Cultural Appreciation vs. Cultural Appropriation?

Jon-Kacho dijo:
No one gets pissed when anime uses sacred Christian symbolism for the sake of looking cool though. Even @Hat barely cares.
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If cultural appropriation was real (because it isn't) Japan would be the biggest offender on earth. It's not just Christianity, Japan has turned everything from the King Arthur legend to Hindu religion into cute anime characters they stamp on fuck pillows.
 
Varg Did Nothing Wrong dijo:
This is about 1 step away from going to Renaissance Faires or HEMA events and saying "you shouldn't wear armor if you're not an actual knight"

The Soviet Union doesn't exist and even if it still did, living in Massachusetts or whatever, my first thought wouldn't be "oh that's a Soviet military officer" if I were to see this fucktard.
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Okay fair enough, I will change my statement to. "You shouldn't put on uniforms that are in current use and currently relevant."

But yeah, putting on certain clothes will signal certain things.
If you put on the Nazi armband or a white KKK hood, well.... Either it'll be done for parody or it's a clear endorsment of those movements and idiologies.

And of course, he is free to endorse the idiology of the soviet union... It's a very opressive and totalitarien idiology that takes freedom away from the people and shoots however disagrees with the selected few in leader positions.
But he is free to condone it as much as he wants as long as he doesn't commit violent acts himself or break the laws of the country he lives in.

Sigh, honestly though I feel like most of these people just don't know what communism is and how it affected its people.

Fun thing, i'm from Denmark, I live here in Denmark. And i've gotten two widely different constant convictions about my country, ever since Bernie Sanders came with his. "Denmark is such an awesome socialistic country!" speech doing his presidential campaign.

And... We are not a socialistit country. We... We have wellphare state and socialist programmes, but... We also have fundemental capitalist principles in the country, free marked is still a thing here.

But yeah, somehow one half think we are this perfect Utopia because we are socialists/Communists.... which is not true. We are not socialists or communists.

Or, some thing this is a hell whole where we have no freedom because communism... We are not communists... I think you want Romania for that one. Shes.
Our country is just... Normal. It's boring, it's not what all those people think it is, it's so weird to hear those far left Americans talking about it and they are so removed from reality.

Thinking you must be communist to have a free healthcare system... erhm no. No... You don't have to go to the exstreme. There is a middleway to be found guys... And I am rambling I am sorry. I am new to the forum.

My friend kept insisting I should give it a try just to be able to vent because well, as a person whom don't think Trump is so bad, I can't even speak my opinion out loud in my own country without being snorted at. It sucks.
 
Bombshell dijo:
Fun thing, i'm from Denmark, I live here in Denmark. And i've gotten two widely different constant convictions about my country, ever since Bernie Sanders came with his. "Denmark is such an awesome socialistic country!" speech doing his presidential campaign.

And... We are not a socialistit country. We... We have wellphare state and socialist programmes, but... We also have fundemental capitalist principles in the country, free marked is still a thing here.
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I'm going to respond to parts of your rambling.

1. The technical name for countries like Denmark is "socialist democracies". There's also the widely used term "Eurosocialism".

2. "We just have a welfare state and socialist programs, but we're not socialists" is like saying "We have a fascist secret police and fascist military-economic programs, but we're not fascists!"

3. Almost all countries in the world are capitalist. There is almost no country with a truly free market. Denmark having a "free" market (despite being a social-democratic country and therefore having more regulation on the market than most countries in the world today) doesn't make it not-socialistic.


Bombshell dijo:
But yeah, somehow one half think we are this perfect Utopia because we are socialists/Communists.... which is not true. We are not socialists or communists.
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People who think your country is a perfect utopia do so in most cases because of the socialistic aspects of your social-democracy.
 
I do know what we are, I live here.

Yes we are a Social-democratic country. But that also means we are not pure socialists.

That's a thing many fail to understand, there is more than just one kind of socialism. But when people say just. "socialism." I will have to assume they mean pure socialism due to the lack of specifications in the statement.
And what many leftist Americans actually mean when they say. "Socialism." is "Communism." because they don't know the difference.

We are not a pure socialist country. That's a statement that is untrue, we have a free and competetive marked, we have different salaries that reflect peoples qualifications and job difficulty. We have working UNIONS which keep our goverment in check and ensures the benefit of the working class.
Our system is based around these Unions, they are an important fundament in our current system, and well, a pure socialist country would not have unions like we do.

Yet again, the leftists of America seem to fail to realise how this work, how it can work like this in Denmark, that it's not because goverment has complete control, but because we always have a discourse taking place between goverment and the workers through the Unions as our middle man and mouth piece.

And well. People whom are unemployed don't get to live like king and queens. This is a false idea some Americans seem to have.

Hell, people whom are unemployed and therefore is on goverment support are being outright monitored to make absolute sure there is no funny buisness going on. That those whom claim they are sick really are sick, and those whom claim they can't find work need to proof that they ddi apply for a set number of jobs every week. I think it's five a week you need to aply for if you are unemployed but by good health.
Our goverment really don't want people to be unemployed, out to work with you lol XD

I shouldn't talk though as I work as a therapist and my salary is paid for by the goverment.
Which I think is nice because the ill people whom I work with don't have to pay to get the help they need. But I know that alone is not a thing in the US.

My country is not perfect, but I think we have a really good thing going for us, and I like it a lot.
 
You're right in that Comrade Faux isn't being appropriative in the same way as a white girl at Coachella in a war bonnet, or using the god Ganesh as a cute phone charm design. But he is still wearing the garb of a position he did not earn, and a country he does not belong to.
And yeah, he is openly advocating for an ex-country that is synonymous with oppression, in a country that's working against it. It is one thing to think communism is good and another thing to support the Soviet Union's ideology in a very in your face manner. (people can obviously hold their own opinions of course, I'm not playing thought police.)
A white or black or Pacific islander girl wanting to wear a sari because it is beautiful seems a lot less offensive to me than a dude living a privileged life and attending a nice university wearing the military uniform of a country who would never allow him to live that same life.
 
Yeah, one is a very symbolic endorsement of an idiology that murdered thousands of people. Basically saying. "I think all that murdering was a okay."
And yeah, I have to stand by the do not wear official uniforms, unless that the uniforms are so out of date that clearly what we are doing is a historical re-enactment or whatever.

Sad thing though is, if comrade Faux ever faced the soviet or a similar country, he would be the first to die. He wouldn't make it.
I mean, a little weakling whom has to kling unto a dead symbol to stay relevant? Yeah okay, good luck out there in the real world.


And the other is just... It's cute. Who cares? Or perhaps even. "I think this culture is very fascinating and have awesome merchandise." yeah what ever, who is being harmed?
I have Buddha figures in my appartment, what are they going to do? Shoot me? Who is it hurting?

And when I visit other countries I am actually giving stuff away with norse mythology symbols on it, i want to spread the love and word. So yeah... What ever.
 
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