Solution to gun violence in the United States

[redcent]

The onus would not be on me to figure that out. The onus would be on you to figure out why your behavior necessitates the use of weapons.

I don't know. As I said, shootings happen over the most pettiest and most selfish of reasons. Just how far does that rabbit hole go?

In my case, it could be. For others, it may not be. How I solve disputes does not necessitate the need for someone else to not go the extra mile. After all, bullets and guns do and can travel a distance depending on how creative you are with them.

Guns are very limited considering the distances I'm thinking of. In the end, it is a very limited weapon, and not the panacea for all disputes, whether petty and selfish or legit serious.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

Just how far does that rabbit hole go?

It's best not to philosophize too much. You'll end up with endless "what ifs." Handle situations as they come the best way you can.

Not the panacea for all disputes,

I don't think anyone argued that hence the word "some." I'm just concerned with my conduct, and let law deal with the rest.

 

[redcent]

The people who use this argument don't care about kids otherwise they wouldn't make it so easy to abort them.

Counterpoint: the only reason a pro-gun advocate cares about being anti-abortion is because the school is running out his favourite clay pigeons. Otherwise you'd think they'd care for a kid moreso than a fetus who's life status philosophically is questionable but instead it's the other way around.

It's best not to philosophize too much. You'll end up with endless "what ifs." Handle situations as they come the best way you can.

Yeah, but I don't have to handle the situation, at all. But americans do. It is american behaviour that makes it so easy to escalate over petty selfish things and so often. Something about americans being americans you makes you feel like you need a gun in the first place.

I don't think anyone argued that hence the word "some." I'm just concerned with my conduct, and let law deal with the rest.

If you were okay with letting the law deal with everything why need a gun?

 

[McMitch]

I'd accept it just fine if yanks just admitted they're living in a third world shithole

Every demographic has a better quality of living in the US than they do abroad. It’s when the metrics for those demographics are taken as a generality that the average trends downward.

Lol "third worlder" pot, meet kettle.

You conspicuously left out the part where I qualified it with “in the Cold World sense,” because you’re a disingenuous little cunt.

But as for the former, I'm not going to think its malignant enough to make my life a living hell.

>Australian
>Can’t imagine a government making your life hell.
Yeah, okay buddy.

So worried about big bad government knocking on your door and threatening you to your face, when the real threat is them leeching away your money.

The real solution to this is shooting politicians bureaucrats and politicians.

But this is a perfect example of the non-American, usually an Anglo, being fundamentally incapable of comprehending that gun ownership isn’t there because it’s good or bad or makes society better or worse (though an armed society is a polite society), but simply because the government does not have the right to say otherwise (the fact that they have is a travesty). He’ll twist every argument and insult, call you third world when his own land has been conquered by China in all but name, call you poor when his own dollar is 2/3 of the USD, drag out school shootings to soapbox on their corpses when his own stabbing incidents are as numerous and as deadly; all to convince himself this one right his own country forfeited is what makes the US a worse country. The unarmed man, desperate to hide his envy, may only affect a smug veneer to avoid introspection.

 

[redcent]

Every demographic has a better quality of living in the US than they do abroad. It’s when the metrics for those demographics are taken as a generality that the average trends downward.

Oh? And what's so great about living in America then? Place doesn't look so hot to me.

You conspicuously left out the part where I qualified it with “in the Cold World sense,” because you’re a disingenuous little cunt.

Yeah, didn't know where you were going with that.

>Australian
>Can’t imagine a government making your life hell.
Yeah, okay buddy.

I'm not the one stressing about the government.

The real solution to this is shooting politicians.

But this is a perfect example of the non-American, usually an Anglo, being fundamentally incapable of comprehending that gun ownership isn’t there because it’s good or bad or makes society better or worse (though an armed society is a polite society), but simply because the government does not have the right to say otherwise (the fact that they have is a travesty). He’ll twist every argument and insult, call you third world when his own land has been conquered by China in all but name, call you poor when his own dollar is 2/3 of the USD, drag out school shootings to soapbox on their corpses when his own stabbing incidents are as numerous and as deadly; all to convince himself this one right his own country forfeited is what makes the US a worse country. The unarmed man, desperate to hide his envy, may only affect a smug veneer to avoid introspection.

You don't get it.

American life, looking on the outside, looks horrific.

I'm not the sort to worry about any of what you're fussing over, I'm genuinely concerned how horrible things are over there. I insult simply as a matter of course, but for reals, the USA sounds like a genuinely bad place to live.

