Susie Green & Mermaids UK - "Trans Kid Support Charity", Susie had her underage kid get GRS

This is poetry and art from someone who has been through a lot in their lives, it’s their way of expressing their feelings and the pain they’ve gone though. Don’t make assumptions that this was an easy thing for them to write. The charity is giving a voice to those that have gone through this process. All we’re looking for is love, not judgement or oppression. No one is glorifying anything here.
I hate this sort of argument. Just because something is "art" doesn't mean it's responsible to share it with children, and likewise just because it's a young person exploring their feelings around their self harming scars doesn't mean it can't glorify or encourage other children to self harm.
 
Cutting is yet another social contagious mental illness that mostly affects teenage girls. How they don't see the parallels I do not know. Or perhaps they do. At least if kids are cutting themselves, CAMHS can help them to stop and deal with whatever anxieties they're trying to manage, without it being called conversion therapy.
 
Mermaids are on the grift again - the article was published 3 days ago and they haven't hit 20k
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Mermaids launches new urgent Crowdfunder to support trans youth

From the linked article
“With trans youth facing urgent problems such as accessing healthcare, bullying in schools, increasing media transphobia and an emergency ban on puberty blockers, the work that Mermaids do is more critical than ever.”

Their begging page Urgent Appeal: Stand with trans youth now
£17,106.89 raised of £20,000 goal

Where’s Bomberguy and all the troons and allies lining up to donate?

I hope Mermaids are fucked.
 
I hope Mermaids are fucked.
Could just be a well timed temperature gauge. Trans stuff came up in the election quite a bit and this fundraiser might be to see the damage that was done to those matters.
They need our help. But the Charity Commission inquiry, which has run on for more than 18 months, is significantly impacting our services, staff and volunteer wellbeing, our reputation, and our finances. Securing funding is increasingly difficult, and corporate partners are hesitant to work with us due to potential backlash.We have been incredibly patient, cooperating fully, frankly, and openly with the Commission at all times. But we simply can’t afford to wait any longer for the Commission to publish their findings, for funders to unpause, and for things to get better in a few weeks, months, or years. Not when trans young people are suffering right now.
Poor things, what caused the inquiry to drag on? People quitting like the person running the shitshow, your ludicrous lawsuit against the LGB alliance, new revelations like the pro-pedo advocacy, WPATH getting caught out or one of many other scandals.

I'm extensively pissed that the Charity Commission have stalled it out this far because it smacks of waiting for Labour to put their thumb on the scale. But should they not dissolve Mermaids I'd be unsurprised anyway given the nature of charities in the UK.
 
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According to their last accounts, they spend around £200,000 a month. Twenty grand won't even cover payroll. If they're begging for such a pathetically small amount then they really are fucked.
200k a month? On what? That’s an insane amount of money for a small charity. I looked through the account return and it’s very vague.
 
200k a month? On what?
About 20% was "legal", which will include the expense of trying to shut down other charities they don't like. The rest will contain a lot of generous salaries. Taking out staff costs, I doubt overheads for a helpline with such a small target audience could come to anything like the amount they declare.

"Charity", my ass.


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For anyone interested, here is the Finances section from their last Annual Report (to year ending March 2023); pp. 14-15:
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"As a result, there are no uncertainties about the charity's ability to continue as a going concern."
I am suspicious, to say the least, about the timing of this crowdfunder coinciding with Jolyon Maugham's most recent grift - i.e., his claims that there has been a deluge of "trans youth suicides" caused by the Cass Review that has been covered up by the NHS, and his crowdfunding for a Good Law Project case about the pb ban. (There is a good thread somewhere on twitter that breaks down how these claims of suicide and of the cover-up are bullshit - I'll try to find it.) I wonder if Mermaids are trying to scoop up some of that sweet cash from the same crowd that Jolyon fundraises from?

Edit: found the thread that debunks Jolyon's latest grift:
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Time for some more facts that the Good Law Project may find rather inconvenient.
I've now worked through all the serious incident reports and other data in the Tavistock's board papers from October 2017 to April 2023, when the GIDS waiting list transferred fully to Arden & GEM and, unlike GLP, I've read them properly.

I can find only three deaths identified as suic*des in which the deceased was either on the GIDS waiting list (2) or undetr service's care (1).

