US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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JayseeDenton dijo:
This really feels like the last dying breath of the blm movement. Jordan Neely was probably the knockout punch, this is like the fingers twitching as the life leaves the corpse.
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Hermann von Salsa dijo:
BLM never truly goes away, just comes and goes in waves. 1800s were unrelated and uncoordinated assortment of race riots. Then you had the tearing down of racial barriers in the 20th century that came along with the civil rights movement. This would cascade into the LA riots and what we would recognize as BLM politics taking form all thank to Rodney King. 2020 was just the boiling tensions between the black community and the rest of society that have built up over the 2000s and 2010s and finally exploded thanks to the patron Saint of Fent, George Floyd. I'm sure once we get another image of a poor black man getting oppressed by police the mob of love will rally again to burn down another Denny's.
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Nigger moments and chimpouts will always be a lingering inevitability as long as nobody does what Lincoln wanted to do after the ACW and deports the entire Afro-American population to Liberia.

That said, they can be managed (and were in fact managed well enough in the late 19th to mid-20th centuries) if and only if/when whitey has broken the anti-racist conditioning. Niggers behaved themselves far more responsibly when they knew that raping & murdering random whites would not result in no punishment or even reward from society rather than getting shot by cops or lynched (with the people who put them down feeling no guilt after the fact). And that pitching Category 2+ chimpouts would not get them excused and pampered every step of the way by black supremacists & morally sick libshit degenerates trying to usher in the BNWO but rather result in them being massacred and their ghettoes burnt to the ground by the honkeys' retaliation (ie. the Tulsa massacre, where no less a proggy source than Wikipedo now has to consneed that white newspapers didn't actually use inflammatory headlines calling people to lynch niggers; that blacks started the whole clusterfuck by showing up in armed mobs when the whites were calming down, with the initial outburst of violence killing 10 whites and 2 blacks; and that there's in fact no evidence whatsoever to support the fantastical accusation by supposed eyewitnesses that the National Guard flew bombers against the niggers).

Of course there were still times when niggers would be niggers, but whites used such instances as the time & place to make an example rather than bending over backwards to accommodate the chimpout and self-flagellate, and society was far better off for it. Recall that it was during the so-called 'Nadir of American Race Relations' (so basically, history up until 1965) that present-day shitholes like Detroit, Los Angeles (and in fact California in general), Baltimore and Chicago were top-notch cities and the envies of the world. Perhaps they can be again, if the white man ever rediscovers his spine in full.
 
Hojicha dijo:
China Observer is an anti-CCP channel fyi. They are sort of in the sphere of the China Show (a 2 man channel dedicated to talking about how shitty their time living there and dealing with the ccp was. Highly recommend.)
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For further clarification: China Observer, alongside other channels like China Deep Dive and China Insights, are heavily associated with Falun Gong. C-Milk and Winston of ADVChina/Laowhy86/SerpentZA/Xiaban Hou fame generally don't disagree with what those outlets put out, but it must be said that Falun Gong's aggressive hateboner toward the CPC and shilling their distorted idea of "traditional Chinese culture" skews their videos more toward doomsaying and sensationalism than actual coverage of facts.
 
quaawaa dijo:
Apple could easily make the iPhone in the US but Tim Cook wasted a trillion dollars building factories in China and the sunk cost fallacy has been keeping them there.
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The recent video (not sure when recorded) that's going around of him is infuriating. He goes on about the great tooling and material engineers they have in China and how there are very few people of that caliber in the US so they have to be made in China. I'm like that's because you fired everyone in the US and there was never a pathway for people to become those in the US.

You open up here and we will have those people and skills again. It won't be tomorrow, but those people in China didn't suddenly appear overnight either.
 
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indomitable snowman dijo:
The recent video (not sure when recorded) that's going around of him is infuriating. He goes on about the great tooling and material engineers they have in China and how there very few people of that caliber in the US so they have to be made in China. I'm like that's because you fired everyone in the US and there was never a pathway for people to become those in the US.
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What's even worse about that is that when Apple first started to make the iPhone in China, THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY SUPPLY CHAIN OR SKILLED LABOR. Apple invested billions of dollars (now probably close to a trillion) to BUILD China's phone manufacturing capability FROM SCRATCH.
 
indomitable snowman dijo:
The recent video (not sure when recorded) that's going around of him is infuriating. He goes on about the great tooling and material engineers they have in China and how there very few people of that caliber in the US so they have to be made in China. I'm like that's because you fired everyone in the US and there was never a pathway for people to become those in the US.

You open up here and we will have those people and skills again. It won't be tomorrow, but those people in China didn't suddenly appear overnight either.
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I wonder if they aren't going to try and make libshit White women sad, on top of not satisfying their shopping addictions with temu/shein/wish garbage, they start doing sad Sarah McLachlan ads about how it was The Right Side of History to make the factories go away and now we have a duty of care to Ching Chonglets to make sure those jobs are still there. Bonus points if they mention how the US is cleaner/greener now with zero self awareness re: pollution in China and how the environmental/pollution regs they have are basically toilet paper in practice.
 
Dread First dijo:
For further clarification: China Observer, alongside other channels like China Deep Dive and China Insights, are heavily associated with Falun Gong. C-Milk and Winston of ADVChina/Laowhy86/SerpentZA/Xiaban Hou fame generally don't disagree with what those outlets put out, but it must be said that Falun Gong's aggressive hateboner toward the CPC and shilling their distorted idea of "traditional Chinese culture" skews their videos more toward doomsaying and sensationalism than actual coverage of facts.
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I think the clickbait is more in the headlines and they feel chintzy for using Ai text to speech instead of owning their irl Chinese accents.