And if I wish to question my sources, we'll, just talking to the A&Hers here cements it. A&Hers sound like a very miserable group of people.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Matthew 26 : 52

“Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."

He said to them, “But now, the one who has a money bag must take it, and likewise a traveler’s bag too. And the one who has no sword must sell his cloak and buy one. - Luke 22:36

While it is absolutely forbidden to defend the Gospel with violence, there is a time and place for people to have weapons.

 

[McMitch]

Oh? And what's so great about living in America then? Place doesn't look so hot to me.

For the same level of skill and effort you put into living in Australia, you will receive more valuable money in greater amounts that you get to keep more of in return. Additionally, you may do so without being relegated to one of three coastal cities.

Yeah, didn't know where you were going with that.

The First/Second/Third World terminology was coined during the Cold War. First World = USA, Second = USSR, Third World = Everywhere else. The reason the term third world became associated with lawless and poor countries was because almost all of the countries in that category are lawless and poor.

I'm not the sort to worry about any of what you're fussing over, I'm genuinely concerned how horrible things are over there.

You’re sourcing your opinion through the lens of 1) propaganda aimed at corralling Americans into a more subservient lifestyle, 2) socio-political issues that have taken a century to unfold, and 3) specious qualifications from countries towards the US in an attempt to run counter to the fact that their own countries have not only been overtaken by the US in what the average US citizen can achieve in comparison, but have been overtaken to an insurmountable degree. So you third-worlders harp on this one topic, because you’ve been successfully convinced that the government maintaining a monopoly on violence could never be abused even as they’re arresting you for telling the truth.

 

[We Are The Witches]

Non-Americans are literally incapable of accepting this fact, for various reasons. The idea that the government does not inherently have the best intentions for society at large is so foreign to the third-worlder (in the Cold War sense) that he can only assume it’s a flaw in the US’s foundations. The idea that government is somehow not made of a special caste of humans simply never crosses his mind.

You're assuming too much, and the snarky comments while doing this is just the nail on the coffin.

The truth is, you're far more exposed to a retard/violent person shooting you before you can do anything, than I'll ever be if I stay in the country I'm right now (which I may not, in the future).

The issues in my country are another thing, but it is not a problem or threat when it involves firearms for a normal life, yours does, because your current system does not work properly, and so you have the occasional story from the US where a sweet innocent person got brutally shot and now their family will never fully recover.

Thousands of stories, where innocent people got shot and are now dead, including children, because turned out that the criminal with the gun was more violent to end their life before they could do anything to prevent it.

And if you want to have guns, as I said, your tests for allowing someone to get one legally seem ineffective as of now.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

So if you have a dispute with me, an internet rando who lives in another country, how would a gun solve this compared to, say, talking

Holy fuck. This retarded nigger actually thinks talk-no-jutsu works on the guy trying to murder you. "You know criminal-kun, I used to be just like you...".

turning around and buzzing off?

Holy fuck. This retarded nigger actually thinks you can just walk away from someone pointing a gun at you, like you can outrun it. Nigga, people tried and they die doing that.

Matthew 26 : 52

“Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."

That is not what that meant at all and if you read the Bible in context, you would know that. I am so tired of you stupid faggots quoting the Bible and taking random verses out of context. An anecdote of the violence cycles is not referring to an incident where a nigger points a gun at you.

You know what Jesus would do to a nigger trying to kill innocent people? He'd fucking hurt them. If not outright kill them. His words to mankind was not when someone oppresses you to "turn the other cheek" and lay down and allow them to hurt you. It's that you don't deal final judgement on them to save your own soul. You can love thy enemy and still leave him as a fucking stain on the ground because he was trying to kill you. Jesus is NOT a pacifist and he never was.

Come over here and do it then, you Jim jones wannabe.

Give me a power of the Presidency to take on a nation on even footing and I'll conquer half of fucking Europe in a single day. Total Eurocuck Death.

Maybe it's the only thing you can afford. Can you eat them though?

Yes nigger. It's called HUNTING. It's been around for thousands of years.

Ergo, why do you (general you) think it would escalate so often?

At what point has it escalated too much? Considering shootings happen over the pettiest and selfish of reasons. You americans shoot school kids for pities sake.

Nigger, I know people who have died to gun violence for petty reasons. In fact, you've probably personally SEEN that incident about a year ago because it was fucking Livestreamed and was on every major news network for over a week all across the planet. Guess what? Criminals don't abide by the rules to guns. They get them anyway and no amount of legalese will stop it. Cartels and gang members still get guns in every gun banned country on the planet.

