US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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babyDunk dijo:
And what have they been saying for the last 10 months? Look its very clear what they are calling for, so acting obtuse is just dishonest, you can say it is not wise for trump to jump the gun and cry "Sedition!"(i agree) but dont act like everyone should be in some sort of panic.
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The law doesn't operate on implication. It is what it is.
 
Sorry to be so Euro centric today but things from there just keep catching my eye

The germans are conducting a military exercise in urban combat in Berlin right now
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Its just oddly telling, with a full time military of less than 200,000 armed forces Germany could not realistically even hold its own borders if they were under threat let alone send a detachment to another NATO country.

A few months ago the French (the largest military in western Europe, wrap your noodle around that one) wanted to prove they could move a whole heavy tank brigade from France to Romania to simulate an attack from Russia requiring a NATO response and the real kickers were they wanted to do it with NO usa help and in 10 days.

It took them 7 months, and they ultimatley never could get the tanks there beacuse they couldent get across rivers they encountered. Failed Operation called Dacian Spring 2025
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Note the dates on these articles
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Its honestly hard to get the story straight as its so embarrassing but nearest I can tell is they had to postpone the tanks almost 7 months and they are there now but its speculated they needed US Airlift to make it happen. All this for maybe 5,000 troops and their equipment.

And here this Italian source from earlier this month say the entire exercise has been canceled
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So if russia was to invade Europe proper, the largest military in Europe would not be able to get its military to the front in time to stop, perhaps half of europe being consumed without a fight. Lord knows it would take us atleast a month to get division sized army groups together and shipped overseas.

Just slightly concerning, I know most see Russia as a paper tiger but they have well over 1,00,000 battler hardened full time armed forces, Europe, on paper, could front maybe that number but they are all separate, half or more would be defeated in detail before a large army could even form.

So thats why you have German army guys playing around in the sewers like they are going to defend the city not the country.

Anyway sorry for Euro posting, those fuckers just have a 2 for 2 reputation of getting the whole world into a war over dumb bullshit so I try to keep up with their retardation. They are also our only countrymen on this planet so, there is that.
 
pwnest injun dijo:
The law doesn't operate on implication. It is what it is.
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Sure..... sometimes. If i went into elaborate fanfiction about murdering you and your family, and then i added "But in minecraft though!" at the end of my schizoing, what do you think the response from a court would be?(Not a fed post, genuine question)

Sensitive Young Man dijo:
Trump’s Russo-Ukrainian peace plan has been released:
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To long did not read, REJECTED !
 
World in Scarlet dijo:
This is politicians telling soldiers about their legal duty to not obey illegal orders. That is not sedition, or treason, or morally questionable in any way.
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This is Democratic politicians calling for sedition in a way that has been phrased to give them legal plausible deniability. I'm sure they had lawyers go over it with a fine tooth comb to make sure it isn't, legally, sedition. Didn't they call out the intel community too? They want Trump to do something dramatic so they can wind up in court, have the court point out that they haven't, legally, called for sedition.

When was the last time any American politicians publicly reminded the American military that they could disobey illegal orders? They're playing a political game of "I'm not touching you," which Leftist shitheads do all the time.
 
pwnest injun dijo:
That's not levying war. It's just a first step. They would need to go a lot further before it's actual treason. They have to move from "You are required to disobey illegal orders" which is a fact statement, to "Donald Trumps orders are illegal" to "Donald Trump is criminal" to "You must follow our orders to remove the criminal." That's a long fucking walk.
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Mister Fister dijo:
How does it feel to support traitors calling for civil war to keep your slaves?
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I think they are seriously laying the groundwork for actual civil conflict of some sort at this point. I would not be surprised if they made serious moves if they regained control of the White House, or any branch of the government at this point. Thankfully, that isn't likely to happen any time soon (I hope).
 
oh no its pipkun dijo:
key point being illegal, its another police action.
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If Trump has no plans to issue illegal orders, then why is he calling for people to get killed? You do realize how absolutely insane that is, right? He's acting worse than the ragepig himself.
The President of the US is a ragepig off his rocker.
 
More AWS-8Q Than You dijo:
This is Democratic politicians calling for sedition in a way that has been phrased to give them legal plausible deniability. I'm sure they had lawyers go over it with a fine tooth comb to make sure it isn't, legally, sedition. Didn't they call out the intel community too? They want Trump to do something dramatic so they can wind up in court, have the court point out that they haven't, legally, called for sedition.

When was the last time any American politicians publicly reminded the American military that they could disobey illegal orders? They're playing a political game of "I'm not touching you," which Leftist shitheads do all the time.
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Trump should make a video where its jump cuts of him in 20 different suits reminding Americans that the second ammendment is intended for them to kill politicians if they try to subvert the democratic will of the people.
 
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