I've also got 5 recorded suic*de attempts, one of which was picked up on by the CQC and reported on in an inspection report.

On top of that there are three deaths in the GIDS patient group/waiting list where cause of death was unknown when reported plus one for which a mortality report was requested, indicating a death by natural causes. That leaves two deaths reported under the GIDS heading where the patients had been discharged for over six months - proabaly to an adult GIC waiting list - so there's no report as those cases are closed as far as GIDS are concerned.
So, that's a total of just three suic*des, subject to confirmation by a Coroner, and three possible suic*des during the period from October 2017 to April 2023.
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Coroner data is subject to registration delays and there are a few wrinkles in dealing with adolescents, notably in the 10-14 age group where a verdict of suicide can only be recorded where there is clear proof of intent and not on the basis that intent can be inferred from the deceased's actions.
Factor in reporting delays within the NHS and its very difficult to marry up NHS incident reporting with Coroner's data without having names to work with.
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Yes - and of the 25 cases of transgender and non-binary identified individuals reported in the press as possible suic*des since Jan 17, seven have an inquest pending and a couple took close to four years to conclude.
For all those cases I have the date of death and the date of the inquest, where that has been completed.
What I have from the Tavistock papers is, at best, either the month or quarter that the Trust was notified of a death, which can be subject to delays.
This makes tying in the Tavistock data to that from Coroner's reports and media coverage problematic given the lack of other case details in the Tavi's board papers, which is an issue for me when I'm trying to factcheck claims based on different bits of data by reverse-engineering an audit trail.
(Apologies for lack of archives btw, I can't get Twitter to archive properly and Nitter won't archive anymore with Ghostarchive - archive.md has some issue that means it only works for me in Tor).
 
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To show some undeserved fairness to Mermaids the overpaid staff is typical of UK charities.
Another bubble that needs to pop as soon as possible.
It's why I haven't donated to any national charidee since 1992. Oxfam's scandals alone should have destroyed the whole sector, but they get enough guarding from the state and the media to make them essentially untouchable.
 
Webberley's been struck off. On the "technicality" of having no friends in medicine who will stand up and sign a form saying she's competent. The alternative would be sitting an exam, but she wants the troon style exam of all her answers being declared brave and stunning and docking points is a hate crime, not the old fashioned sort where you have to prove you know what you're talking about.

Doctor who gives puberty blockers to trans children loses licence​

Helen Webberley says that her GenderGP business has 10,000 patients but denies that she is treating them personally

James Beal, Social Affairs Editor
Friday July 19 2024, 7.20am BST, The Times

Dr Helen Webberley said that her licence had been revoked on a technicality
The General Medical Council has revoked the licence to practise of a controversial British doctor whose offshore clinic treats transgender children.
Dr Helen Webberley, 55, will lose her licence in Britain from Friday but will remain on the GMC’s register, following the decision by the medical regulator.
The decision was made by the GMC after she did not comply with a registered doctor’s legal obligation to revalidate their licence every five years.

Webberley runs GenderGP, an online company registered in Singapore, which facilitates access to puberty blockers and hormones for adults and children.
She told The Times that the decision would not prevent her from continuing in her role at GenderGP and said that she did not personally treat the patients.
Michael Webberley was struck off in 2022 for prescribing hormones to patients as young as nine without proper assessments

Michael Webberley was struck off in 2022 for prescribing hormones to patients as young as nine without proper assessments
Webberley said: “I fought incredibly hard to keep my licence, both for myself and also for the community, because it’s important to set precedent. Now to have it taken away on a technicality, if you like, is very heartbreaking, but I will continue my work as I have done.”
GenderGP assesses adults and children with gender dysphoria and connects them to doctors outside Britain, in the European Economic Area (EEA), for prescriptions for hormones.
This means UK children as young as eight can access puberty blockers, despite the Cass Report, a review of trans healthcare led by the paediatrician Dr Hilary Cass, concluding there was no good evidence for prescribing them.
Webberley was suspended from practising medicine in 2022 after she was found to have committed serious misconduct by a Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service panel over her treatment of three trans children. She successfully appealed against the decision at the High Court in 2023.