Anyway, all that aside....In the incident I'm referring to, guess what? Guy leaves gas station. Nigger asked him for a cigarette. He gave him one, went to give him a light. He accidentally drops the lighter so he kicked it over to him instead of bending over and picking it up. Nigger monkey rages about respect for all of a second, whips out a gun and chases guy, shooting him in the fuck back. He keels over from being shot and sits on the curb, bleeding and begging for his life. Nigger executes him in cold blood.

Therefore guns are useless for disputes when distance is involved.

He tried to just get distance. Didn't fucking matter. His only chance was being fastest gun in the west and if he had a gun, shooting the nigger first was only chance for survival. You really are the dumbest fucking nigger on the Farms.


Edit: I see now you are from New Zealand. No wonder you are such a cocksucker. Unfortunately for you I am quite personally familiar with New Zealands legal system and OT. The cops DO NOT do their fucking job there. They let gang bangers and wife beating retards get away with the most vicious shit imaginable. You live in one of the worst hell holes on the planet for domestic violence where nothing short of putting a gun to their child's head and pulling the trigger will get the cops to do anything against a father beating his children. You do not have any fucking right to call America a third world country when your Maori nigger gangbangers go completely untouched and unchallenged by cops.

 

[McMitch]

The truth is, you're far more exposed to a retard/violent person shooting you before you can do anything, than I'll ever be if I stay in the country I'm right now (which I may not, in the future).

All you’ve done in disarming yourself in fear of a random person committing violence upon you is give the state free reign to commit violence upon you while doing actually nothing to prevent the rando from also committing violence upon you. If not with a gun than with a knife or car.

And you’ve proven my point in that you’re incapable of accepting that the reason American citizens are armed is because they have a right, granted by their very existence, to be armed.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

But americans do.

Most Americans will never be victims of gun violence. Life is about priorities.

Otherwise you'd think they'd care for a kid moreso than a fetus who's life status philosophically is questionable but instead it's the other way around.

Anti-gunners don't care about dead kids, they just want to advance their political agenda on the backs of them. Otherwise they wouldn't be killing so many babies in the womb.

If you were okay with letting the law deal with everything why need a gun?

The law lets me have a gun.

 

[Kid Miracleman]

Why is it a right tho?

It says so in the Constitution and everyone has an intrinsic right to self defense.

Currently in the US it seems that a lot of retards legally own a gun, whatever tests you have to acquire them seem insufficient.

A lot of idiots own knives, hammers, cars, bats, alcohol and other means of harm. That doesn’t mean most people who own them are idiots or that you could stop idiots from getting harmful things without infringing the rights of citizens who are law abiding and pose no threat. We can reduce the number of idiots in society through education and other systemic means. They’re not mentioned in the Constitution but I think background checks as they exist now are sufficient. You likely wouldn’t demand stringent tests to exercise other rights in the Constitution to avoid harm so it wouldn’t make sense to do it for the right to bear arms.

 

[We Are The Witches]

All you’ve done in disarming yourself in fear of a random person committing violence upon you is give the state free reign to commit violence upon you while doing actually nothing to prevent the rando from also committing violence upon you. If not with a gun than with a knife or car.

And you’ve proven my point in that you’re incapable of accepting that the reason American citizens are armed is because they have a right, granted by their very existence, to be armed.

Can you put an example of the state committing violence against you where you'd need a gun to solve the situation, and actually manage to solve it?

A lot of idiots own knives, hammers, cars, bats, alcohol and other means of harm. That doesn’t mean most people who own them are idiots or that you could stop idiots from getting harmful things without infringing the rights of citizens who are law abiding. They’re not mentioned in the Constitution but I think background checks as they exist now are sufficient. You likely wouldn’t demand stringent tests to exercise other rights in the Constitution to avoid harm so it wouldn’t make sense to do it for the right to bear arms.

It seems to me that while someone being violent with a gun will be fatal for most people, the one without the gun will need to be way more committed, more bold, need more time, and face a reasonable degree of self-defense in order to kill someone, in general.

I've seen videos about murders shooting others, one of them that I vaguely recall was some guy getting out of the car, and start shooting people going out a mall. The first random person walking out wasn't even aware that the guy just got out, then was shot in the head, it would not have mattered if they were armed. That could have been anyone, including you.

