Unpopular trans-related opinions

Also my own overall unpopular opinion about transgender people is I don't care if people are transgender, so long as they did not transition until after they were an adult. To me there is no such thing as a transgender youth, or a gay kid, or any of that other bullshit.
I think whatever you do behind closed doors and in the privacy of your own home when you're over the legal age is none of my business. I just don't want it thrown in my goddamn face or my kid's faces every time we're out in polite society.
Thankfully when you talk about trans stuff with people irl they tend to also feel this way. Even people you expect to call you a terf for holding these beliefs. The people saying children should take hormones are a very small minority and they're losing what little power they have.
 
Thankfully when you talk about trans stuff with people irl they tend to also feel this way. Even people you expect to call you a terf for holding these beliefs. The people saying children should take hormones are a very small minority and they're losing what little power they have.
If it wasn't for that small minority of fringe idiots, I probably would have ignored the entire transgender fad.
Sorry to call it that but that's what it is, a fad. Kids saying that they are trans or gender fluid or LGBT for the past decade has been the equivalent of pogs in the 90s.
You mean to tell me that the number of people who identify as trans has dropped as hard as it did because of coincidence?
It went from 7% to 3.5% in a mere 2 years. That means that the number of young adults who identified as transgender was halved in 2 years. I don't know what you would call that but I certainly would call it people getting over a fad.
 
If it wasn't for that small minority of fringe idiots, I probably would have ignored the entire transgender fad.
Sorry to call it that but that's what it is, a fad. Kids saying that they are trans or gender fluid or LGBT for the past decade has been the equivalent of pogs in the 90s.
You mean to tell me that the number of people who identify as trans has dropped as hard as it did because of coincidence?
It went from 7% to 3.5% in a mere 2 years. That means that the number of young adults who identified as transgender was halved in 2 years. I don't know what you would call that but I certainly would call it people getting over a fad.
The tranny response to this would be that they're still trans, but are hiding being trans now because Orange Man is president again.
 
I object to troonery being used as a cover for socialist antics. I object to people being forced to eat fruit.

The tranny response to this would be that they're still trans, but are hiding being trans now because Orange Man is president again.
Yet another good reason to vote for Trump.
 
I have two opinions that I'd consider fairly unpopular around here:

1. I genuinely don't care if adults want to cut their dicks off. I think it's a mental illness, but I don't care what people do. If you present as whatever gender you think you're transitioning too, act like it, and pass, I probably won't even fucking notice, and even if I do, I won't give a shit because at least you're trying to seem normal. I'm really not interested in the government trying to eliminate trans people because as with all things the government does, it will simply be overused to then go after whatever next social-outsider they dislike. (Reminder that most of the people on this website are social outsiders)

2. I generally see trans-individuals as victims. They are victims of an attempted (and half-aborted now) new world order. The general idea is to get neurodivergent individuals to castrate themselves and not reproduce, thereby culling 'undesirable' traits from the gene pool under the guise of empowerment and inclusivity. (((They))) push gender-affirming care as a Trojan horse for eugenics 2.0. They target vulnerable, autistic/ADHD kids,, who are more prone to questioning societal norms, with social media propaganda, school, and celebrities.. Puberty blockers / hormones are the weapons, they sterilize, turning personal identity struggles into a self-inflicted demographic reset.
 
I totally forget trans people exist when i'm outside of the internet
I envy you. There are at least three at my local gameshop (and there was another that worked there.) Most don't pass well, and all their voices are not convincing at all, but one almost fooled me; that's when I hate troons the most* - they fucking lie to me and get my hopes up for the briefest of moments that a moderately attractive woman likes the same shit I do, then they rip it away from me because it's actually a man. I hate being lied to.

*aside from the grooming, pedophilia, subplanting and demonizing women, and unprovoked violence against those they disagree with, of course.

