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personal musing about IQ from someone who has been know to be accused of retardation from time to time.

"if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life thinking itself stupid"
Albert Einstein

In an early copy of Marco Polos "The Travels" I have in print that has many sections modern printings do not about his encounters with the Aboriginals of Australia or as he called it at the time "the islands of Java" and he said that

"if you stuck one of the aboriginals across the back with a broad axe with a blow that would send a white man to his grave, not only do you find that he is alive and capable of fighting but tomorrow you can observe that the flesh has mended itself almost anew much the way candle wax or tallow might."

among many fascinating things ive read that has always stuck out to me, as whitemen we have always placed an outsized importance on mental intelligence but are less quick to praise endurance, vitality, and muscle memory as equally genetic baseline yet trainable and improvable aspects of ones measurable ability.

First time I saw Michael Vick play football it clicked for me "Ohh shit, we DO bring vastly different strength sets to the table"

I know im putting pearls before swine with this take IN HERE of all places, just feel like if seal clubbing SOMALIANS of all people for their lack of book smarts just feels like showing off your marksmanship by calling in an airstrike, you arent proving anything other than a misunderstanding of what the situation calls for.

If we are so much smarter why arent we doing better? How did these supposedly homunculous level people manage to subvert the most powerful nations culture? At some level I feel like we have to either take some responsibility for the state of things or admit we are as much a pawn in this thing as they are cause this divide and conquer shit just has to stop working, the rich are just laughing themselves silly at us.

"Look darling, even with no prospect of a house or wife they blame eachother instead of the people who keep getting richer. give them a nigger to feel superior over and they dont dare question why they are a slave 1 rank above them"
-Lyndon B Johnson (that rat)
(probably)
 
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Here's a not-so-fun fact about Nelson Mandela. The reason why he was on the FBI's terrorist list until his death in 2008 was that it was rumoured that South Africa had nuclear weapons that could have blown up Europe and even the United States. So another reason why people believe that Mandela died in prison.
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Mandala was an old guy that died in jail in 80s. AVGN started that 'mandela effect' story that I remember.

And SA absolutely had 10-20 low yield fission boosted nukes, when the whites said 'we're out', they and Sweden gave theirs up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_incident Vela's a hush hush (confirmed France/SA/Israel test)
 
MetokurGroomedMe dijo:
i don't, but i'd be interested to know what it is that caused all these waterheads to be sent here in the first place, like did we bomb their country into shit or something?
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To keep things short:
1. In 1969 the president of Somalia was shot dead and a dictator took over in a coup.
2. This dictator established a Marxist-Leninist state and attempted a series of modernization reforms such as: a new writing system, anti-tribalism and nationalization of industries.
3. Somalia became allies with the Soviet Union.
4. The dictator was a pan-Somali nationalist and wanted to take a piece of land from Ethiopia mostly inhabited by ethnic Somalis
5. Somalia invades Ethiopia (who was also communist at this point) and believes the Soviet Union would be okay with this because of past ties and a Friendship Treaty with the USSR signed a few years prior.
6. The USSR does not help Somalia and after failing to mediate the conflict, chooses to back the Ethiopians who are apparently more ideologically motivated.
7. Cuban, Soviet and South Yemeni soldiers arrive and stops Somalia's advance which causes them to ultimately lose the war.
8. A coup is attempted on the Somali dictator which fails but at this point he has lost support from the majority of the population due to being defeated in the conflict.
9. Things continue to spiral out of control, the Somali Civil War begins, entire clans are targeted by the government to be killed.
10. The Somali dictator (who had sought support from the United States and the West since the USSR wasn't exactly helping him anymore) ultimately is ejected in 1991 and a power vacuum is established which no one has successfully filled to this day.
 
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Lol I feel that. At that point, the only fix would be violence, as it would well and truly be the end.