Webberley said that she had not used her licence to practise since 2017, when investigations into her conduct by the GMC began. She said that she could not revalidate her licence because she could not find a “responsible officer”, or suitable person, to vouch for her fitness to practise.
Doctors are required to notify the GMC of a designated body and responsible officer to do this.
Webberley said: “The difficulty is … I no longer have a connection with an NHS trust or a GP surgery. I don’t have a responsible officer. It’s also very difficult to get that connection after what I’ve been through.”
She says she was offered the chance to take an exam in order to revalidate her licence, but declined because they “don’t have one for doctors working in transgender medicine”.

Michael and Helen Webberley are now thought to be living in Spain while their business is registered in Singapore
The GMC then withdrew her licence, which it can do if it determines that guidance to revalidate has not been complied with “without reasonable excuse”.
Webberley, from south Wales, said that she would carry on her work at GenderGP.
She said: “I’m not allowed to directly treat and manage individual patients [but] I’m not treating them.
“Treatment means sitting down with somebody, making a diagnosis, making a treatment management plan, prescribing medication, following up investigations and results.
“With GenderGP we have a whole team of professionals who do that. I don’t treat patients individually. They [the GMC] don’t have a regulatory role in my wider work.”
A GMC spokesman said: “Every licensed doctor must take part in the revalidation process, which provides assurance that they are keeping their knowledge up to date, are fit to practise and that no concerns have been raised about them.
“Doctors who do not have a connection to a designated body or suitable person are able to revalidate in a number of ways, including by passing a written multiple choice test called a revalidation assessment.
“There are 12 assessments to choose from, and doctors are encouraged to choose one closest to their most recent area of specialty. We cannot tailor assessments to every doctor’s specific area of practice.
“If doctors do not comply with our guidance on revalidation without reasonable excuse, we may withdraw their licence to practise.”
Webberley and her husband Michael, who set up GenderGP in 2015, are now believed to live in Spain.
As an online business based abroad it is not registered with the Care Quality Commission, but Helen Webberley has denied basing it in Asia to avoid scrutiny.
Michael Webberley, 67, a former gastroenterologist, was struck off in 2022 for prescribing hormones to patients as young as nine without proper assessments.
GenderGP was also criticised in the High Court earlier this year for giving “dangerously high” levels of hormones to a 16-year-old boy that could have resulted in sudden death.
Webberley has called the court claim “untrue”. The Times reported last month that GenderGP, which has more than 10,000 patients, had ditched health advisers in favour of an AI algorithm providing “self-service” treatment.
Behind the story
The health secretary Wes Streeting has indicated that he will seek to make permanent the temporary three-month ban on puberty blockers being supplied to children (James Beal writes).
But Helen Webberley said children at her clinic were still getting hold of them.
Laws to ban the drugs being supplied by private or offshore clinics were passed by Victoria Atkins, Streeting’s predecessor, in emergency legislation before the general election.
They are due to expire on September 3, but the Labour government suggested last week that it would, subject to court proceedings, renew the ban with a view to making it permanent.
It followed the Cass Report, which found there was no good evidence to support the global clinical practice of prescribing hormones to under-18s to pause puberty or transition.
However, Webberley, in an interview with The Times last month, said patients at her offshore clinic were going abroad, using foreign doctors and chemists, to side-step the ban.
She said: “The parents of young people who are affected by this ban will find another way. The last thing is that they will allow their child to stop the puberty blocker and start going through puberty. That’s going to really really affect them mentally and physically.
“I know mums and dads who are just going on holiday to get their puberty blocker instead. They’re going to wherever they’re going on holiday this year.”
Distancing GenderGP, her clinic, from their actions, she said: “We don’t have to find those opportunities, the parents find those ways of managing it.”
Now the revelation that she has lost her GMC licence to practise may increase concerns about her clinic, which operates out of reach of regulators such as the Care Quality Commission.
It follows disclosures that GenderGP had created an AI algorithm to make treatment recommendations rather than using health advisers
However, given the state of transgender healthcare in the UK, with long waiting lists for treatment, it may not deter transgender patients from turning to GenderGP.
 
In a remarkable slap-down to the Mermaids types who've been peddling the lie about troons doing the world a favour and unaliving themselves, a UK Government-comissioned independent review has confirmed that that they, in fact, have not and thus that British taxpayers will continue to pay for their nonsense via our socialised healthcare.


Not archiving because ICBA and because Gov.uk doesn't DFE.
 
Not archiving because ICBA and because Gov.uk doesn't DFE.
Very nice and, while I agree with your assessment, I am archiving just in case.


