US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[Cancer ♥]

Nigger, the vast, vast majority, 99.99% or whatever, of the white kids who grow up around guns like this don't grow up to murder people.
That's clearly not the issue.

99.999% of statistics are made up hyperbole.
But my point is times are changing and redneck parents are very unlikely to be tech competent enough to effectively steer their kids in the right direction. This dude had every blessing possible to become a righteous American but somewhere along the way he was corrupted by literal faggotry. What possible benefit is there with training a 9 year old to know how to properly handle a rifle?
Charlie Kirk would be alive if Tyler's stupid faggot parents didn't prioritize weapons training over monitoring their kid and keeping him away from degeneracy

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

if we aren't here for a community where we get to know each other, what's the point?

To anonymously abuse people to make ourselves feel better.

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

I would think the shit written on the bullets, the statements from his family, and the dead Trump costume would be distinguishable enough, but that's just me I guess.

I agree but if you have thousands and thousands of gibbering retards in unison saying something, people are going to think it’s true anyway regardless of the claim or source.

The only way is to inoculate others from bullshit. How do you do that? Actual education about basic political theory

It would make sense if one party was a "let you alone unless you ask for help" and the other party was a "build society to look like this" but when the right drags Christian beliefs in it just looks like the left but with a different vision of what society should be

You’re welcome you little ingrate

 

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The one thing that has stayed with me on this, like watching the people jumping out in 9/11, has been the story of his daughter running to her dad because the gunshot scared her so she naturally went to her dad for safety. When I think about that, I have no problem flipping the switch on fat dysgenic antifas. These people committed themselves to the devil, they cannot and will not change.

>"He's on a work trip with Jesus."

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late
With long arrears to make good,
When the Right began to hate.

 

[Irene and 22 others]

It'll be interesting to see where the rhetoric is by the end of this weekend. The left collectively trying to parrot the 'no stalker child it is YOU who tried to kill Charlie Kirk' line is as infuriating as their usual spin on pretty much anything is, but that's what it is - the usual.

They do it intentionally to throw out as much chaff as possible because they realize that most people latch on to whatever they hear first and that it takes a lot to overturn that. Leftists in particular will hold on to lies that they know are lies as long as they've convenient even after everyone else has realized the truth and moved on.

I've heard that this guy apparently said that a few dead kids is worth the price of keeping the 2nd amendment (which is a fucking terrible argument btw, never ever make a point like this if you're pro-gun, it makes you sound like a total psychopath) only to get shot, maybe god exists and he has a sense of humor.

There would be fewer dead kids if the government could spy on anyone they wanted to and stop terrorist plots before they happened. Only a total psychopath would think that keeping the 4th amendment is worth the cost of a few dead kids. It would be even easier to convict these people if the 5th amendment went away as well. May as well get rid of the 1st amendment so that everyone can be forcibly converted to Islam so the terrorists won't blow up children. A few dead kids isn't worth the price after all. Only a total psychopath would argue otherwise.

 

[snotang]

99.999% of statistics are made up hyperbole.
But my point is times are changing and redneck parents are very unlikely to be tech competent enough to effectively steer their kids in the right direction. This dude had every blessing possible to become a righteous American but somewhere along the way he was corrupted by literal faggotry. What possible benefit is there with training a 9 year old to know how to properly handle a rifle?
Charlie Kirk would be alive if Tyler's stupid faggot parents didn't prioritize weapons training over monitoring their kid and keeping him away from degeneracy

While I understand the point you're making, I think you'll find that telling a parent "hold off on enhancing your offspring's defensive capabilities, their lives might not end up being worth defending" is not going to go over well, and if it does it represents either a very cold hyper-rationality or a complete failure in parental instincts.