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I envy you. There are at least three at my local gameshop (and there was another that worked there.) Most don't pass well, and all their voices are not convincing at all, but one almost fooled me; that's when I hate troons the most* - they fucking lie to me and get my hopes up for the briefest of moments that a moderately attractive woman likes the same shit I do, then they rip it away from me because it's actually a man. I hate being lied to.

*aside from the grooming, pedophilia, subplanting and demonizing women, and unprovoked violence against those they disagree with, of course.

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I mean, don't get me wrong, i have nothing against trannies regarding their personal choices

They can stick a scud missile up their ass if that's what they get off to, so long as they don't bother me. IRL i don't deal with trannies, my line of work is too hard for these kind of people, we only have man and some very tough women

But online i can't avoid them, they get into every niche community and try to make it about themselves

IRL i tend to avoid them because like i said in the thread, hurting their feelings where i live can lead to legal problems
 
I agree with most of these, although I've lost patience for the first one. People who are openly supporting troon shit - in fact, scratch that, specifically the child/youth orientated aspect of it-annoy me because they clearly have done no research on the fucked up medical aspects and are happy to nail their flag to the mast and act superior about something they clearly don't care to know anything about. You see this all the time when people pop up to try to argue with terfs and immediately show themsleves to be totally ignorant of basically everything about it.
I've heard people who rail against terfs go on to say they are against MTFs in sport and child transition is obviously wrong, without realising that absolutely makes them a terf in the orthodoxy. Like it's so fucking lazy and ready to camber up above other people for shit they don't even faintly understand. So I'm pretty done with all the performatively pro troon "ally" shit.
Just be a good friend if you have trans friends and be normal about it. Comes down to "virtue signalling is lame and also sinister if you look closely " age old thing.

I agree re Dylan. That boy was clearly just entering a manic as fuck episode and has been swept away on a sinister corporate wave which he as an individual has little to do with. Bud lite are morons and also bud lite is embarrassingly shit beer and it would be nice if it died.
 
I personally don't have an issue if people want to be trans, I've known a few. They don't bother anybody. I don't really have an informed opinion on if kids should be allowed to transition, I think the big debacles of schools hiding pronoun changes from parents, or if it is necessary to alter a childs body chemistry to suit their preferences is this kind of ideology advancing too rapidly and society not being able to keep up. These things take time to develop and people are leaping all or nothing into it.

Aside from that, when I hear people say "protect trans youth" my preferred takeaway is that children should be protected from abuse. Maybe little Timmy wanting to wear a dress is a phase, maybe it isn't. He shouldn't be beaten over it. Don't lie to yourselves, there are reactionary parents out there that will abuse their kids if they show any sign of being on the spectrum, being gay, or questioning their gender. There's literally schools like Escuela Caribe set up outside of US legal jurisdiction in order to beat and abuse these traits out of teenagers, watch "Kidnapped for Christ" and you'll know what I mean when I say "protect trans youth".

I think a larger problem with the trans community as a whole is the same one with the regular gay community. No one can agree what is and isn't acceptable. So you have regular people that want to transition, the same way people have wanted to do it for decades, mixing in with gooners that want to live out their sexual fantasies judgement free.
You watch Josh's podcast from a few years ago he sounds like a completely different person before he was exposed continously to the worst aspects of this community.

also Sillypoo sucks shhhhhh don't tell anyone!
 
TERFs are not the same lib feminist handmaidens that we dealt with during the 2010s.
Yes, they're even worse. If we don't use tranny lingo, where a terf is any women that slights a tranny, than a terf is a radfem first, trans exclusionary second. They're the main perpetrators of the female tranny double standards. They have no problems seeing male trannies as predatory sex pests, but female trannies? They're all poor little victimized girls, probably the victims of sexual abuse (no) and it's all a trauma response (wrong).

Chiming in with them - that men are the roots of all evil - ignores that they also think men are to blame for female trannies. Who are quite capable of being grown adult sex pests on their own; and would be predatory too, if they had the male faculties for that.

But for unpopular opinons, I think access to, among others, medical drugs is overregulated and elective surgeries shouldn't require mental health screenings.
 