By Professor Louis Appleby, University of Manchester
Department of Health and Social Care adviser on suicide prevention

Aim of this review​

I have reviewed data provided by NHS England (NHSE) on suicides by young patients of the gender services at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust, based on an audit at the trust. The specific aim is to examine evidence for a large rise in suicides claimed by campaigners.

Summary of conclusions​

  1. The data do not support the claim that there has been a large rise in suicide in young gender dysphoria patients at the Tavistock.
  2. The way that this issue has been discussed on social media has been insensitive, distressing and dangerous, and goes against guidance on safe reporting of suicide.
  3. The claims that have been placed in the public domain do not meet basic standards for statistical evidence.
  4. There is a need to move away from the perception that puberty-blocking drugs are the main marker of non-judgemental acceptance in this area of health care.
  5. We need to ensure high quality data in which everyone has confidence, as the basis of improved safety for this at risk group of young people.

Suicide risk in gender dysphoria​

The evidence on suicide risk in children and young people with gender dysphoria is generally poor. Most studies are methodologically weak, being based on online surveys and self-selected samples and coming from biased sources. However, there are good reasons to believe that their risk is high compared to other young people. They have often experienced prejudice and intimidation, isolation and family conflict. They may have mental health conditions such as depression and anxiety. There are high rates of autism. These are known risk factors - suicide in any group is usually the result of multiple risks acting in combination.

It therefore seems reasonable to assume that services offering non-judgemental support may contribute to lower risk. However, the evidence for “gender-affirming care” in the form of puberty-blocking drugs is unreliable. In contrast, a robust study from Finland published earlier this year (Ruuska et al, BMJ Mental Health 2024) reported that suicide risk was reduced after gender reassignment but that the improvement was explained by the treatment of co-existing mental ill-health.

Public discussion of suicide​

Responsible reporting of suicide in the media is an important strand of suicide prevention, and a central feature of the national suicide prevention strategy in England. Guidance has been developed by Samaritans, originally for the news media but with wider applicability to any public discussion of suicide, and increasingly relevant to social media.

The risks include:

  • alarming stories about suicide causing distress to people who are themselves at risk
  • identification - when someone sees in themselves a connection with a person who has died by suicide; leading to:
  • imitation and suicide clusters in people with similar characteristics
As a result, the media - and users of social media - are asked to:

  • ensure that any claims about suicide are evidence-based and from a reliable source
  • avoid alarming and dramatic language
  • avoid the impression that suicide is the expected or likely outcome in certain situations
  • avoid oversimplifying suicide by attributing it to a single cause which could be the basis of identification

Claims​

The claims have been led by the legal campaign group the Good Law Project, who are challenging the decision by the previous Health Secretary to end the prescription of puberty-blocking drugs by private clinics to children and young people with gender dysphoria.

The central claim, made on X (formerly known as Twitter), is that there has been a large rise in suicide by current and recent patients of the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) service at the Tavistock since an earlier restriction of puberty-blocking drugs that followed a High Court decision in a case (Bell v Tavistock) in December 2020. The rise is described as a “surge” in suicides and “an explosion”, indicating a substantial and, by implication, unequivocal increase. There are multiple references to children dying in future because they are unable to access puberty-blocking drugs.

This claim is said to be based on unpublished data provided by 2 members of staff at the Tavistock, described as whistleblowers. On Twitter/X the evidence is presented in screenshots of extracts from the records of Tavistock Board meetings and other documents. These variously refer to suicides, deaths from unspecified causes and “safety incidents”. A specific claim is that there was one suicide by a patient on the GIDS waiting list in the 3 years before the High Court judgment, and 16 deaths (rather than suicides) in the 3 years after the judgment. The whistleblowers are said to have alleged a cover-up by NHSE.

These claims have been retweeted thousands of times by other campaigners and members of the public. They have been repeated by some leading journalists, though there is nothing to suggest that they have examined the evidence for themselves. They too have adopted the language of “dying children”.

NHS England appraisal of Tavistock audit​

I have examined the figures provided by NHSE on deaths in each year between 2018-19 and 2023-24. They are based on an internal audit by the Tavistock of deaths among current and former GIDS patients, divided by age (under 18 or 18 plus) and cause of death (suicide or other/suicide not confirmed).