 

[H A G]

It is REALLY bizarre to me that every other terrorist and shooter's motives get to be very clear, yet when it's a conservative who gets shot, we have to consider whether it's an irony-based clout chasing zoomer who might be false flagging. Firstly, irony is used by zoomers to mask their true intentions to avoid having their real selves mocked. I think planning a murder and throwing your life away is a good example of unironic behavior. Secondly, a fame killer could've killed a popular singer for even more fame. If he is a "clout chaser" (which could apply to all high profile killers), then he wanted the approval of a certain specific segment of society that would cheer on the assassination of a political figure. Thirdly, imagine considering for even a second that the reason John Wilkes Booth shot Lincoln is because he was false flagging to make the Union look better. That's how fucking retarded the people who believe this argument are.

 

[0713]

99.999% of statistics are made up hyperbole.
But my point is times are changing and redneck parents are very unlikely to be tech competent enough to effectively steer their kids in the right direction. This dude had every blessing possible to become a righteous American but somewhere along the way he was corrupted by literal faggotry. What possible benefit is there with training a 9 year old to know how to properly handle a rifle?
Charlie Kirk would be alive if Tyler's stupid faggot parents didn't prioritize weapons training over monitoring their kid and keeping him away from degeneracy

I clearly didn't mean that as an exact value based on statistics, if you read the words before and after.

1. People who own guns are not "rednecks". Your bias is showing, making the rest of your arguments really hard to take seriously.

2. Parents not raising their children properly has nothing to do with guns. You're the one who raised a sociopath kid, not the guns. Yes it's a tool and yes it can be used for evil but if you take them away you're not solving the problem at all, you're just changing the shape of it. Not to mention an armed populace is absolutely more valuable than the possible theoretical benefits of taking guns away. It's not even close! If a radicalized sociopath wanted to kill Charlie Kirk it wasn't the presence or lack of guns that would have stopped them. Look into how the bombs from the Boston Marathon bombing were made, and how shockingly easy it is to make one, and how much carnage such simple devices were able to create.

3. The benefits are to raise a child that's capable of defending themselves. Not to mention guns are SAFE when people are responsible about it, which the vast, vast majority of white people are. Again, proven by the fact that white kids who grow up around guns don't usually grow up to murder innocent people. The causal relationship is clearly not there.

4. If you think that being raised around guns is the difference between that murderous faggot being a murderous faggot or not, you're so retarded that I now regret the time I spent writing all of this.

And by Charlie's own words. The values, the freedom and the lives that guns protect far, far outweigh the cost. And it's not guns that killed Charlie Kirk, a radicalized leftist sociopath did.

 

[Big Nasty]

Interesting how often sadism is coupled with persecutory delusions.

 

[BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny]

In 1980 there was a particularly nasty Republican strategist named Lee Atwater. He eventually eventually became a liability to the Right. Newt Gingrich is known for his pissing contest shutting down the government. People get tired of taxpayer funded ego games. A bright spot during the first Trump administration was his disinclination to fund another Starr Report on Mrs Clinton. If the second Trump Administration runs wild sacking people over the milder tweets (such as "he died for his beliefs") it removes a reason to vote for his proteges.

We are overdue for a McCarthyist purge of communist infiltrators in our government though. I consider anyone in the employ of the federal government to be fair game—though I wouldn't fire someone for mildly criticizing Charlie Kirk, I would put them on a watch list to see if they are acting in a subversive manner.
I would liken it to the 'thieving maid problem', wherein some maids have been caught in the act of stealing (praising the killer, pointing to new targets) and others are only suspect of stealing (posting that "he died for his beliefs" or "ironic"). I would fire the people who clearly praise the assassination or advocate for violence, but for the more mild tweets I would put them on file (just like the one everyone in this thread has on them).

 

[The Last Stand]

Charlie's death was not in vain. So many leftists in high places are getting fired. He's fucking over these leftists from beyond the grave.

They’re fucking THEMSELVES over. I don’t even think Charlie Kirk knew they existed. Or, he didn’t think about them every waking moment.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

In the last two days I've learned there is a disturbingly large number of bloodthirsty leftist vermin on the Nazi Hate Site Kiwifarms.st.