JK Rowling is an insufferable woke twat outside her heroic tervery. She also had an exceptionally middle class background but pretends to have suffered poverty.
I still remember when she was retconning her own characters into being gay and having "intense gay relationships"
I'll never forgive the troons from turning her into a lolcow in the eyes of the public-- what with writing about wizards shitting on the floor and everyone being gay-- to a BASED TERF FREEDOM FIGHTER. It is funny that she riles people up so much when she's basically just as progressive as them.

My own opinion: TERFs who get anal about pronouns when you off-handledly refer to a troon by their preferred pronoun are just as annoying as troons who get anal about it. The word policing is annoying no matter who is doing it.
 
I personally don't have an issue if people want to be trans, I've known a few. They don't bother anybody. I don't really have an informed opinion on if kids should be allowed to transition, I think the big debacles of schools hiding pronoun changes from parents, or if it is necessary to alter a childs body chemistry to suit their preferences is this kind of ideology advancing too rapidly and society not being able to keep up. These things take time to develop and people are leaping all or nothing into it.

Not going to neg rate as this is indeed an unpopular opinion!

But I will argue that medically transitioning (especially children) comes with inherent and unavoidable physiological problems, it’s not a case of forcing an idea too soon on society but a clash with basic biology.

No matter how truly trans-friendly a society is, puberty blockers and cross sex hormones render a child sterile. That is a negative outcome, especially given that the vast majority of trans children, prior to the gender craze, simply grew out of it. Also we don’t know the full side effects of stunting a child’s puberty and giving them cross-sex hormones, but it’s likely to be very bad, including stunted IQ, bone density loss and long-term increased risks of some cancers.

Finally, we lack the ability to actually change sex. Again, this is not a problem with society, but an immutable biological fact: no matter how much society accepts trans people as “who they really are”, all we can do for them physically is help them to visually imitate the opposite sex, often not very realistically.

If (theoretically) it was the least worst option to medically transition true trans children, they would need to be informed honestly of the fact that sex change is utterly impossible, and all they would be getting would be cosmetic procedures, some (like SRS) with very poor success rates.

Aside from that, when I hear people say "protect trans youth" my preferred takeaway is that children should be protected from abuse. Maybe little Timmy wanting to wear a dress is a phase, maybe it isn't. He shouldn't be beaten over it. Don't lie to yourselves, there are reactionary parents out there that will abuse their kids if they show any sign of being on the spectrum, being gay, or questioning their gender. There's literally schools like Escuela Caribe set up outside of US legal jurisdiction in order to beat and abuse these traits out of teenagers, watch "Kidnapped for Christ" and you'll know what I mean when I say "protect trans youth".

This is true in some ways, that transphobic abuse does exist.

The flip side of this is that genuine transphobia is basically a subset of homophobia, and protecting gender non-conforming children from homophobic abuse should cover this.

Remember that some homophobic parents are so revolted by little Timmy liking dresses that they transition their child, because they would rather have a straight daughter than a gay son.

Children should be able to dress however they want, and play with whatever toys they want, without being abused, including manipulation to believe they are the opposite sex.

I think a larger problem with the trans community as a whole is the same one with the regular gay community. No one can agree what is and isn't acceptable. So you have regular people that want to transition, the same way people have wanted to do it for decades, mixing in with gooners that want to live out their sexual fantasies judgement free.
You watch Josh's podcast from a few years ago he sounds like a completely different person before he was exposed continously to the worst aspects of this community.

also Sillypoo sucks shhhhhh don't tell anyone!

Agree with this. If the trans community had listened to the truscum, and had never accepted autogynephiles or non binaries and other trend-hoppers, they would be in a much better position.

Gays had to excise the paedophiles from their community for acceptance, trannies should have cleaned house similarly.

Now, ordinary trans people who don’t bother anyone and just want to live their lives are swept up in the backlash.

