Powerpuff Girls Reboot - Because this thread was going to happen at some point.
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I was going to make the Marty McFly comment as well but I see someone else got the idea.
The art style here is pretty sad.
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That plus heavy handed moral bullshit, when the charm of the original is that it really did not take itself seriously at all. Why pander to SJW shit? Kids are not stupid enough to give a shit about that nonsense. It takes a college education to get stupid enough to buy into that.
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And yet, I find it hard to believe that they did anything worthwhile there besides bitch about pro-social values and act like overall dicks.
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Higher pants, clean face, short sleeves, and longer hair. It's subtle and borderline nitpicky but ultimately it makes him look less like the gang member he was meant to be and more like a fuckboy. Also they heavily rounded out a lot of his angles which, when you're trying to make a character that's meant to be imposing or threatening, you don't do.
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When a reboot is failing as horribly as this one, it's hard not to notice the simple things. Call it nitpicking if you will but compared to the original he just looks lame. And like Coster said, removing all the sharp angles definitely didn't help.
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From face value, he definitely looks similar to his original version. But it's the little changes and differences that can really make the difference when it comes to a character like that.
With the new beads on Bubbles, they fit her character and don't really take anything away from her. With Ace though, it just felt like they took aspects of him that made gave him presence in the show.
Anyway, watched one of the videos that went more in depth into the show and GOOD GOD. How is it that the animation is WORSE than the original? Not saying the original was bad in any shape or form, quite the opposite actually. But with how far technology has come along, you would think they would make something that actually looks decent. It feels like they didn't even try with this one.
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The original had a simplistic, somewhat anime-influenced style with lots of fast motion and exaggerated action. I think this style had a lot of influence on subsequent shows and is particularly well suited to Flash. So the reboot is in a position of having to compete against a lot of better done imitations of that style. In short, it does a worse job imitating its own franchise than a lot of other stuff.
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Honestly, my main gripe with the reboot is that they've forgotten PPG wasn't JUST for kids, or even little girls. In fact, it started out as a project called "Whoopass Stew!" and they were called The Whoopass Girls. Even after it was retooled into The Powerpuff Girls, it still had some adult jokes that made it past the censors.
They're trying way too hard to pander to kids and to the Tumblr crowd. It's a flaw in several cartoons today. They try to appeal to kids without understanding how to. Some of the best cartoons never relied on this, which is part of why they were so good.
They're trying way too hard to pander to kids and to the Tumblr crowd. It's a flaw in several cartoons today. They try to appeal to kids without understanding how to. Some of the best cartoons never relied on this, which is part of why they were so good.
I'm not saying that I don't think the animation is atrocious. Trust me, I think Flash sometimes is the death of the industry. But I'm noticing that a lot of the people on here are saying that it's okay to pick out the little stuff BECAUSE of the animation style being bad.
Most 90's animations were in itself bad if you compared it to shows that aired in the 30's-40's (the Golden Age). This was the age of simple animation. What made it work however was the characters and story being really fun to get into. There wasn't SJW pandering, but there still was nerdy humor . Some of you talk about how memes in cartoons are getting really annoying, but did you forget that video games got a ton of references back in the 90s? PPG with Zelda, Ed, Edd, n Eddy with Pac-Man, Billy and Mandy (yes I know that was 2000's, but still) had Resident Evil/Mario Kart/DBZ references, etc. Why didn't anybody complain about that? Was it because it wasn't as subtle?
I don't know, I just think you guys are complaining way too much on a show that's not catered towards your demographic anymore. People always want to return to the glory days, so when someone looks at the "new" Ace he's a fuckboy because he doesn't have facial hair and regular pants. Aren't you guys being a tad like Chris by complaining about subtle changes that don't mean too much (ACE HAS FACIAL HAIR, SONIC DOES NOT HAVE BLUE ARMS)? Of course I hope none of you go to a Walmart and deface a PPG stand.
Most 90's animations were in itself bad if you compared it to shows that aired in the 30's-40's (the Golden Age). This was the age of simple animation. What made it work however was the characters and story being really fun to get into. There wasn't SJW pandering, but there still was nerdy humor . Some of you talk about how memes in cartoons are getting really annoying, but did you forget that video games got a ton of references back in the 90s? PPG with Zelda, Ed, Edd, n Eddy with Pac-Man, Billy and Mandy (yes I know that was 2000's, but still) had Resident Evil/Mario Kart/DBZ references, etc. Why didn't anybody complain about that? Was it because it wasn't as subtle?
I don't know, I just think you guys are complaining way too much on a show that's not catered towards your demographic anymore. People always want to return to the glory days, so when someone looks at the "new" Ace he's a fuckboy because he doesn't have facial hair and regular pants. Aren't you guys being a tad like Chris by complaining about subtle changes that don't mean too much (ACE HAS FACIAL HAIR, SONIC DOES NOT HAVE BLUE ARMS)? Of course I hope none of you go to a Walmart and deface a PPG stand.
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I mean, I think it's dumb and poor character design choices, but it's not anything I'm losing sleep over. The reboot already lost any nostalgia it might have for me when I learned Tartakovsky wasn't part of the production crew.
Also I think the Sonic arms thing, autism aside, isn't terribly similar for the design choice. Sonic's arms were made flesh-toned in the Sega Genesis days so you could actually pick them apart from his body in his sprite. It's a design choice whose usefulness is outlived, whereas Ace was designed deliberately to look threatening and he's just objectively lost a lot of that with his new design.