These people need to go to a camp so they can concentrate

 

[Point and Laugh]

That protest in the U.K. is happening and they have the Māori guys ripping up Palestinian and Islamic flags on the stage. I’m lmao. Great move not having white people do it. What will the lefties do?! They’re brown!

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

They do it intentionally to throw out as much chaff as possible because they realize that most people latch on to whatever they hear first and that it takes a lot to overturn that. Leftists in particular will hold on to lies that they know are lies as long as they've convenient even after everyone else has realized the truth and moved on.



There would be fewer dead kids if the government could spy on anyone they wanted to and stop terrorist plots before they happened. Only a total psychopath would think that keeping the 4th amendment is worth the cost of a few dead kids. It would be even easier to convict these people if the 5th amendment went away as well. May as well get rid of the 1st amendment so that everyone can be forcibly converted to Islam so the terrorists won't blow up children. A few dead kids isn't worth the price after all. Only a total psychopath would argue otherwise.

Don’t forget the fucking third man. We can quarter troops in houses to secure them.

 

[Space Faring Marsupial]

That protest in the U.K. is happening and they have the Māori guys ripping up Palestinian and Islamic flags on the stage. I’m lmao. Great move not having white people do it. What will the lefties do?! They’re brown!

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Oh that is a great sight.

 

[Irene and 22 others]

Don’t forget the fucking third man. We can quarter troops in houses to secure them.

And the 19th. If women weren't able to vote for all of this stupid shit because they feel sad about poor brown people, none of this would have ever happened in the first place.



Actually, that one might not be such a bad idea.

 

[The Ugly One]

I've heard that this guy apparently said that a few dead kids is worth the price of keeping the 2nd amendment (which is a fucking terrible argument btw, never ever make a point like this if you're pro-gun, it makes you sound like a total psychopath) only to get shot, maybe god exists and he has a sense of humor.

And on the flip side, liberals say a few raped children are worth it so that trannies can groom and sexually mutilate more kids.

I'm actually pro gun as well, admittedly because its a hobby of mine, the self-defense argument is a much more feasible and understandable point to make, if we want to stem public opinion on the side of keeping our firearms, make sure we sound like reasonable people with reasonable concerns, we do not want to sound like a bunch of deranged loonies who are willing to let some people die just to keep firearms, people value real human lives over guns you know.

The reason people are calling you stupid is Kirk was ambushed. If you go out in public to make pro-2A arguments, the very first thing any libtard will say is "muh dead kids." Avoiding addressing the rare school shootings in America is not an option, and to date, nobody has found a perfect verbal formulation that libs cannot twist to say, "See? Republicans think mountains of dead children are worth it so they can cross state lines to murder peaceful protesters!"

 

[Jace on ice]

Oh that is a great sight.

Why is a tribe indigenous to New Zealand in the UK?

 

[JayseeDenton]

most people latch on to whatever they hear first and that it takes a lot to overturn that

On the other hand, they only stay latched on to what they get socially rewarded/forgiven for believing. We've seen how fast they will change on something when it becomes clear "this is the new thing you have to believe to not get canceled" even if it was the exact opposite 7 years prior.

I think what's been happening ever since October 7th (arguably even since Russia invaded Ukraine) is that the narratives are all over the place. There is no safe thing to believe anymore because there's 6 different leftist groups who all have very differing and passionate opinions on it. No matter what you believe, 80% of leftists will hate you for it, and even that 80% is balkanized against each other so you can't just flip to their side, you'll still be hated by 80%.

Eventually people simply have to come to the conclusion that they just have to think for themselves since they can't just get safety by bending the knee anymore.

 

[The man The only man]

If Trump ends Indian IT, I will finally get my IT-support ticket processed. KILL EM ALL!

I finally got an answer to my ticket where a pajeet faggot will extend the due date another week in order to make sure that it is legitimate. Nigger, all that pajeet has to do is give me code that I fucking paid for.