Charlie Kirk: Aftermath, Gravedancing, and Manhunt

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Maori Kiwifruit Growers dijo:
I know this will be VERY unpopular. Look Charlie Kirk was not a member of the government, yet we're providing him all the honors that someone in government would get if they got assassinated. In many ways this is the same sort of thing like how the left did what George Floyd. Look you could agree with everything Charlie Kirk said, but the man does not deserve to have a flag flown in half mast when that's something that only happens when there's undeniably a national tragedy, or someone in the government dies. Charlie Kirk was a political figure and one not elected by the people. The Democrats don't agree with him and the Republicans like him. So you have half of the country that doesn't like him. Yet people are attacking people for not putting a flag at half mast or flagellating themselves over his death. I mean Christ, the thing that the Indian that runs the FBI said was over the fucking top and the man's corpse was transported on air force 2. At this point why don't we just put him on the fucking 20?
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I would say that the bigger issue is that the Trump administration is only carrying out symbolic actions that essentially state that we are at war with 5th columnists that want to tear this country apart and defile its' spirit, without actually following through on concrete actions to rectify such a situation. It's the worst of both worlds.
 
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Meat Target dijo:
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Fake Charlie Kirk Shooter Slapped With Kiddie Porn Charges ... After Confessing to FBI
The man accused of obstructing the Charlie Kirk murder probe is in even more hot water ... he's now been charged with possessing child porn.

George Zinn -- who falsely told police he shot Kirk moments after the attack -- was charged with obstruction of justice following the September 10 shooting death of the conservative activist at Utah Valley University in Orem, UT.

Now, Zinn has been charged with 4 counts of sexual exploitation of a minor after FBI agents examined his phone and found images of underage girls dressed only in their underwear, according to court documents filed Tuesday by Utah prosecutors. The docs say Zinn admitted to the feds he gets "sexually aroused" by children.

On September 10, Zinn was arrested and cuffed by police at UVU minutes after Kirk was shot in the neck while taking questions from a stage during one of his college events.

Cops say Zinn complained of chest pains and was brought to a hospital, where he told investigators he lied and was not Kirk's shooter.

FBI agents showed up at the hospital to interview Zinn, asking him if there was anything illegal on his phone, court records say. Zinn allegedly responded that he uses the phone to watch "child sexual abuse material."
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HANG THIS MOTHERFUCKER!!
 
Colonel Gaddafi dijo:
Because an unfortunate amount of people can't see the bigger picture. Hypothetically speaking, is what he said inflammatory? Sure. Would it be enough to turn his massive normie fanbase into alt right neo-nazis? No. There's nothing to be gained for Israel by killing him, in fact it might have the opposite effect of people looking deeper into what he was saying before he died. Troons, on the other hand, have their backs against the wall now that people are starting to wake up to their insanity, they've bumped and squeaked about some sort of stinkditch genocide for so long that it's totally unsurprising to find out that they're ready to kill you over disagreeing with their mentally ill fantasies.
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I don't want to keep posting about this topic but I do want to point out that from Kirk's Israeli donors point of view, donors that are factually confirmed to have been demanding Charlie to stop criticizing Israel, were sending him texts threatening him, Charlie was afraid Israel was going to target him. Whether people get furious whenever Israel is implicated in anything ever (gee I wonder why), these are facts this is how it is whether you like it or not. If Charlie was on his way out and was about to turn the narrative against Israel to the largest political audience out there, an audience Israeli donors funded, then killing him would be their best way to recoup their costs in a way and even double their money. You make sure he can never fully split or say anything problematic to this huge audience looking for influence, he's now locked in as Israel's biggest ally for eternity, and his influence has tripled at least from when he was alive. It makes perfect sense that they would want something like this.