It is autistic though to totally trash a show just because a gang character lacks facial hair and regular pants. I mean, I think the show is bad because of the writing but if it had great storylines and character development I wouldn't complain about Ace's design and then say the show sucks. That's just stupid.
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We don't dislike the show just because of his redesign though. Yes it's minuscule in comparison to the writing, animation ect., but the point remains that it's one of the many things the reboot attempted to "improve" upon and failed at. If Ace looking like a dork was the only flaw there wouldn't be such a huge backlash. It's not so much an outrage as it is a pity.
Honestly, the fact that even some kids aren't enjoying the show says something.
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Yeah but the point I was trying to make is that when people put on their 90s glasses they tend to nitpick shit that doesn't contribute anything into why the show is bad.
It's sort of hypocritical to say that mentioning memes and having cell phone/selfies being taken in cartoons ruins the show when yet I said earlier a lot of earlier cartoons made use of popular culture (like video games and anime references). Why is it such a big problem now? Because it's appealing to the SJW crowd?
It's sort of hypocritical to say that mentioning memes and having cell phone/selfies being taken in cartoons ruins the show when yet I said earlier a lot of earlier cartoons made use of popular culture (like video games and anime references). Why is it such a big problem now? Because it's appealing to the SJW crowd?
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I think I am going to get a lot of hate for saying that, but I don't think some of the writing is as awful as some people make it out to be. Of 8 episodes I decided to watch for the sake of getting how bad the reboot is, around 4 episodes were overall kind of okay with me. Especially the one where they were on monster island or the major was for a short time badass to defeat some character in a reference of Donkey Kong. That said, the show in general is not good. Bubbles VA does a not so good job most of the time, the internet meme references are too dumb and I doubt I have to say much about the stylistic choices, cause anyone else already went into them. I just want to add the following two things:
1. I find the overall tumblr-esque/Scott Pilgrim esque designs of background characters highly distracting. The original PPG decided for its background filling characters to get for certain asthetics and only work with that small poll of proportions and that was it. The new one is all over the place and filled with rejects for Clarence. Which is retarted. Even Star vs the Forces of Evil decided to go with only certain design choices instead of all of them.
2. The animation comes of sometimes as too fluent. I think. I don't know how to describe it otherwise, but the way how we get wider frames , characters standing out more from the backgrounds and the way characters move, it incidentally ends up highlighting the shortcomings of the design choices and how badly paced the plotting is just more.
All that said (and myself thinking that the reboot/sequel should be cancelled sooner than later) part of me thinks that at the worst so far this show is just mediocre. Oh, the people behind it are retarted, because they like to think they created something "fresh" and hip with the sjw crowd, but their product in itself? Bad, but compared to other shit out there, more in the way a Seth Rogen movie is bad. So a certain nostagia for the original aside, I don't see why certain people get as butthrt over the show as they do and I suggest, better ignore its existence and hope it goes the way of angry orange as a result of it, instead of giving it extra attention
1. I find the overall tumblr-esque/Scott Pilgrim esque designs of background characters highly distracting. The original PPG decided for its background filling characters to get for certain asthetics and only work with that small poll of proportions and that was it. The new one is all over the place and filled with rejects for Clarence. Which is retarted. Even Star vs the Forces of Evil decided to go with only certain design choices instead of all of them.
2. The animation comes of sometimes as too fluent. I think. I don't know how to describe it otherwise, but the way how we get wider frames , characters standing out more from the backgrounds and the way characters move, it incidentally ends up highlighting the shortcomings of the design choices and how badly paced the plotting is just more.
All that said (and myself thinking that the reboot/sequel should be cancelled sooner than later) part of me thinks that at the worst so far this show is just mediocre. Oh, the people behind it are retarted, because they like to think they created something "fresh" and hip with the sjw crowd, but their product in itself? Bad, but compared to other shit out there, more in the way a Seth Rogen movie is bad. So a certain nostagia for the original aside, I don't see why certain people get as butthrt over the show as they do and I suggest, better ignore its existence and hope it goes the way of angry orange as a result of it, instead of giving it extra attention
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I'm not trashing the show because ACE SHOULD HAVE A SHITTY MOUSTACHE AND SQUARE BODY
, just pointing out his design compared to the old one is definitely weaker in the context of what the character is supposed to be.
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Well for starters, a bunch of the references being made stemmed from the Internet. And when TV tries to emulate these, it almost always ends up being extremely cringeworthy or otherwise poorly handled in a "Did you get it? Look how relevant we are!" way. Plus some of them aren't even current, but years old. It reeks of the writers trying too hard to relate to modern entertainment and doesn't feel natural.
You can literally say the same thing about any cartoon trying to incorporate pop culture into their writing, especially shit like Family Guy, The Simpsons, Futurama, etc. And who cares if its from the Internet or not? Past cartoons tried to be relevant to modern times as well, just using different mediums. Billy and Mandy's Chicken Ball Z and Hokeymonsters episodes were a response to people watching Toonami and the popularity with DBZ and Pokemon. Do you think the writers in that instance were trying too hard? Or do you think it's maybe you just find the references cringy because you're used to the Internet's stupidity?
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It boils down to context. You can't just throw a reference out into a random scene and hope it'll be a hit with the young'ins. Never mind the fact you're using examples I'm not even familiar with, but the same logic applies. Doesn't matter if it happened then or now. And I hate to burst your bubble hun, but many people are sick of memes and the like being forced into cartoons these days. It's not just little 'ol me being the no-fun police.
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