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Should be a wild four years.

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Watching Rand Paul and Thomas Massie go full retard has got me wondering, was the Libertarian party always this bad? I first got interested in politics near the end of W's second term and Obama's election. Back then, I would have identified as a Libertarian because I liked the idea of small government, not being the world's police, auditing the Federal Reserve, etc. I remember getting pretty upset at how the Republicans screwed over Ron Paul to try and prop up a couple of awful neocons. That all put me off of politics for a while, especially since around that time I got married and my wife and I started having kids, I really just didn't have the mental space for politics any more. Fast forward to late 2015, I started to get into it again with Trump running and saying a lot of things I wanted to hear. At some point after that I checked into what Libertarians were saying, and it was all about legalizing drugs, open borders (or at the very least importing infinity jeets for the tech sector), and lowering the age of consent, all of which made me embarrassed to have ever said I supported them. That got me wondering, was Libertarianism always this bad and I just never got deep into it enough to notice, or did it go off the rails at some point when I wasn't paying attention?
The Libertarian party used to be a completely different beast, they weren't nearly as idiotic as they are today. Back in the day Libertarians were strong supporters of Immigration Enforcement and strong border security. They believed in sending all the troops in the middle east home and having them actually defend our cities and towns here at home. This is all fundamental Libertarian beliefs as without these beliefs the Libertarian ideals will not work. Yet today you see Libertarians are against having any border, they now want open borders, they are against using the National Guard or military in any way, they claim using them in Portland and Chicago is an attack on our constitution even though the idea of our military at home defending our cities was literally libertarian policy they ran elections on back during the Iraq War.

One thing about the Libertarian party you don't see them talk about today is the fact that the party was founded to reflect and celebrate the views of George Washington, who famously had a very different version of America in his mind when he helped found this country, The Libertarians wanted this version of America, they wouldn't stfu about George Washington. Today you will barely ever hear a libertarian talk about George Washington, their positions are far from the positions Washington had when he was President. Libertarians today are essentially Diet Democrats or even Diet Communists.

After Ron Paul lost the 2012 nomination most of the existing Libertarians became kind of disillusioned with the whole thing and we kinda felt like everything was a lost cause, that is until Trump came around. Trump scooped up most of the good natured and smart Libertarians around 2016 or so, he didn't get them all at once, it some people some time to warm up to Trump. It's important to note that with all these Libertarians abandoning schmucks like Gary Johnson in favor Trump it changed the demographic of the Libertarian party. Most of the Libertarians that actually cared about what they believed in were gone leaving only the gay niggers in the party. They pretty much became co-opted by ex-SJW Democrats who were becoming disenfranchised themselves, hence the Diet Democrat attitude the party has today. This is why Libertarians are only concerned with defying Trump no matter the costs or if Trump is actually standing for traditional Libertarian values, the remaining Libertarians don't even know what Libertarian values are and don't understand why their party was founded in the first place.

Trump is definitely the most libertarian Presidents we've had in modern history without a doubt, people are willfully ignorant of this and you see Libertarians now booing Trump when he appeared at the Libertarian National Convention, one of the stupidest things I've ever seen them do as Trump was there to fucking help them but modern day libertarians refuse to accept that Trump is fairly libertarian. Just as Democrats are willfully ignorant of the fact that Trump's policies and stances are nearly identical to 1972 Democrat George McGovern's policies and stances, McGovern was essentially arguing for a proto America First MAGA agenda in 1972 and the Democrats loved it and treated him like a genius hero until he lost the election to Nixon.

Trump literally runs on the same campaigns of policy and is the living embodiment of what both Democrats and Libertarians strived for and aimed to achieve back in the 70s and early 2000s and now the Democrats and Libertarians both stand together in extreme opposition to these these ideals they once strived so hard to achieve themselves. It would be very sad if it weren't for all of Trump's constant winning.
 
You ever notice how none of them are ever good looking? You'd think at least a couple of e-thots would go there and post about it on twitter just as advertisement for their OnlyFans, but not even that. Just hippies afflicted with various ratios of fat and frumpy.

That said, the optics of Portland must have been catastrophically bad if the WEF stooges had to play the Nude Hippy March card. Not even the Animal Costumed Retards maneuver was enough this win back public sentiment, that's how much the average people want the illegals gone and if some commies SUFFAH in the process that's even better. They badly overplayed their hand with Antifa this time and the desperation is palpable.
 
I know it's :optimistic: as fuck but I really hope this supposed peace will last.
Would be nice, but I doubt it. The Middle East is allergic to peace.