It is important to acknowledge in describing suicide statistics that the figures are not dry data; they represent real lives lost.

The numbers are small: by this breakdown, by year, age and cause, the highest count is 2. Conventional practice in presenting small numbers, based on guidance from the Office for National Statistics, is not to present figures lower than 3, to avoid possible identification of individuals. In this review I refer to aggregate figures only.

In this period of 6 years the data show a total of 12 suicides: 6 in the under 18s, 6 in those 18 and above. In the 3 years leading up to 2020-21, there were 5 suicides, compared to 7 in the 3 years after. This is essentially no difference, taking account of expected fluctuations in small numbers, and would not reach statistical significance. In the under 18s specifically, there were 3 suicides before and 3 after 2020-21.

Alongside the figures, there is a summary of the problems faced by the young people who died. These include mental illness, traumatic experiences, family disruption and being in care or under children’s services.

These figures clearly do not support the main claim that suicides have risen steeply since the High Court judgment. They do not support the claim of one waiting list death before and 16 after the judgment. The information confirms the multiple factors that contribute to suicide risk in this group.

There are limitations to this analysis, reflecting data quality and comprehensiveness. First, the figures are for “NHS years”, April to March, so the timing of the High Court judgment does not fall neatly between years. Secondly, these figures do not include details of where in the care pathway the patients were when they died. Thirdly, they give no further information on the deaths described as being from other causes or “not confirmed as suicide”.

I have also had sight of the internal audit by the Tavistock on which the NHSE summary is based. There are small differences in the time period covered and in certain figures. There is more information about the care received and about dates of death.

The audit suggests that some of the deaths referred to as “not confirmed as suicide” are likely to have been unnatural deaths, possibly implying suicide as the cause, although there is little detail. Including these cases, however, would not affect the overall conclusions because, with small numbers, single-figure fluctuations can be expected.

The audit confirms the multiple risks that many patients had faced. It shows that the deaths occurred at different points in the care system - including waiting, inpatient care and post-discharge. Concerns are expressed about patients who are waiting or at a transition from one care setting to another. Any causal attributions to any one element of care would go beyond the data and should be avoided.

NCMD figures​

NHSE have also provided figures from the National Child Mortality Database (NCMD). These are suspected suicides in all people under 18 in England. Cases are notified to NCMD with additional information about the individuals who have died, including the presence of distress relating to gender identity.

References to gender distress in the NCMD cases occur more frequently in the most recent years, the highest single year figure being in 2021-22. It is not possible at this stage to link these cases to the GIDS audit. There is no information on whether these young people were reporting gender dysphoria, seeking help from the NHS, or in contact with the Tavistock. The rise is more likely to reflect young people increasingly expressing their distress through conflicts about gender and more frequent recognition by professionals.

NCMD also report a higher figure for suicides in under 18s as a whole in 2021-22. This may be the result of random fluctuation in small numbers but it does coincide with a crucial year in the COVID-19 pandemic, when restrictions may have adversely affected the emotional health of some young people, such as autistic people. Co-occurrence of autism and gender dysphoria is well established.

In summary, I think it is unlikely that the higher NCMD figures have any link to the availability of puberty blockers but they do need further exploration.

Conclusions​

1. The data do not support the claim that there has been a large rise in suicide by young patients attending the gender services at the Tavistock since the High Court ruling in 2020 or after any other recent date. The figures for the 6 years covered in this review are 12 suicides in total, 2 per year on average, of whom half were under 18. With small numbers, single-figure differences can be expected and causal explanations are unreliable.

The patients who died were in different points in the care system, including post-discharge, suggesting no consistent link to any one aspect of care. They had multiple social and clinical risk factors for suicide.

However, it is likely that there has been a rise over a longer period as young people at risk have increasingly presented with gender dysphoria and referrals to GIDS have risen.

There is a degree of uncertainty about the deaths recorded as “suicide not confirmed”. It is possible that more information on these cases would result in amended figures for individual years but the numbers remain too small to affect my conclusions.

2. The way that this issue has been discussed on social media has been insensitive, distressing and dangerous, and goes against guidance on safe reporting of suicide. One risk is that young people and their families will be terrified by predictions of suicide as inevitable without puberty blockers - some of the responses on social media show this.