He then proceeded to spray with bullets all the other people before they could even flee. Now the crazy person in your hypothetical, with a knife, in order to cause that amount of damage, will face a greater obstacle, and the killing won't be instant either: in a burst of rage, killing someone with a gun is extremely easy, you aim, pull the trigger and it's done, which requires a lot less commitment.

There have been also other videos where if there was no gun, innocent people would have most likely survived even if injured, but because a firearm was involved, their hasty decision at that moment pushed them to (unjustifiably) shoot the other person in the head.

Those are real scenarios where a considerable amount of damage could be inflicted to random people, very quickly. So your right to bear arms could be a very sharp doubled-edged sword, where it may cut you or those around you faster than you being able to do something about it.

 

[Kid Miracleman]

snip

I understand your point but the mass shooting scenarios you describe are extremely rare. Most defensive gun uses (of which there are hundreds of thousands every year in the US) aren’t in the context of mass shootings and don’t even involve a shot being fired. Not all criminals or bad guys wield firearms either. You’re right about the double edged sword part. Firearms are a tool that are only as useful, safe, harmful etc. as the person wielding it and the same goes for many other things. This is why I mentioned education in the post you quoted. That doesn’t mean said education should be mandatory or forced on you by the state or that we should arbitrarily decide who gets to own a firearm (or knife or what have you) and who doesn’t.

 

[redcent]

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Holy fuck. This retarded nigger actually thinks talk-no-jutsu works on the guy trying to murder you. "You know criminal-kun, I used to be just like you..."

Holy fuck. This retarded nigger actually thinks you can just walk away from someone pointing a gun at you, like you can outrun it. Nigga, people tried and they die doing that.

For starters, the professionals who use guns-aka cops- do try to de-escalate situations, depending, whenever they can. At least that's what they're supposed to be doing. I hear in the usa they're a bit "shoot first ask questions later" and I'm also willing to believe the laymen with the guns aren't any better. Why should I trust the likes of you to know what a threat is. "do defend against someone out to hurt you" yeah right afaik you'd shoot someone who sneezed in the wrong direction. I have no reason to trust your judgement.

That is not what that meant at all and if you read the Bible in context, you would know that. I am so tired of you stupid faggots quoting the Bible and taking random verses out of context. An anecdote of the violence cycles is not referring to an incident where a nigger points a gun at you.

You know what Jesus would do to a nigger trying to kill innocent people? He'd fucking hurt them. If not outright kill them. His words to mankind was not when someone oppresses you to "turn the other cheek" and lay down and allow them to hurt you. It's that you don't deal final judgement on them to save your own soul. You can love thy enemy and still leave him as a fucking stain on the ground because he was trying to kill you. Jesus is NOT a pacifist and he never was.

I doubt he was a trigger happy psychopath either.

Give me a power of the Presidency to take on a nation on even footing and I'll conquer half of fucking Europe in a single day. Total Eurocuck Death.

Lol I'm literally shaking right now lol

Yes nigger. It's called HUNTING. It's been around for thousands of years.

And you never stop to think that there are some situations where I'd agree a gun is necessary. I. E a farmer out in woop woop who shoots wild boars for example.

Nigger, I know people who have died to gun violence for petty reasons. In fact, you've probably personally SEEN that incident about a year ago because it was fucking Livestreamed and was on every major news network for over a week all across the planet. Guess what? Criminals don't abide by the rules to guns. They get them anyway and no amount of legalese will stop it. Cartels and gang members still get guns in every gun banned country on the planet Anyway, all that aside....In the incident I'm referring to, guess what? Guy leaves gas station. Nigger asked him for a cigarette. He gave him one, went to give him a light. He accidentally drops the lighter so he kicked it over to him instead of bending over and picking it up. Nigger monkey rages about respect for all of a second, whips out a gun and chases guy, shooting him in the fuck back. He keels over from being shot and sits on the curb, bleeding and begging for his life. Nigger executes him in cold blood. He tried to just get distance. Didn't fucking matter. His only chance was being fastest gun in the west and if he had a gun, shooting the nigger first was only chance for survival. You really are the dumbest fucking nigger on the Farms.

Proving my point, america is a shithole. Just say you're living in a shithole, a unique situation and it's so bad you need a gun. And it seems so bad, you literally can't imagine a world where you don't live your life in fear. I feel sorry for you.

Edit: I see now you are from New Zealand. No wonder you are such a cocksucker. Unfortunately for you I am quite personally familiar with New Zealands legal system and OT. The cops DO NOT do their fucking job there. They let gang bangers and wife beating retards get away with the most vicious shit imaginable. You live in one of the worst hell holes on the planet for domestic violence where nothing short of putting a gun to their child's head and pulling the trigger will get the cops to do anything against a father beating his children. You do not have any fucking right to call America a third world country when your Maori nigger gangbangers go completely untouched and unchallenged by cops.

