Kind of like what the entire third world is doing to western nations.

I have no idea if the author intended it be that based in its messaging or if it's accidental.
 
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You ever notice how subversion can become a trope in storytelling? Like how 20 years ago it was unique and brave to have a “what if good guys are bad guys” mouthing in your story but now it’s just expected. Like how many times ive seen a fantasy do the subversive tropes of “demons are actually good, church is evil” and other Reddit cliches. Like Im genuinely more surprised when a story doesnt have any of these tropes at this point. Im not sure what you would call this type of writing personally i refer to it as Reddit writing becuase this is the crap that Redditors and video essayist would glaze.
Yeah, it used to be "subverting expectations" but now that that's become the norm and the only people allowed to get TV and movies produced don't believe in Good or heroism the closest we get is unintentional truths. Lately I've noticed more media where there of course are queer characters because yay queer but then there's a line or scene about how they were molested when they were young that made me go hmm.

The new Stranger Things had that, and a scene where a Black girl drugs and kidnaps a family that plays like it was written by Dilbert Guy. You know that the writers weren't saying "yes, we'll have the bad guy tentacle mouth-rape the kid who ends up gay and then show why you shouldn't let Black people into your house" and were so yay queer BIPOC that they can't see what it looks like to normal people.
 
It would indicate the student can use an LLM to produce things, but it wouldn't indicate the student understood anything the LLM produced.

So I will confess a sin.

I recently got another AS in a tech field. (not coding)

I took a late start online coding class.

*part where I bitch about teacher and format*

I fell to temptation and went to chatgpt.

I will say that I forced gpt to write the code using the functions asked for and for a time I would get 90% done then ask it to fix it.

The result is I really learned nothing.
 
Yeah, it used to be "subverting expectations" but now that that's become the norm and the only people allowed to get TV and movies produced don't believe in Good or heroism the closest we get is unintentional truths. Lately I've noticed more media where there of course are queer characters because yay queer but then there's a line or scene about how they were molested when they were young that made me go hmm.

The new Stranger Things had that, and a scene where a Black girl drugs and kidnaps a family that plays like it was written by Dilbert Guy. You know that the writers weren't saying "yes, we'll have the bad guy tentacle mouth-rape the kid who ends up gay and then show why you shouldn't let Black people into your house" and were so yay queer BIPOC that they can't see what it looks like to normal people.
Same thing with season 2 of Peacemaker. The "Nightmare" world ruled by Nazis is an idyllic, safe, clean and happy place where they happen to hunt down any minorities that aren't in concentration camps, reinforcing that no minorities==no societal ills. Good job!
 
ah, it used to be "subverting expectations" but now that that's become the norm and the only people allowed to get TV and movies produced don't believe in Good or heroism the closest we get is unintentional truths. Lately I've noticed more media where there of course are queer characters because yay queer but then there's a line or scene about how they were molested when they were young that made me go hmm.

The new Stranger Things had that, and a scene where a Black girl drugs and kidnaps a family that plays like it was written by Dilbert Guy. You know that the writers weren't saying "yes, we'll have the bad guy tentacle mouth-rape the kid who ends up gay and then show why you shouldn't let Black people into your house" and were so yay queer BIPOC that they can't see what it looks like to normal people.
I don't believe it's untentional, I still maintain that Chuds got in the Media-Complex when the media-government was hyper focused on eliminating boomer-con politics and the retarded cultural revolution so no one was watching for them to fake it to get in.
 
So I will confess a sin.

I recently got another AS in a tech field. (not coding)

I took a late start online coding class.

*part where I bitch about teacher and format*

I fell to temptation and went to chatgpt.

I will say that I forced gpt to write the code using the functions asked for and for a time I would get 90% done then ask it to fix it.

The result is I really learned nothing.
It makes me think about how everyone talks about how AI is gonna decimate the field of professional art, but a second order effect of this is going to be that way fewer people learn how to make art (no incentive spending the thousands of hours to get good, no jobs anyway once you do, no professional development). I don't really know what the implications of that will be. Seems weird.
 