Another is identification, already-distressed adolescents hearing the message that “people like you, facing similar problems, are killing themselves”, leading to imitative suicide or self-harm, to which young people are particularly susceptible.

Then there is the insensitivity of the “dead child” rhetoric. Suicide should not be a slogan or a means to winning an argument. To the families of 200 teenagers a year in England, it is devastating and all too real.

3. The claims that have been placed in the public domain do not meet basic standards for statistical evidence. To be reliable, evidence should be objective, unbiased and open to independent scrutiny. It should admit uncertainty.

Campaign groups are often selective about evidence - there is nothing wrong with this until it becomes misleading and potentially harmful. The evidence put into the public domain for an “explosion” of suicides is not unbiased nor has it been independently verified. There seems to be no suicide expertise behind the claims.

4. Suicide by any young person is a profound tragedy: it should be seen as an indictment of our society. Young people with gender dysphoria may well have experienced ostracism and abuse, and their distress is likely to be heightened if services are perceived as rejecting. It is unfortunate that puberty-blocking drugs have come to be seen as the touchstone issue, the difference between acceptance and non-acceptance. We need to move away from this perception among patients, staff and the public.

This is a group of young people who need compassion and security, skilled clinical assessment, early treatment for mental illnesses such as depression, support within their families and schools and online, and an expectation of recovery and a fulfilling future. It is vital that these are the assurances the NHS and its partner agencies are able to convey.

5. In the end this is about a group of young people at risk of suicide and our collective responsibility to their safety. This means specialist health services with the capacity to respond to rising demand and appropriate skills in general services. It means a measured public discourse, making sure we do not stoke up prejudice or cause unnecessary alarm to the young people and their families.

We need to ensure also that we have high quality data in which everyone has confidence. The number of deaths should be monitored, not only in gender services but other mainstream databases, as is now happening in NCMD and in my own unit, the National Confidential Inquiry. Future prevention will depend on it.
 
Susie isn't finished grifting a living from the vulnerable, insane and perverse.

For the low low cost of £200 plus £150 a month you can enrol your child (for a minimum of 12 months) on a subscription at her new quasi legal tranny kid pathway website.

For this princly sum you get regular conversations with somebody who barely speaks English who will tell you that you should crossdress your child and fill it full of horse piss. They will also take a look at the child's blood and see how much scope there is to fuck them up.

Of course this doesn't include the cost of the actual puberty blockers and cross sex hormones the munchy parents crave. But don't worry, Suze will sell you them and she thinks she's found a loophole in the law.

First, Anne Health is hiring clinicians – nurses, doctors, and endocrinologists – who are not based in the UK (even though the company is) which means their specialist doctors in the European Economic Area are free to write prescriptions and “are regulated by their own medical bodies outside of the UK”.

Then, once prescribed, because the ban relates to England, Wales and Scotland but not Northern Ireland, the prescriptions will be sent to alternative addresses in Northern Ireland, from where patients from mainland Britain can collect them. “We’ve got a network of Northern Ireland families who are willing to take receipt of medication sent to them,” said Green. “The families just need to go over there and the kids need to get the medication and if they bring it back it exploits this legal loophole.”

Not stated here, but the website FAQ says thes 'doctors' could be outside the EU. They'll sign off on any old shit you demand as long as you pay enough, ship them to Northern Ireland and then I guess you have to get a ferry to Northern Ireland? Or maybe ask somebody there to post them? That bit isn't clear.

Anyway, this cunt belongs in fucking jail.
 
Susie isn't finished grifting a living from the vulnerable, insane and perverse.

For the low low cost of £200 plus £150 a month you can enrol your child (for a minimum of 12 months) on a subscription at her new quasi legal tranny kid pathway website.