Whatever you say ghetto-dude.

Most Americans will never be victims of gun violence. Life is about priorities.

They are more likely to be so than better places in the world.

Anti-gunners don't care about dead kids, they just want to advance their political agenda on the backs of them. Otherwise they wouldn't

Like I expect an A&Her to care about kids themselves. You're a bunch of assholes who wouldn't even piss on their own mother if they were on fire. You'd laugh if a kid burnt to death. Now you're all defending not a grown human, not a baby, but a cluster of cells. I don't believe you care about Jack shit.

The law lets me have a gun.

It says so in the Constitution and everyone has an intrinsic right to self defense.

your constitution also says everyone has the right to vote and the right to not live in slavery. A&Hers are pretty eager to get rid of those rights. Why are gun rights more important than others?

Edit:

For the same level of skill and effort you put into living in Australia, you will receive more valuable money in greater amounts that you get to keep more of in return. Additionally, you may do so without being relegated to one of three coastal cities.

and what is your work life like? Do you get paid annual leave? Sick leave? What's it like going to the doctors? Expensive? What's the point in earning more when everything is more expensive and where you do work it's shit anyway?

The First/Second/Third World terminology was coined during the Cold War. First World = USA, Second = USSR, Third World = Everywhere else. The reason the term third world became associated with lawless and poor countries was because almost all of the countries in that category are lawless and poor.

very well, considering I live in neither a lawless place nor a poor one I'd say I'm not living in a third world country then. Maybe you aren't either where you in particular live. But I have seen the ghettos. What's with those?

You’re sourcing your opinion through the lens of 1) propaganda aimed at corralling Americans into a more subservient lifestyle, 2) socio-political issues that have taken a century to unfold, and 3) specious qualifications from countries towards the US in an attempt to run counter to the fact that their own countries have not only been overtaken by the US in what the average US citizen can achieve in comparison, but have been overtaken to an insurmountable degree. So you third-worlders harp on this one topic, because you’ve been successfully convinced that the government maintaining a monopoly on violence could never be abused even as they’re arresting you for telling the truth.

Possibly. The usa still has issues I. E. Unaffordable health care, poor work life, unsafe environment. And even if I were to dispute this, like I said A&Hers really are miserable. If USA was so much better why are they always complaining? It's always "muh niggers", "muh societal collapse" "muh government"... doesn't sound so rosey when you listen to them, does it? You are the very people that proves that alleged propaganda.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

They are more likely to be so than better places in the world.

The "better" places of the world where you are arrested for saying mean things on the internet, and are more likely to be stabbed by an islamic refugee. All societies have trade offs, and I think being armed is better than living over there. If you're so much "better" than us, you should pay for your own defense, and stop relying on NATO then. Fight Russia on your own.

Like I expect an A&Her to care about kids themselves=

Your tactics of pearl clutching over dead kids no longer works when everyone knows you people have been killing more kids than guns ever have. Maybe you should stop doing that instead of grandstanding here. Stop mutilating minors with SRS and hormonal therapy too while you're at it.

your constitution also says everyone has the right to vote

The U.S. constitution does not actually grant a right to vote. One of the biggest problems with leftists is you are a bit too pompous for your own good, and that hurts your arguments quite a bit.

the right to not live in slavery.

If you were really against slavery, you not be pushing for gun control so hard.

 

[redcent]

The "better" places of the world where you are arrested for saying mean things on the internet, and are more likely to be stabbed by an islamic refugee. All societies have trade offs, and I think being armed is better than living over there.

I have not lived in fear of either. Pretty small trade off.

Your tactics of pearl clutching over dead kids no longer works when everyone knows you people have been killing more kids than guns ever have. Maybe you should stop doing that instead of grandstanding here? Stop mutilating minors with SRS and hormonal therapy too while you're at it.

Lolwut? Me an what trannies? The ones from your country?

The U.S. constitution does not actually grant a right to vote.

Fair enough. Still is a valuable right, I believe.

If you were really against slavery, you not be pushing for gun control so hard

Yanks look more like slaves than anyone here in meatspace.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

Yanks look more like slaves than anyone here in meatspace.

You live in a country that put people in jail for not taking a vaccine shot.

Unaffordable health care, poor work life, unsafe environment.