What some are already saying:

ISRAEL'S FM SAYS THE QUIET PART LOUD: WAR WILL RESUME

Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich just turned political leverage into a war guarantee.He claims to have received “ironclad assurances” from Prime Minister Netanyahu that Israel will resume the war in Gaza once Phase 1 of the truce ends - assurances that technically hinge on Hamas failing to disarm or talks collapsing, but that Smotrich is selling as unconditional.In public, he’s framing it as a victory for his hard-right faction: “Our condition is that there is no Hamas.” In practice, that means almost any hiccup - a delayed negotiation, a perceived breach - becomes a green light to restart the offensive.Smotrich reportedly withdrew a resignation threat on January 27 after Netanyahu’s private commitments, a move that cemented his party’s support and signaled to hardliners that the war machine isn’t stopping... just refueling.It’s political semantics with battlefield consequences.The prime minister offered “conditional assurances.”Smotrich heard a promise of total war.
Source: Reuters, ToI, Arab News
 
'amnesty' for illegal immigration is kind of a bullshit term tbh.
actual amnesty means you're forgiven for past crimes, it doesn't mean you are allowed to continue committing the same crime in the future, nor does it mean you get to keep the gains from the crimes you commited.
for illigal immigration, proper amnesty would mean simply being allowed to leave the country, returning to your home country without further punishment.
proper punishment would mean you are sentenced to time in prison and only get to leave (be deported) AFTER serving your sentence.

what libshits want when they talk about 'amnesty' for illegal immigration isn't amnesty. it's legalisation. they want to do away with the concept of illegal immigration entirely, they want all immigration to be legal. open borders, 'no human is illegal', etc.
 
Would be nice, but I doubt it. The Middle East is allergic to peace.

What some are already saying:

ISRAEL'S FM SAYS THE QUIET PART LOUD: WAR WILL RESUME

Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich just turned political leverage into a war guarantee.He claims to have received “ironclad assurances” from Prime Minister Netanyahu that Israel will resume the war in Gaza once Phase 1 of the truce ends - assurances that technically hinge on Hamas failing to disarm or talks collapsing, but that Smotrich is selling as unconditional.In public, he’s framing it as a victory for his hard-right faction: “Our condition is that there is no Hamas.” In practice, that means almost any hiccup - a delayed negotiation, a perceived breach - becomes a green light to restart the offensive.Smotrich reportedly withdrew a resignation threat on January 27 after Netanyahu’s private commitments, a move that cemented his party’s support and signaled to hardliners that the war machine isn’t stopping... just refueling.It’s political semantics with battlefield consequences.The prime minister offered “conditional assurances.”Smotrich heard a promise of total war.
Source: Reuters, ToI, Arab News
Bibi’s between a rock and a hard place. If he restarts the war, he personally pisses off Trump and turns Israel into a pariah state. If he doesn’t, the hard right faction pulls out of his coalition and he goes to prison on corruption charges. I’d hate to be in his shoes.
 
Bibi’s between a rock and a hard place. If he restarts the war, he personally pisses off Trump and turns Israel into a pariah state. If he doesn’t, the hard right faction pulls out of his coalition and he goes to prison on corruption charges. I’d hate to be in his shoes.
The peace will hold as long as Trump is in office. Or there will be hell to pay. A lot of political capitol was spent pulling this off. And literal. 30,000 pound bunker busters aren't free. He's going to keep his word or get fucked.
 
Imagine if Palestine turns into some super-popular tourist trap now with a bunch of hotels and shit.

A bunch of pasty shitlibs just hanging out there like it's Hawaii so they can feel good about themselves.
 
Bibi’s between a rock and a hard place. If he restarts the war, he personally pisses off Trump and turns Israel into a pariah state. If he doesn’t, the hard right faction pulls out of his coalition and he goes to prison on corruption charges. I’d hate to be in his shoes.
Jewish Right winger are retarded it seems.They have literally become a pariah state, and they want the war to continue? If they choose to start up again, it would be equivalent to spitting in the orange mans face.But hey, he kissed the wall , so maybe he'd like that.
The peace will hold as long as Trump is in office. Or there will be hell to pay. A lot of political capitol was spent pulling this off. And literal. 30,000 pound bunker busters aren't free. He's going to keep his word or get fucked.
Remember that they broke the last ceasefire.
 
'amnesty' for illegal immigration is kind of a bullshit term tbh.
actual amnesty means you're forgiven for past crimes, it doesn't mean you are allowed to continue committing the same crime in the future, nor does it mean you get to keep the gains from the crimes you commited.
for illigal immigration, proper amnesty would mean simply being allowed to leave the country, returning to your home country without further punishment.
proper punishment would mean you are sentenced to time in prison and only get to leave (be deported) AFTER serving your sentence.

what libshits want when they talk about 'amnesty' for illegal immigration isn't amnesty. it's legalisation. they want to do away with the concept of illegal immigration entirely, they want all immigration to be legal. open borders, 'no human is illegal', etc.
I guess by this definition I support amnesty. The "proper punishment" seems like more of a punishment to us taxpayers since we have to finance their stay in a prison that is likely an improvement over whatever 3rd world shithole they originally came from. It also makes it so there's a chance they end up back in American society if their prison sentence lasts long enough that leftists regain some sort of power and get the opportunity to release them, or even just some sad excuse of a judge who makes rulings based on Orange Man bad.
 
I can't believe I've already died for Israel six times after that. If only he'd listened to Candace Owens!
Imagine listening to Groypers for fucking anything.
Remember that they broke the last ceasefire.
Trump has Bibi bent over a barrel for as long as he's in office. He did him a favor with Iran. Now its his turn. If he doesn't keep up his end, that will be a bad time.
 
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