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I like this wall of text, thank you for actually being sensible and providing information as opposed to sperging the fuck out like many of the people in here did. You changed my opinion on something which rarely happens.
The most important argument against any amnesty position is that Democrats aren't even trying to reach a compromise position. Instead they are spending millions of dollars and thousands of hours attempting to prevent the deportations of convicted criminals and gang members through lies and insincere lawfare.
 
Would be nice, but I doubt it. The Middle East is allergic to peace.

What some are already saying:

ISRAEL'S FM SAYS THE QUIET PART LOUD: WAR WILL RESUME

Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich just turned political leverage into a war guarantee.He claims to have received “ironclad assurances” from Prime Minister Netanyahu that Israel will resume the war in Gaza once Phase 1 of the truce ends - assurances that technically hinge on Hamas failing to disarm or talks collapsing, but that Smotrich is selling as unconditional.In public, he’s framing it as a victory for his hard-right faction: “Our condition is that there is no Hamas.” In practice, that means almost any hiccup - a delayed negotiation, a perceived breach - becomes a green light to restart the offensive.Smotrich reportedly withdrew a resignation threat on January 27 after Netanyahu’s private commitments, a move that cemented his party’s support and signaled to hardliners that the war machine isn’t stopping... just refueling.It’s political semantics with battlefield consequences.The prime minister offered “conditional assurances.”Smotrich heard a promise of total war.
Source: Reuters, ToI, Arab News
I've looked at the sources he cites and none of them say anything like that. Mario is a liar at best and no one fact checks him because they assume that listing sites as sources means he's telling the truth.


'amnesty' for illegal immigration is kind of a bullshit term tbh
Amnesty is just code for cheap workers that can stay
 
The most important argument against any amnesty position is that Democrats aren't even trying to reach a compromise position. Instead they are spending millions of dollars and thousands of hours attempting to prevent the deportations of convicted criminals and gang members through lies and insincere lawfare.
One thing to keep in mind is that I stated this exact problem and why I called it unrealistic. The only aspect in which I changed my position was in regards to the amnesty program itself alongside the legal implications of it pointed out by @Amelia Troonheart.
 
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Meanwhile, Harris continues to fight the leftist rearguard battle against Columbus and the evil whites who created America.
She literally wouldn't be here today (or have the freedom to speak that horseshit from her lying nigger mouth -- either as a nigger or as a woman) without Columbus and those "evil whites."

The feeding hand that keeps getting bitten like this really needs to start slapping back, fucking hard.
 
After Ron Paul lost the 2012 nomination most of the existing Libertarians became kind of disillusioned with the whole thing and we kinda felt like everything was a lost cause, that is until Trump came around. Trump scooped up most of the good natured and smart Libertarians around 2016 or so, he didn't get them all at once, it some people some time to warm up to Trump. It's important to note that with all these Libertarians abandoning schmucks like Gary Johnson in favor Trump it changed the demographic of the Libertarian party. Most of the Libertarians that actually cared about what they believed in were gone leaving only the gay niggers in the party. They pretty much became co-opted by ex-SJW Democrats who were becoming disenfranchised themselves, hence the Diet Democrat attitude the party has today. This is why Libertarians are only concerned with defying Trump no matter the costs or if Trump is actually standing for traditional Libertarian values, the remaining Libertarians don't even know what Libertarian values are and don't understand why their party was founded in the first place.
I think the party is more generally stuck in an oppositional mindset worthy of a Minnesota non-practicing lawyer. In order to justify their existence, they have to be "not the currently-dominant party," which allows you to take sensible positions when the dominant party is crazy, but forces you to go down roads best left un-tread when they aren't.
 
How do you think the Catholics converted Europe? Everyone that wouldn't convert was burned alive.
That's been a few years ago, and as I understand it, the Catholic church has moved into the 21st century. The muzzies still take hostages with the intention of raping the women and girls. They consider the females slaves captured in war and thus rape is approved if not encouraged. They are not civilized.

Fuck you, asshole.
 
why has this country been permanently obsessed with sand "people" conflicts for my entire lifespan? I only want to see 30,000 beaners and jeets getting deported daily. If they can give me those deportation numbers then I'll consider giving a fuck about sandbox wars.
 
I guess by this definition I support amnesty. The "proper punishment" seems like more of a punishment to us taxpayers since we have to finance their stay in a prison that is likely an improvement over whatever 3rd world shithole they originally came from.
Yeah. It seems like people want to lock everybody else up, but don't realize how much it costs. I don't know if group homes with serious supervision could be done for less, but lower cost options to incarceration would be something I'd welcome.
 
what libshits want when they talk about 'amnesty' for illegal immigration isn't amnesty. it's legalisation. they want to do away with the concept of illegal immigration entirely, they want all immigration to be legal. open borders, 'no human is illegal', etc.
What I think is most damaging to Democrats is that there are a lot of people now in their 30's and 40's who experienced, first-hand, US liberals saying they don't want to trans the kids, they don't want to shove gay rights down people's throats, they don't want to take away all guns, they don't want to eliminate borders, and so on, only for the same liberals to promote all of these things less than a decade later. There are a lot of things you can say about the Republicans and all their retarded shenanigans, but at least they aren't trying to use government authority to take your child away, turn him or her into a tranny, hand them off to a state-sanctioned predator, and then reward themselves for the privilege.

All I ever see in opposition to this is fence-sitting ("they're both bad, I want a magic third option to appear from the aether!") or bog-standard Eurotrash mumbo jumbo.
 
What I think is most damaging to Democrats is that there are a lot of people now in their 30's and 40's who experienced, first-hand, US liberals saying they don't want to trans the kids, they don't want to shove gay rights down people's throats, they don't want to take away all guns, they don't want to eliminate borders, and so on, only for the same liberals to promote all of these things less than a decade later.

they really don't understand that it's trivial to make a clip of obama saying he was against gay marriage or biden saying lock up all the dealers etc etc etc, and you can't even blame this on boomers, it's relatively young people making this fuckup
 
What I think is most damaging to Democrats is that there are a lot of people now in their 30's and 40's who experienced, first-hand, US liberals saying they don't want to trans the kids, they don't want to shove gay rights down people's throats, they don't want to take away all guns, they don't want to eliminate borders, and so on, only for the same liberals to promote all of these things less than a decade later. There are a lot of things you can say about the Republicans and all their retarded shenanigans, but at least they aren't trying to use government authority to take your child away, turn him or her into a tranny, hand them off to a state-sanctioned predator, and then reward themselves for the privilege.

All I ever see in opposition to this is fence-sitting ("they're both bad, I want a magic third option to appear from the aether!") or bog-standard Eurotrash mumbo jumbo.
Lying about your true intentions and then enforcing your policies from the top-down with legal force when in positions of power is just the Democrat way of doing things. It works well when it surprises someone for the first time, after that, not so much.
 
why has this country been permanently obsessed with sand "people" conflicts for my entire lifespan? I only want to see 30,000 beaners and jeets getting deported daily. If they can give me those deportation numbers then I'll consider giving a fuck about sandbox wars.
Last I checked, the goal is 3,000 deportations daily. I think we reached a total of 1,200 per day in early June but my memory is iffy.
 
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