That would suck ass, but also is a very likely third possibility that I did not consider. It would be borderline worthless, as I guarantee that every progressive state would just lie and forge documents anyways. This is a problem that needs a very heavy handed political response to solve; refusing to do so is almost as bad as doing nothing. I am thoroughly prepared to be disappointed in the future.
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I would say the 4th possible outcome is that SCOTUS does the "citizenship by land is not guaranteed" position but then stipulates that there is no rule that says it can't be guaranteed, and then we're back to the floodgates every time the presidency/Congress turns blue, plus a massive spike of mysteriously old newborns every time we flip back to blue. Of course this all hinges on the assumption that the GOP doesn't default to dignified losing and actually slams the gate closed every time they get control.

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I think you might be able to get enough people convinced if you convert the SS fund into a sovereign wealth fund invested in the market. people paying in + market returns may well be viable.
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Until somebody promises more gibs and we hit a recession or two and tank the system as we overdraw, leading back to square one with the same problem. Half the reason SS doesn't work as is is because we kept increasing who and how much we pay out to get more votes.
 
StudMccool dijo:
If we are so much smarter why arent we doing better? How did these supposedly homunculous level people manage to subvert the most powerful nations culture?
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Because the subversion is coming from within. Giving women the right to vote has had long lasting negative impacts that still aren't fully understood by the average person. The gloop glop people are just tools that exist to drain resources from the american tax payer so that they can spend money on retarded and shitty products.
 
Hello USPG2. I have been busy, so i have been absent. First, lol:
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StudMccool dijo:
they could make this the tagline to the second Trump presidency

Im sure the next radical outsider that wins the popular vote and both other branches of government will finally enact the basic shit we need to stop sliding into the abyss

but if he dosent then he has set all the precedent for the next admin to use the consolidated power of the executive and the dark NGO money

I dont think vance appeals to broader lower class america, Appalachia Rust Belt, those people. I think most vets seem him as a POG and he married outside his race.

Trump dident win this election cause he was the best politician, he won beacuse the previous one was absolutely horrendous for the average American, if they don't start improving the genuine quality of life outside of a few cites then all the dems will need to campaign on is "we arent the current admin"

@Fatpacks vastly oversimplifys and overly predicts failure but by and large he is kinda right, Trump is welching on almost all major "promises" and spends most his time rebuilding shit, playing golf, tweeting, and doing award ceremonies and shit.

HELLO, MISTAA TRUMP?
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stop going to fucking shit like the world cup selection and send marine divisions into haciendas. we are fucking around with boats with a county that only imports COCAINE, does anyone else care about this or are we just vibe politicking?
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Holy shit you got drunk last night.
Fount of BadSpeak dijo:
How? I do not see any politically realistic way that would ever happen. Half of the Democrat platform is based off of infinity welfare, and Republicans know that too much of their voterbase is full of welfare recipients to have the balls to push for anything like that. The SCOTUS making a drastic ruling (which I do not think they will do) is really one of the few realistic avenues for sweeping change that you can expect under the current political paradigm, and even then, I highly doubt the feds have the political will to enforce it. Progressives openly ignore multiple Court rulings, specifically around firearms, and the feds refuse to punish them because most of the fed agrees with the states' firearm prohibitions. It would be a start, but there would still be a lot of work to do.

If you could just wave a wand and implement the necessary changes, then we wouldn't be in this scenario to begin with. Unfortunately, the system has been sufficiently corrupted to the point that it is unlikely to be fixed by its own mechanisms. This is why I am more or less convinced that a political solution is no longer possible.
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If it is truly over, i guess we should all just bend over and die. Doomers deserve the cross.
 
WelperHelper99 dijo:
If it is truly over, i guess we should all just bend over and die. Doomers deserve the cross.
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this is where the doomers go, same as it always was.

on a serious note, my questions to others about the state of democracy within the US has continued to result in a resounding ONE supporter of democracy. i have asked 24 people, and only one person has actually said democracy is both instituted and functional within america. every single other person has had various complaints about it. unsurprisingly if you've been paying attention to the world, the one who thinks it's working just fine is a liberal. he voted kamala, and genuinely thought trump was going to fire him, and that his co-workers were all going to start beating him up in the hallways because he's a faggot.