None of this is actually true. Most Americans are satisfied with their jobs. Most Americans are satisfied with their healthcare costs. More so, over 90% of Americans have health insurance. And US crime rates is rather low compared to the 90s so I don't see what you mean by "unsafe environment." Most Americans have paid sick leave too. You are extremely uneducated about American life so I find it a bit odd you have such strong opinions about us. Maybe you should focus more on your own country's problems instead of ours? I think arguing with A&Hers has poisoned your brain and view of reality tbh. Kiwifarms isn't real life or necessarily just Americans.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

For starters, the professionals who use guns-aka cops- do try to de-escalate situations, depending, whenever they can. At least that's what they're supposed to be doing. I hear in the usa they're a bit "shoot first ask questions later" and I'm also willing to believe the laymen with the guns aren't any better. Why should I trust the likes of you to know what a threat is. "do defend against someone out to hurt you" yeah right afaik you'd shoot someone who sneezed in the wrong direction. I have no reason to trust your judgement.

It's very clear to me you have never been in a dangerous situation in your entire life. You do not whip out a gun and point it at someone unless you intend to KILL them. There are no such things as warning shots. There are no such things as "de-escalation". That gun comes out, you're ready to fire it. Just because you sometimes don't, doesn't mean you don't have intent to kill. That gun comes out because your life is in danger and you're prepared to kill. That is what is told to every armed police officer and legal gun owner on the planet. It is basic gun safety 101.

Secondly, do you have any comprehension of what it's like to take the life of another person? Do you know what it's like to hurt another person? Have you ever hurt ANYONE in a serious way intentionally? Hurting people is not fun. If you are sane person, you do not like doing it. It doesn't matter if it's not fatal or if they deserve to be hurt. You feel awful afterwards. Killing someone changes you for the rest of your life. You will NEVER be the same psychologically ever again. The only people who have the sheer arrogance to say "you'd shoot someone for sneezing" are faggots who have no idea what it's like to hurt actually hurt another being. You have no clue what you're talking about.

Proving my point, america is a shithole. Just say you're living in a shithole, a unique situation and it's so bad you need a gun. And it seems so bad, you literally can't imagine a world where you don't live your life in fear. I feel sorry for you.

It's not fear. It's preparation. Chance favors the prepared. If a psycho breaks into your house looking to harm you or your family, you are braindead retarded if you think the cops will arrive in time to save you. They never do. You must have protection. It doesn't matter if the chance of it happening is 0.000000000001%, you don't take gambles on your life. If you don't own a gun or weapon to defend yourself quickly, you are taking gambles on the lives of you and your family. You don't buy a gun hoping you'll have to use it to defend your home. You buy it praying you'll never have to.

Here's a fun experiment for you to try. Time yourself walking through your house. Count how long it takes to get from your front door to your bed room. You tell me if you think cops will be there fast enough to save your ass. A stab happens quickly. A bullet even quicker. Life isn't a movie. It's not an anime. Fights happen faster than you realize.

Whatever you say ghetto-dude.

Oh, you're from Australia? Fuck man that's even worse. At least New Zealand is pretty....

 

[din365]

the only reason a pro-gun advocate cares about being anti-abortion is because the school is running out his . Otherwise you'd think they'd care for a kid moreso than a fetus who's life status philosophically is questionable but instead it's the other way around.

And yet, its aslways the crotch goblins of the anti-gun advocates that go do it. newsflash! Schools are already "gun-free" zones and anti-gun advocates want to keep armed SRO's out and leave them defenseless to some hug-a-thug's semen demon that got bulied. If anything, the anti-gun advocates need the school shootings because they need the corpses of children as a platform to disarm the rest of the country.

For starters, the professionals who use guns-aka cops- do try to de-escalate situations, depending, whenever they can. At least that's what they're supposed to be doing. I hear in the usa they're a bit "shoot first ask questions later" and I'm also willing to believe the laymen with the guns aren't any better. Why should I trust the likes of you to know what a threat is. "do defend against someone out to hurt you" yeah right afaik you'd shoot someone who sneezed in the wrong direction. I have no reason to trust your judgement.

Ok, then why are anti-gun advocates so dead-set against having those very people in the schools to protect the children from gun-toting psychopaths? WHY?! If they are trained individual who can talk down a crazed gunperson or plug one between the eyes of the fucker if they can't, you would think that is the one person you would want in the schools, and not just glorified hall monitors?

its not so fun for them if the "clay pigeons" have somebody to help the would-be shooter's brain matter to self-identify as wallpaper.