US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Europe is so pathetic military wise. They’re are articles about how they have to ignore carbon emissions to re arm their countries. Talking about the carbon “boot print ” Absolutely embarrassing.
 
CIS White Droid dijo:
Can't wait for this to go through only for Russia to invade again the next time we have a Democrat in the White House so they can absorb more "Russian speaking territories" (after flooding them with Russian nationals like they did in Luganda and Donbabwe).
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You better hope trump seizes power permanently. Otherwise everything is fucked.
 
StudMccool dijo:
super super vague approximation to show where new border will be roughly
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Luhansk, DOnetsk and Crimea are given in their entirety, Kherson and Zaporizhia are frozen on the line of contact but almost all fall within Russian hands

here is another good view without labeling, the red in the north will be given back
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That ukrainan held bessarabia has always pissed me off when looking at maps really should go to Moldova or Romania since that land is actually worthless steppe irl would do it good to be turned into a port area for one of the former guys instead of being a barely inhabited stagnant undeveloped area that Ukraine will never invest into because Odessa exists.
 
Breadbassket dijo:
If implemented this would formally make the Russo-Ukrainian War a limited victory for Russia but also preserve Ukraine's sovereignty so I guess that's a good thing for them? Can't really trust Putin but the Ukrainians are running out of soldiers.
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It is a winter war situation. Russia gains some land, but both countries still exist.
 
babyDunk dijo:
I do not think any party here honestly wants conflict.Only retarded left or rightwing Larpers call for war.Not shocking that more often than not, the ones calling for violence are the most sheltered.
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You have deranged leftoids throwing their lives away almost daily trying to fight back against the democratically elected administration and its agenda. Just one page back was some guy who got arrested for planning to kill ICE agents. And you have dem politicians egging it on with the intention of getting them killed. The only reason the democrats have not waged an all put war against this nation months ago is because deep down, if we were all pushed into a full-scale civil conflict like that, they know they'd lose.
 
More AWS-8Q Than You dijo:
This is Democratic politicians calling for sedition in a way that has been phrased to give them legal plausible deniability. I'm sure they had lawyers go over it with a fine tooth comb to make sure it isn't, legally, sedition. Didn't they call out the intel community too? They want Trump to do something dramatic so they can wind up in court, have the court point out that they haven't, legally, called for sedition.

When was the last time any American politicians publicly reminded the American military that they could disobey illegal orders? They're playing a political game of "I'm not touching you," which Leftist shitheads do all the time.
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They are on pretty solid legal ground, they told the military they didn't' have to follow illegal orders. I get Trump going nuclear, he knows the subtext to what they are saying, and so do we.

If i missed something in the video other than "you do not have to follow illegal orders" i'm willign to call myself a retarded fuck.
 
mindlessobserver dijo:
Ukraine won't take it because it gives Russia control over the exit of the Dnieper river. That line needs to include much more of Kherson province on the Ukrainian side in order to be viable. Without that the war will just grind on. Can be sold as a land swap since right now the proposal is Ukraine gives up territory that it still currently controls with nothing in exchange beyond a cease fire.
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Deal great but issue is we are trying to stop a bleed out war.
That Ukraine is losing while being supported by nato.
At least if signed Ukraine can join the European union but not nato.
 
World in Scarlet dijo:
They didn't commit treason, not by any stretch of the imagination.
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You're being obstinate, but I'll settle with you. You're right it's not treason, it's text book sedition. Let see what the punishment is for that.
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A conviction for seditious conspiracy carries severe consequences under federal law. The primary penalty is a maximum prison sentence of up to 20 years. The statute also allows for the imposition of significant fines, which can be up to $250,000 for an individual.
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Ok so maybe we don't hang them, fine. But we should still convict them and throw their asses in federal prison or GITMO for the next 20 years.
 
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