But for example, the epoch times is Falun Gong, and they’re a decent quality outlet.

Unless you can filter the pro CCP bias from major networks, those channels’ having bias is counterweight. I mean I agree that when claims seem sensational, you should look for evidence that backs them up.

The problem that I see is that the majority of Americans UNDERestimate how bad the CCP is because the people who want to continue the current trade balance are the big money corporations that pay for legacy news to continue being broadcast while it most likely loses money. So they don’t mention shit like tofu dreg construction, or how China, who exports fentanyl precursors to Mexican cartels, has the death penalty for domestic drug dealers.

But when you watch those channels and something is stated as a fact, and you check and find out that yeah, it’s a fact, then it’s ok that it’s a fact
 
Dread First dijo:
For further clarification: China Observer, alongside other channels like China Deep Dive and China Insights, are heavily associated with Falun Gong. C-Milk and Winston of ADVChina/Laowhy86/SerpentZA/Xiaban Hou fame generally don't disagree with what those outlets put out, but it must be said that Falun Gong's aggressive hateboner toward the CPC and shilling their distorted idea of "traditional Chinese culture" skews their videos more toward doomsaying and sensationalism than actual coverage of facts.
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This, it's just a mirror image of the CCP propaganda machine. A necessary force given the way public opinion works, but if you're interested in the truth it should be taken with a grain of salt.
 
indomitable snowman dijo:
The recent video (not sure when recorded) that's going around of him is infuriating. He goes on about the great tooling and material engineers they have in China and how there are very few people of that caliber in the US so they have to be made in China. I'm like that's because you fired everyone in the US and there was never a pathway for people to become those in the US.

You open up here and we will have those people and skills again. It won't be tomorrow, but those people in China didn't suddenly appear overnight either.
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Like I was saying in my last message, the bias in favor of CCP messaging is deeper than a lot of people think.

How true can it possibly be that China has unique tooling quality when they don’t have a single noteworthy machine tool manufacturer?

Haas is an American company

Here’s groks top ten list
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SpergioLeonne dijo:
Like I was saying in my last message, the bias in favor of CCP messaging is deeper than a lot of people think.

How true can it possibly be that China has unique tooling quality when they don’t have a single noteworthy machine tool manufacturer?

Haas is an American company

Here’s groks top ten list
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We should be ok then Eric and Don Trump can just make more of these machines and tools?
 
AnotherPleb dijo:
That nog's incarceration was supposed to incite the summer race bullshit AJ was talking with Tucker Carlson about.
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Well even if the video leaves no doubt...(it most likely very damming for the lawyer to 180 and run the other way) negroid will still rally and seethe in the street.
Why just because they hate whites.
The simple act of breathing or blinking near them, enrage them.
No justification needed....
 
autistic dog dijo:
We should be ok then Eric and Don Trump can just make more of these machines and tools?
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So you don’t know what a machine tool is?

These companies need a little lead time, but you just fucking order the equipment out of a catalogue. They’re not whoaOMG complicated, basically a cnc mill is you have a table that uses servos to rotate ball screws to move the x and y axis, a z axis ball screw holding a spindle that rotates the cutting tool, PLCs to communicate to them and a shitty computer that can interpret g code for the PLCs

You just have to be precise putting it all together

The doom shit is really stupid. I was working for a company that wanted to expand, and they went from 30 to 60 machine tools, knocked down a wall, poured some new slab, the whole thing in a couple of months without ever stopping production
 
SpergioLeonne dijo:
How true can it possibly be that China has unique tooling quality when they don’t have a single noteworthy machine tool manufacturer?
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The logic here is kind of wonky. It assumes because you can manufacture a tool, it also means you're an expert at applying that tool to a job and vice versa. That because you're good at Gcode or CAD or doing a tooling setup, you're capable of making an entire 5 axis machine.
 
CaliforniaRaisin dijo:
The logic here is kind of wonky. It assumes because you can manufacture a tool, it also means you're an expert at applying that tool to a job.
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Bro, I don’t know how to tell you this, but an iPhone case isn’t that complicated

We have people who make ball bearings for the guidance gyroscopes in cruise missiles. That is tight tolerance. I made optics mounts for the laser rangefinder in the nose of F35s.. that’s tight tolerance AND complex geometry

A phone case is really pretty minimal in terms of complexity

So what I’m doing is disparaging the claim that iPhone cases are hard to build, requiring tooling and expertise that America doesn’t have

What engineers they have are probably Taiwanese, who have to be there just to make sure they don’t fuck it up. If there were a glut of talented engineers and machinists in China, the place that loves manufacturing so much, then they could make their own machine tools

Edit: you added so let me respond

I was describing a three axis machine, which is a basic cnc mill. If you want to add more axis, they are pluggable add-ons in the case of a basic cnc mill

Nobody has to “be good at g code” because CAD/CAM software exists to convert drawings to gcode. Solidworks lets you go from a 3D articulable model to CAD/CAM

Haas is good at making cnc mills and they’re here. There is virtually no machine tool production in china because their culture is a disaster when it comes to quality

You’re out past what you actually know about
 
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SpergioLeonne dijo:
Like I was saying in my last message, the bias in favor of CCP messaging is deeper than a lot of people think.

How true can it possibly be that China has unique tooling quality when they don’t have a single noteworthy machine tool manufacturer?

Haas is an American company

Here’s groks top ten list
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@Null can we make consulting ai for information and opinions an instant ban offense? I'm sick of seeing people refusing to think.
 
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