Yeah, it used to be "subverting expectations" but now that that's become the norm and the only people allowed to get TV and movies produced don't believe in Good or heroism the closest we get is unintentional truths. Lately I've noticed more media where there of course are queer characters because yay queer but then there's a line or scene about how they were molested when they were young that made me go hmm.

The new Stranger Things had that, and a scene where a Black girl drugs and kidnaps a family that plays like it was written by Dilbert Guy. You know that the writers weren't saying "yes, we'll have the bad guy tentacle mouth-rape the kid who ends up gay and then show why you shouldn't let Black people into your house" and were so yay queer BIPOC that they can't see what it looks like to normal people.
Im remind of this becuase recently I decided to play Nehrim an oblivion mod that has a lot of praise to it, and it looked interesting. I was then hit in the face by all the said subversive tropes and other formers of Reddit writing in the story. To say I was disappointed was an understatement. Like there is a group in the story called “light born” and they are “gods” what do you think the big twist involving them is.

Same thing with season 2 of Peacemaker. The "Nightmare" world ruled by Nazis is an idyllic, safe, clean and happy place where they happen to hunt down any minorities that aren't in concentration camps, reinforcing that no minorities==no societal ills. Good job!
So in other words china.
 
You ever notice how subversion can become a trope in storytelling? Like how 20 years ago it was unique and brave to have a “what if good guys are bad guys” mouthing in your story but now it’s just expected. Like how many times ive seen a fantasy do the subversive tropes of “demons are actually good, church is evil” and other Reddit cliches. Like Im genuinely more surprised when a story doesnt have any of these tropes at this point. Im not sure what you would call this type of writing personally i refer to it as Reddit writing becuase this is the crap that Redditors and video essayist would glaze.
Yeah, it used to be "subverting expectations" but now that that's become the norm and the only people allowed to get TV and movies produced don't believe in Good or heroism the closest we get is unintentional truths.
Same thing with season 2 of Peacemaker. The "Nightmare" world ruled by Nazis is an idyllic, safe, clean and happy place where they happen to hunt down any minorities that aren't in concentration camps, reinforcing that no minorities==no societal ills. Good job!
It's frustrating because you know the first studio with good distribution to make a thematically traditional film will destroy the box office, but get harangued by the "critics." Although, watching globohomo writers accidentally create some of the most racist shit ever is highly amusing by itself.
 
What exactly has been done with AI tech that is impressive or indicative of a growth industry in any conceivable way whatsoever?

All I'm seeing is slightly more advanced versions of Siri or Alexa which is neat I guess but not enough to sustain a 5 trillion dollar investment bubble.
They're trying to lock-in the wealth transfer that's been going on for decades. They've tried with illegals, and cheap labor, but that isn't working and is costing them more. I assume AI will be the same way in the long run.

AI is a useful tool, and some artists get smart by training an AI on their art, but the idea that it's going to replace real artists is as sanctimonious as the BlueSky whiners.
Better yet, its going to make people with actual talent, and/or work ethic more sought after. Take a look at hand-made furniture for example, far more expensive than the mass produced stuff you find at stores. A painting done by an actual artist, with actual dedication is worth more than any AI abomination created from other artist's work. The poor will live with AI products, the rich won't.

It would indicate the student can use an LLM to produce things, but it wouldn't indicate the student understood anything the LLM produced. "But does it matter how they made the thing if it works and is useful?" I dunno. That's the big question really in every field that AI touches.
It does matter, because if you know how its supposed to be done, you can catch errors before they become massive problems. A tool can make the job easier, but it can't replace knowing the trade. Unless your comfortable taking the risk that something might fail, and I think we know massive corporations are perfectly fine with the risk.
 
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I've been saying this for decades now.
Teach kids skills they will actually use, and for fuck's sake teach foreign languages at elementary level while their little sponge-brains can absorb it!

Someone is benefitting from students being warehoused all day with very little care for what they learn, and I'm thinking it isn't We The People.
be careful of what you wish for. they'll take this sound advice and teach our kids hindi
 
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