Though the difference is, ordinary inoffensive people seem to be the plurality of LGBs, but are a minority of the Ts. I’m recalling that Iranian study showing an extremely high rate of narcissistic personality disorder among troons. Which makes sense, as they are vainly constructing a false self and attempting to make the whole world play along.
 
This is true in some ways, that transphobic abuse does exist.

The flip side of this is that genuine transphobia is basically a subset of homophobia, and protecting gender non-conforming children from homophobic abuse should cover this.

Remember that some homophobic parents are so revolted by little Timmy liking dresses that they transition their child, because they would rather have a straight daughter than a gay son.

Children should be able to dress however they want, and play with whatever toys they want, without being abused, including manipulation to believe they are the opposite sex.
I think you avoided my point entirely by just doing a whataboutism.

A parent that is homophobic in this day and age isn't going to accept a tranny child either, cause in their eyes that's even worse fag shit.

I'm not talking about a facebook dance mom that never got her shot with a daughter, I'm talking about rural and suburban parents who's response to their offspring's gender non-conformity is to abuse or disown them, often using religion to justify it. Disowning especially can be bad because it can send the child down an even worse path in life.

I want you to imagine the kind of self loathing it takes to question your biological sex, and then imagine being told you are evil and a failure for it. It's just going to make shit worse.

Abuse in one corner doesn't justify abuse in another, and I bet you dollars to donuts a lot of these kids end up the way they do as a reaction to what their parents put them through.
 
My own opinion: TERFs who get anal about pronouns when you off-handledly refer to a troon by their preferred pronoun are just as annoying as troons who get anal about it.
I follow terf and gender critical blogs on Tumblr (I know, of all places) and a lot of people will block you if you call them trannies or even troons.

Also I guess my "unpopular" opinion that might be popular is that I wish that "gender critical" was the popularized term than terf.

I guess I agree with "terf" talking points but I'm already personally ostracized from the greater part of it because I'm a Christian woman who believes in a traditional family unit/wants to get married and have kids. Those bitches get vicious if that's the lifestyle you choose for yourself lol.
 
I think you avoided my point entirely by just doing a whataboutism.

A parent that is homophobic in this day and age isn't going to accept a tranny child either, cause in their eyes that's even worse fag shit.

You’ve not understood my reply at all. It wasn’t what aboutery.

I wasn’t even disagreeing with the bulk of your opinion - just saying that transing a child is a common form of homophobic abuse in itself.

The bolded is completely and utterly wrong, and there are many famous examples. It includes Susie Green of Mermaids fame: her husband was horrified that their toddler son was playing with girls toys and wearing girls clothes, so he was transitioned.

This is why one of LGB activists main goals is to protect children: they think childhood transitioning is often anti-gay eugenics.


I'm not talking about a facebook dance mom that never got her shot with a daughter, I'm talking about rural and suburban parents who's response to their offspring's gender non-conformity is to abuse or disown them, often using religion to justify it. Disowning especially can be bad because it can send the child down an even worse path in life.

I want you to imagine the kind of self loathing it takes to question your biological sex, and then imagine being told you are evil and a failure for it. It's just going to make shit worse.

Abuse in one corner doesn't justify abuse in another, and I bet you dollars to donuts a lot of these kids end up the way they do as a reaction to what their parents put them through.

Pointless screed, nobody was disagreeing with you.

You can’t ignore that encouraging girly little boys to transition is a form of homophobic abuse. This can exist at the same time as other abuses like beating and shunning.
 
My unpopular opinion is I don’t get the point of this thread.
On a mainstream level, unpopular opinions about trannies are ones most users here already hold.
So logically, unpopular opinions on a Kiwifarms level are going to be supportive of trannies (or “I don’t mind/care”)
Aka essentially mainstream ones.
It’s circular, and because the pool of possible opinion is too narrow, the only discourse that can come out of it is the usual trite slapfights that crop up in every other thread, like “are pooners as pornsick as trooners or are they poor abuse victims” and “TERF bad” and retarded gender wars.
 
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