literally nothing has changed. he still has his job, doge didn't cut his position, and he's continued to be a faggot. the biggest faggotry of all is his opinion that democracy works, and in the same conversation talk about how evil trump and everyone who voted for him are. it's actually shocking that only one person has done so. i thought for sure my leftie acquaintances would think democracy was the best thing ever, but all of them were of the opinion that something allowing drumpf to get elected was a failure, and that there would have to be major overhauls to the system in a leftist government.

my rightoid friends all just have various flavors of monarchist, fascist, or autocratic ideas for the way the country should be governed, and most of them are outright sick of democracy allowing people like the democrats to continue getting into power and allowing situations like the border crisis (that one came up a lot). some interesting anecdotal data there for anyone who cares.
 
StudMccool dijo:
If we are so much smarter why arent we doing better? How did these supposedly homunculous level people manage to subvert the most powerful nations culture? At some level I feel like we have to either take some responsibility for the state of things or admit we are as much a pawn in this thing as they are cause this divide and conquer shit just has to stop working, the rich are just laughing themselves silly at us.
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I ve meditated on this as well. I think issue is a fundamental misunderstanding of what is normal.

I would recomend you read this book


also if you want a better understanding of left issues


So its not pure intelligence, its a culture and a system by system I mean the way we organize eachother. The more direct term for how we organize eachother is "institutions"

If you read the above book whose thesis I like. Its not about being white or brown, its about house the culture is organised. Tribal culture depends on blood lines and kinship ties, you go to some shit hole country to give them the institution of democracy and they will just vote along tribal lines, meaning meritocracy doesnt matter. Nepotism and rule of strengh are all that matter.

The ending of cousin marriage and the lutherin pushing of literacy as a way to practise religion changed the western mind and as the family structures, and mind set change the institutions evolved with it. Nation states with citizenship are really only what about 300 years old ?

But the result of western insititions is that we can grow more wheat, we can treat illness, we try to have a justice system that does try to be fair in a sense that can work outside of kinship lines

This allows up to be more productive

So imagine we have a none western minded group like say gypies or abbos or people from a culture that is more ingroup focused. They arent gonna fucking go live in dirty poverty on a reservation they are gonna come into the productive community and get shit.

Go read this book about indian rading parties


fuck this guy gives you highlights about the book

about five minutes in listen to what those savages did

 
MetokurGroomedMe dijo:
this is where the doomers go, same as it always was.
Your New Home.mp4

on a serious note, my questions to others about the state of democracy within the US has continued to result in a resounding ONE supporter of democracy. i have asked 24 people, and only one person has actually said democracy is both instituted and functional within america. every single other person has had various complaints about it. unsurprisingly if you've been paying attention to the world, the one who thinks it's working just fine is a liberal. he voted kamala, and genuinely thought trump was going to fire him, and that his co-workers were all going to start beating him up in the hallways because he's a faggot.

literally nothing has changed. he still has his job, doge didn't cut his position, and he's continued to be a faggot. the biggest faggotry of all is his opinion that democracy works, and in the same conversation talk about how evil trump and everyone who voted for him are. it's actually shocking that only one person has done so. i thought for sure my leftie acquaintances would think democracy was the best thing ever, but all of them were of the opinion that something allowing drumpf to get elected was a failure, and that there would have to be major overhauls to the system in a leftist government.

my rightoid friends all just have various flavors of monarchist, fascist, or autocratic ideas for the way the country should be governed, and most of them are outright sick of democracy allowing people like the democrats to continue getting into power and allowing situations like the border crisis (that one came up a lot). some interesting anecdotal data there for anyone who cares.
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I support our constitunal republic out of spite. The system has lasted 249 years, and outlasted all of E*ropes worthless governments. Clearly its something worth fighting for.
 
WelperHelper99 dijo:
I support our constitunal republic out of spite. The system has lasted 249 years, and outlasted all of E*ropes worthless governments. Clearly its something worth fighting for.
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Fun fact, this is why all of the intelligence agencies vastly overhire Mormons. They literally worship the government.
 
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