I understand being skeptical of the Israel angle, I am too but I'm skeptical of literally every angle that ever comes from the government or media. Everyone should be, it's literal insanity if you don't knowing everything about history that we know. But at best it feels like there's some kind of autism at play with people who are so adamant that there is no possible way there was any influence or help with these antifa troons. The kind of autism that can't accept that two things can be true and the same at the same time because it fucks with their labels. Or at worst it's like dealing with an atheist who is so proud of his reddit brain that he thinks he's completely outsmarted Christianity with soyence (soyence in this case being media reporting) despite the fact that he, like everyone, doesn't possibly have any way of actually knowing.

I think it's odd that people are so closed off to very real possibilities, apparently because people think any agency being involved immediately takes the blame off of leftists? What sense does that make? Are there no leftists working with the feds? Well pretty much every fed op that we know of was committed by leftists. It's somehow so impossible to believe that rogue leftists, globalists, are working on ops behind the scenes to kill conservative figures close to Trump even though we accept that this is exactly what happened when Crooks shot Trump? People know that there are leftist ops happening on Reddit for a decade but you can't fathom that these same kind of ops would be happening in Discord servers as well? People will accept that antifa and trans are ideologies that come from the jews and Israel but you can't accept that these same people will kill people who undermine it from outside of their own control? The concept of "controlled opposition" is being lost on people, I remember not long ago when someone asked me what that even means in the previous politics thread, but it's a very real thing. You're willing to accept that these are people who were radicalized, but you refuse to think about who possibly radicalized them in the first place. It makes literally zero sense.

Anyway, long sperging aside, my point is that none of us here could ever actually know the full story and background of what actually happened, and we probably won't ever know except maybe in 70 years when all the files might get released, just like everything else in history. The notion that it has to be only one or the other, troons, or Israel, is absolutely absurd.
 
not william stenchever dijo:
I would say that the bigger issue is that the Trump administration is only carrying out symbolic actions that essentially state that we are at war with 5th columnists that want to tear this country apart and defile its' spirit, without actually following through on concrete actions to rectify such a situation. It's the worst of both worlds.
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I'm waiting on Monday (after Sunday, when the funeral is taking place) to see if they do something before I doom.

I feel like the whole ordeal has been extremely shocking to both sides. Even for lefties, they just decided to embrace their lack of humanity instead of realising how far down they've fallen.
 
Everyone i hate is a pedo dijo:
this might be true, but then wouldn't every fucker that has lived in a city be more insane than their rural counterparts? instead of Bleeding Kansas it should have been Bleeding New York City
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I would think the opposite, it would make sense those who did not grow up conditioned to handle the overload to be the ones to snap first. But I do agree it's probably more similar to how some people handle alcohol. The problem being alcohol is something completely optional in life and you have to pursue it, vs the overload that we are talking about is part of your every day life and is almost forced upon you.

And, it's only going to get worse and worse as time goes on. The amount of stimulation and information in our every day life is only going to grow exponentially which is going to exacerbate the problem in theory. It's like if alcohol was only ever going to be made stronger and stronger, and it was going to start being used in things instead of water (for hyperbole's sake).

Even if those whose brains pop like balloons because of overload were one in every hundreds of thousands, they will become more and more likely to pop and pop a lot more frequently in the future imo.
 
COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST dijo:
I really think CP is the Dave Chappelle "sprinkle some crack on him" equivalent for annoying white people authorities want to prosecute.
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So A: he is a left leaning pedo, and now this is going to be extra layers that the media will try to suppress even though TMZ just got ahold of it. B: the FBI is throwing lefties under the bus now.

Either way, things are going to be more interesting.
 
Meat Target dijo:
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Do you think at any point he thought "maybe I really shouldn't get involved trying to help the shooter get away since I have 500GB of child abuse on my home computer"? Or do you think he just was incapable of self control?

COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST dijo:
I really think CP is the Dave Chappelle "sprinkle some crack on him" equivalent for annoying white people authorities want to prosecute.
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Maybe sometimes, but if you are crazy enough to give yourself up as a shooter when you aren't, I suspect you having more shit just makes sense.
 
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