US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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what are we going to prosecute them for anyway?, being incompetent retards?, as much as it would be nice to make that a legally enforceable punishment, that's not going to be passed into law anytime soon.

Unless you want to Trump legal team to start mentioning the deep state or shit like that in the court, that is not going to make any tangible progress.
 
World Famous Quasi Payer dijo:
The transformation of the US from an isolationist power, into one not only willing, but eager to get mixed up in European blood feuds has got to be the worst blow dealt to the Republic since its founding. It should also be mentioned that US interventionism has been more about maintaining the status quo than altering it to suit US interests. The saving of France, and Britain from defeat at German hands resulted in the Soviet Union. And yet another war with Germany, that neither power could fend off without US support, again. The destruction of the old empires and an end to european colonialism has resulted in decolonization, and the proliferation of communism. Both of which has clearly been a disaster for humanity. The europeans got themselves caught up in a large stupid war, and they should have been left there.

And what did our intervention get the US? What did our anti-empire policies achieve? The creation of Poland only resulted in France, and Britain sitting on their asses when Hitler, and then Stalin invaded in the 30s. The long slog across the Pacific only resulted in giving the Chinese communists the chance to turn the most populous nation on earth into a communist hell hole, and led to the Korean and Vietnam wars. Need I say anything about the creation of Israel has gotten us?

That little fight in France has been the worst mistake this nation has ever made. Every other pointless conflict can trace its origin to that one.
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All evil in the world can be traced back to France.
 
spaztocate9000 dijo:
Our side could at least try, and if the courts are going to go mask off so be it. The point is there won't be arrests much less trials.
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I think there might be more value in not pursuing any arrests and for Trump to "be the bigger man" in this case.
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Let me explain... I realize that's extremely gay, but there's more to winning the country over than just getting the seats of power. I might be in the minority here but I still firmly believe that political positions don't provide ultimate power. The optics game and winning the people over are important. Politicians have friends and family, they go out in public, their children go to school, their family members go to ball games, people implement their policies, work in their security detail, and police officers enforce their laws. We saw how easily the left absolutely rat fucked the right for 20 years by user their bs to wrangle the youth vote and the "cool" factor. Even when Bush and Trump 1 were in power the country didn't feel like it was right wing.

"the mob is rome" as it were. The clintons, obamas, Soros, and all these assholes didn't implement clown world just by having the government, they did it by having the people.

We're in an era where culture is up for grabs for the first time in probably 30 years, and normies have first hand experience with the problems of unchecked leftism. It's not worth it to get all of the keys to power if 55% of the people living in the country think it's run by an evil dictator and the remaining 45% feel they can't speak up. I mentioned in a post yesterday that Trump has an unusual way of showing mercy to people once they're a non threat and that does appeal to something very atavistic. It shows he's the good guy.

That said I don't think it matters much either way because the wind is at our sails. If he doesn't pursue arrests people will see it as admirable, if he does then enough people will probably understand why he did it. It's a win/win.
 
Cassius Crayfish dijo:
No, sorry, the First World War was clearly the shifting point between eras. It was the end of world order established by the Congress of Vienna, which lasted a century. It established the world led by the United States, which was the only country to come out of it better off than it entered. The causes of the Second World War are found directly as consequences of the first.

If you want to say that the Second World War was the means by which that era accelerated towards its peak, then I think you'd have a point.
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WW1 was the death of Europe and Monarchy. From it 3 systems emerged trying to replace it.

1. communism
2. fascism
3. Liberal democracy

ww2 was the war to destroy fascism, the cold war was to destroy communism, only our system survived but is clearly hollow and on life support, waiting for another to replace it.
 
JayseeDenton dijo:
And rapid rise of communism it was clear in the 1940s that we couldn't continue to depend on the strategy of "use our oceans and armed population to fend off invaders" and remain isolationist.
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We could if we had nipped the communists in the bud. Soviets played their hand by holding on to the territory they "liberated". Their armies were beaten and battered from the war, we had nukes and our armies were already in Europe and Asia surrounding the USSR. All Truman had to do was allow Patton to roll east while MacArthur heads west.
 