For this princly sum you get regular conversations with somebody who barely speaks English who will tell you that you should crossdress your child and fill it full of horse piss. They will also take a look at the child's blood and see how much scope there is to fuck them up
Worth noting that she's specifically sourced this loophole through the Good Law Project who just got a shoutout in what @Ugandan discussions posted as being full of shit.
I'm not a lawyer, but this sounds like a conspiracy to me:
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Therefore, “there would be no breach of the Regulations if a young person (alone or in the company of an adult) were to travel to an EU country with a view to securing access to PBs and then for the young person to bring the drugs back into the UK for his or her own use.”
Ms Green, using this advice, established a route by which she believes her clinic can help provide puberty blockers to under-18s. First, Anne Health is hiring clinicians – nurses, doctors, and endocrinologists – who are not based in the UK (even though the company is) which means their specialist doctors in the European Economic Area are free to write prescriptions and “are regulated by their own medical bodies outside of the UK”.
Then, once prescribed, because the ban relates to England, Wales and Scotland but not Northern Ireland, the prescriptions will be sent to alternative addresses in Northern Ireland, from where patients from mainland Britain can collect them. “We’ve got a network of Northern Ireland families who are willing to take receipt of medication sent to them,” said Ms Green. “The families just need to go over there and the kids need to get the medication and if they bring it back it exploits this legal loophole.”
Susie is a UK citizen, who is, through a UK-based company, conspiring with other UK citizens to break UK laws. Surely this is illegal?
Still going after them as young as possible, too:
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But the loopholes that Ms Green’s clinic will use to provide medication to young people raise questions about the effectiveness, scope, and robustness of the government’s ban. i understands that DHSC officials are willing to explore the possibility of criminal sanctions against anyone involved in the supply of puberty blockers.
A legal challenge to the ban on private providers of puberty blockers was lodged in the high court last week, prompting a further escalation in the disagreements surrounding the medication.
Ms Green said there would be no minimum age for patients at her clinic. “We will support whoever comes to us,” she told i, explaining that for those too young for puberty blockers “there’s a pre-medical pathway” which would involve psychological support.
Bring it on. If she were prosecuted while Labour is in power I'd love it even more, since she views herself as a leftist par excellence. (Optimistic, I know).
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Ms Green forwarded to i the legal advice she obtained from David Lock KC. It confirmed the opinion of Mr Maugham, that the ban doesn’t cover either possession of puberty blockers, the use by a patient of this medication, nor its importation. And the attempt to criminalise those prescribing puberty blockers outside the UK to British young people cannot be effective.
“In our opinion the Regulations do not criminalise any conduct by an individual if that conduct takes place wholly outside of the UK,” wrote Mr Lock.
“It follows that a person (even if usually resident in the UK) will not commit a criminal offence under the Regulations if he or she is party to the sale or supply of PBs where the relevant act takes place wholly outside of the UK.”
But it doesn't "take place wholly outside the UK" - Susie is openly organising, through a UK entity, to assist UK residents to break UK laws. What Lock is describing is people leaving the UK, securing medication, taking it, and then returning to the UK. He is not describing the plan of "Anne" to facilitate the collection of illegal drugs from Northern Ireland. This woman has to be stopped.
Anyway, courtesy of "Anne," we have a photo of the freaks responsible for this shit, including one of Jack - it appears that that new pfp she put up a few months ago was from this shoot:
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His fucking jaw, lol.
archive of article; archive of anne.health
And she has a new "fund:"
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Susie is a UK citizen, who is, through a UK-based company, conspiring with other UK citizens to break UK laws. Surely this is illegal?
Still going after them as young as possible, too:
Reads like a really long-winded way of saying "let's smuggle drugs and push them on kids even though it's illegal."
 
Susie is a UK citizen, who is, through a UK-based company, conspiring with other UK citizens to break UK laws. Surely this is illegal?

Reads like a really long-winded way of saying "let's smuggle drugs and push them on kids even though it's illegal."
I do not think she's breaking laws, the reason being as the article smugly points out is that the drugs have not been banned. Prescribing them for gender dysphoria in under 18s is what's been clamped down on and I do not believe obtaining or even using drugs from other countries is specifically restricted except in the cases of controlled substances. If nothing else though their intent to use the open border with Ireland would suggest that there would be a lot of questions at border control normally if it was just getting shipped into the UK. The source for their legal advice also would suggest it's all bullshit.

Even if there might not be anything specifically relating to the supply of the medications themselves giving them to children would definitely be an issue. The same way that a no-necked father slamming his son full of testosterone to "man him up" would soon be facing a judge parents doing this to people under the age of consent would be in serious trouble. Susie and her company being the financially benefiting suppliers and blatantly promoting it be given to children likely means they would be in hot water too.

I suspect at some point Otterly will see the updates and she has actual knowledge of this sort of thing so will be able to provide chapter and verse of all the legal and ethical shortfalls involved with this latest scheme.
 
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