Cultural Appreciation vs. Cultural Appropriation?

There's no line to draw. People being influenced by other cultures has happened since the beginning of time and is completely natural. The idea that adapting and emulating things people like about other countries is somehow wrong is idiotic.
 
Appreciating one's culture is going to an area or reading up on it and admiring the beauty of the culture, its people, cuisine and other things to offer and should be encouraged.

Appropriating is taking an aspect of a foreign culture and making it part of your identity despite having no connection to such, like Chris's "Cherokian" bullshit.
 
When you see a big booty bitch with a sway in her step and you whistle at her and say "if that don't be the finest ass I ever saw, my nigga! Girl you shake it! Shake it all the way home!", that's appreciation.

When you run up to her and grab her ass like you finna swing a bowling ball and you in the special olympics and u tryna take the ball home wit u that's appropriation.
 
WireSponge dijo:
There's no line to draw. People being influenced by other cultures has happened since the beginning of time and is completely natural. The idea that adapting and emulating things people like about other countries is somehow wrong is idiotic.
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I think the whole idea depends on the context of the culture that is being emulated. Weaboos certainly get a lot less shit than people like Rachel Dolezal. Japanese people and Black people have (of course) both been oppressed, but Japan is an economic and cultural powerhouse while Black communities are still segregated and oppressed, not to mention the giant shitstain that European colonization left on Africa. This is just a guess though.
 
To be semi-serious, I still don't give a flying fuck about "appropriation" as being some cultural crime.

As an example.

The dominant musical culture of America has almost become the musical culture of the entire world. The dominant strain of that culture is black music. Jazz and rap and other mostly black music more or less took over American music in the 20th Century. Do you know why this happened? People liked fucking listening to it. It was good music. It still is.

There are actual relevant social justice issues related to this, like how black artists often got conned out of their works and paid next to nothing for them, while the white artists who made lots of money from the very same shit got away with it. I'd go into more details but I've run out of (((parentheses))) right now.

So is this ultimately "appropriation" when, in reality, black music IS American music?

Oh wait, I forgot to include this.

 
When it comes to people talking about how white Americans "appropriate" other cultures, I just like to think about how so many other countries in the world flat out copy the US in terms of fashion, music, etc.
 
Jeff Jeff dijo:
When it comes to people talking about how white Americans "appropriate" other cultures, I just like to think about how so many other countries in the world flat out copy the US in terms of fashion, music, etc.
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SJWs have ways of dealing with that, though. When other countries "appropriate" our culture, they call it "cultural imperialism" and this is somehow an awful crime. As in, it's actually an awful crime that they do this of their own free will. The mere existence of our culture is a crime.
 
ksxooo dijo:
I think the whole idea depends on the context of the culture that is being emulated. Weaboos certainly get a lot less shit than people like Rachel Dolezal. Japanese people and Black people have (of course) both been oppressed, but Japan is an economic and cultural powerhouse while Black communities are still segregated and oppressed, not to mention the giant shitstain that European colonization left on Africa. This is just a guess though.
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Rachel Dolezal didn't appropriate anything, she's just a crazy cunt who wants to be black. And weebs aren't made fun of because they like Japanese culture, they're made fun of because they act like Japan is better than everywhere else.

Furthermore, how is this relevant to whether or not imitating other cultures is acceptable? The treatment of minorities doesn't have anything to do with taking practices from other cultures.
 
WireSponge dijo:
Rachel Dolezal didn't appropriate anything, she's just a crazy cunt who wants to be black. And weebs aren't made fun of because they like Japanese culture, they're made fun of because they act like Japan is better than everywhere else.

Furthermore, how is this relevant to whether or not imitating other cultures is acceptable? The treatment of minorities doesn't have anything to do with taking practices from other cultures.
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Name a single Japanese person, ever, who complained about "cultural appropriation." (American liberals of Japanese descent do NOT count.)
 
A few months ago, I found this post on tumblr after another Kiwi mentioned it during a discussion about cultural appropriation in the SJW thread (I think). It gives an interesting view on how it may be used to preserve cultural elements that would otherwise die out, in this case using Overwatch's Farah and her native american inspired skins:

http://coelasquid.tumblr.com/post/147459403888/castleships-okay-im-only-gonna-say-this-once

I shared it with a friend of mine (who is native american) to get her point of view and well...she didn't agree and I got blocked the next day.
 
Hatoful Dandy dijo:
A few months ago, I found this post on tumblr after another Kiwi mentioned it during a discussion about cultural appropriation in the SJW thread (I think). It gives an interesting view on how it may be used to preserve cultural elements that would otherwise die out, in this case using Overwatch's Farah and her native american inspired skins:

http://coelasquid.tumblr.com/post/147459403888/castleships-okay-im-only-gonna-say-this-once

I shared it with a friend of mine (who is native american) to get her point of view and well...she didn't agree and I got blocked the next day.
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I'm sure this has resulted in your opinion turning to full agreement with the shrieking REEEEEEEEEE monster.
 
Jeff Jeff dijo:
When it comes to people talking about how white Americans "appropriate" other cultures, I just like to think about how so many other countries in the world flat out copy the US in terms of fashion, music, etc.
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WireSponge dijo:
Rachel Dolezal didn't appropriate anything, she's just a crazy cunt who wants to be black. And weebs aren't made fun of because they like Japanese culture, they're made fun of because they act like Japan is better than everywhere else.

Furthermore, how is this relevant to whether or not imitating other cultures is acceptable? The treatment of minorities doesn't have anything to do with taking practices from other cultures.
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Rachel Dolezal is a white woman who was born white, yet she identifies as a black woman and is only famous because for involvements in black communities and black civil rights. How is that not appropriation?

I guess my discussion is more about the impacts of cultural appropriation itself.
 
ksxooo dijo:
Rachel Dolezal is a white woman who was born white, yet she identifies as a black woman and is only famous because for involvements in black communities and black civil rights. How is that not appropriation?
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It's not appropriation because Rachel Dolezal can't be black. Appropriation implies that you're taking something, and you can't "take" someone else's race. Rachel is just a crazy person who is not and never will be black.
 
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