Irene and 22 others dijo:
I think the explanation is much simpler than that. The USA wasn't as involved in WWI, but was involved in both major theaters of WWII. Of course we're going to be more interested in something we were not only involved in, but were instrumental in winning. The weapons it was fought with also make it more interesting as WWI devolved into trench warfare as military tactics hadn't quite caught up with technological advances yet. By WWII there were significant advances in armored vehicles, airplanes, naval vessels, and weapons. By the end of the war atomic weapons had been developed and used to devastating effect. WWII is the big Hollywood sequel to the well made budget film that was WWI.
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Even at the time, the alien nature of the politics of WWI made it hard to justify to Americans. Wilson tried to frame it as a war for "democracy," the one small problem being that Russia was the least democratic of any major power involved. In fact, Wilson himself expressed confusion and dismay to the UK regarding their alliance with Russia, since to him, it made no sense for democracies to ally with autocracies.

On a personal level, I've been interested in both world wars since I was a preteen, and despite having multiple books at my disposal, I didn't fundamentally grasp what WWI was about until I was in my twenties, as I was finally old enough to understand political systems and conflicts fundamentally different to anything in my own experience in American democracy. At minimum, you need to at least know who the Hohenzollerns, Osmans, Romanovs, Windsors, and Habsburg-Lorraines are and what was going on with their respective dynasties to make sense of the thing. Most Americans don't even know what the Ottoman Empire was at all.
 
WWI to me is singularly the saddest event in history from a standpoint of human suffering and it's consequences more than a hundred years later.
 
quaawaa dijo:
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I hate the news so much. Nobody can give a single statement without some faggot journoscum begging to interrupt a second they start talking. I would immediately lose my shit if somebody did that shit to me.

In any case, if we're going to start selling corn to India we're going to have to make a lot more sacrifices. You get this joke instead of the one about corn in shit so be thankful.
 
JayseeDenton dijo:
This really feels like the last dying breath of the blm movement. Jordan Neely was probably the knockout punch, this is like the fingers twitching as the life leaves the corpse.
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BLM never truly goes away, just comes and goes in waves. 1800s were unrelated and uncoordinated assortment of race riots. Then you had the tearing down of racial barriers in the 20th century that came along with the civil rights movement. This would cascade into the LA riots and what we would recognize as BLM politics taking form all thanks to Rodney King. 2020 was just the boiling tensions between the black community and the rest of society that have built up over the 2000s and 2010s and finally exploded thanks to the patron Saint of Fent, George Floyd. I'm sure once we get another image of a poor black man getting oppressed by police the mob of love will rally again to burn down another Denny's.
 
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Hojicha dijo:
China Observer is an anti-CCP channel fyi. They are sort of in the sphere of the China Show (a 2 man channel dedicated to talking about how shitty their time living there and dealing with the ccp was. Highly recommend.)
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I’m familiar. I like Winston better than the American guy, who's kinda spastic. I was originally a serpentza fan
 
SpergioLeonne dijo:
I’m familiar. I like Winston better than the American guy, who's kinda spastic. I was originally a serpentza fan
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I sort of agree. Winston hits a little harder but at least it gives him someone to riff with. I wish they were more popular, if the average US citizen would break from tiktoks mind slavery they might learn real things about China..
 
Hojicha dijo:
I sort of agree. Winston hits a little harder but at least it gives him someone to riff with. I wish they were more popular, if the average US citizen would break from tiktoks mind slavery they might learn real things about China..
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Winston has the maxed out back story, too, and in his solo videos he tries to explain things with enough depth that you get a better picture and understand the “why” better. Overall I feel like he has better credibility.

I also like Lei’s Real Talk. She comes off as a broadly knowledgeable person in general, with a depth of understanding in a large area of geopolitical topics.
 
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