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Allanon dijo:
Anyway, same tired old claims that have been disproven eight billion times before aside, the more I think about the 2COA ruling, the more I'm convinced they went into it already having decided they would deny Vic's appeal. Even if you take their decision at face value, it's so utterly uncharitable it's the kind of ruling you'd expect from a court who's been actively agitated and aggravated by the appellant for ages and is just looking for excuses to slam the book in their face. Claiming that Ty was trying to 'surprise' the defense with information they all already knew before he filed it, deciding his remedy of the improper filings counted as 'withdrawing it' and disallowing it being replaced with the exact same document, dismissing out of hand what evidence was already present which was more than enough to pass a TCPA challenge from the first amended filing, and then saying 'no, he should be forced to pay more fees'? If the court were just angry with Ty's mess up - as if the defense had zero screw ups, and as if they don't have frequent filings by people who don't even know what they're doing in the first place - then why would they go the extra mile to penalize Vic more?
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If they wanted to screw Vic over, they wouldn't have waited 2.5 years to do it, they'd just say "yeah Chupp right, fuck off" instead of a giant document laying out all of Ty Beard's errors. Texas law seems very clear that what Ty did is an irrevocable error that cannot be remedied, therefore the evidence presented by the opposing party (who actually has evidence) wins. Sucks, but that's the law.
Allanon dijo:
I've said it multiple times in the lawsuit thread now, but really. The only answer for this ruling is that the 2COA saw a defamation filing about 'foreign dubbed cartoons nobody ever cared about' with over 1200 pages of filing and got angry that it was wasting their time. Even if we were to assume for a moment we lived in full clown world and the 2COA believed the 100 million rapes, the decision should have said that the defense conclusively proved Vic is a megarapist with over 100 victims and he should be happy he's not facing criminal charges, not hyper-focused on criticizing Ty's filing practices.
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LMAO they all but said "yeah he'd have a case here if his lawyer hadn't committed all these errors with evidence" and handed Vic a fantastic legal malpractice case.
 
Random Internet Person dijo:
The way you talk about the 2COA, you make it sound like there should be an avenue to sue them because they went into the decision already knowing what the wanted to do: screw Vic over.
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It's been discussed exhaustively that judges should have some kind of avenue to sue, reprimand, or effectively censure them for bad behavior, but there simply isn't, so they misbehave. See: Chupp.
Save the Loli dijo:
If they wanted to screw Vic over, they wouldn't have waited 2.5 years to do it, they'd just say "yeah Chupp right, fuck off" instead of a giant document laying out all of Ty Beard's errors. Texas law seems very clear that what Ty did is an irrevocable error that cannot be remedied, therefore the evidence presented by the opposing party (who actually has evidence) wins. Sucks, but that's the law.

LMAO they all but said "yeah he'd have a case here if his lawyer hadn't committed all these errors with evidence" and handed Vic a fantastic legal malpractice case.
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Okay, but that's just wrong. You're assuming they have some kind of axe to grind with Vic going into it, which is frankly insane. What happened is that they saw a case they thought was irrelevant and also huge and therefore too much of a pain to go through, so they put it off for over two years. Then when they finally decided to get around to it, they went through with a fine-tooth comb to find solid legal reasons to throw it out. And again, if it were purely 'I'm so sorry but your lawyer screwed you over' then they would have ruled some things in Vic's favor and not demanded Chupp charge Vic more.

Once again, the only interpretation for their decision is that they decided going into the situation that they were already ruling against Vic. You just don't see judges behave in a manner like this, where they nitpick every small error and act like it's completely impossible for them to ignore that and use their discretion to rule on the evidence anyway (it isn't) solely for one side unless that judge is already angry with the side they're blasting. There's no reason for them to be angry with Vic, and so the only conclusion is "they decided a defamation case majorly focused on tweets between people who voice foreign cartoons nobody watches is inherently frivolous, and looked for excuses to rule in that manner". Other people have already taken apart the 2COA's claims, such as the fact that the Rule 11 Agreement did not apply to what the 2COA claims it did. The fact that they're better at cloaking 'this matter is inherently irrelevant and insulting to the court because we are boomers' than Chupp doesn't change that they did exactly the same thing Chupp did.

An addendum: this case did not take 2.5 years to read and mull over before they ruled. There can be no other answer than that they put off handling the case, either because they were too busy or because they decided the case was not important enough to review in a timelier manner. The fact that after two and a half years their response was just a more verbose 'Chupp was right about everything except that he should have punished you harder, fuck off' makes it pretty clear for which reason the delay existed, IMO.
 
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Allanon dijo:
Okay, but that's just wrong. You're assuming they have some kind of axe to grind with Vic going into it, which is frankly insane. What happened is that they saw a case they thought was irrelevant and also huge and therefore too much of a pain to go through, so they put it off for over two years. Then when they finally decided to get around to it, they went through with a fine-tooth comb to find solid legal reasons to throw it out. And again, if it were purely 'I'm so sorry but your lawyer screwed you over' then they would have ruled some things in Vic's favor and not demanded Chupp charge Vic more.
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What's frankly insane is you believe the courts somehow hate anime so much they don't care about the case, notwithstanding the fact that anime has almost nothing to do with it. The result would've been the exact same if Vic had been an oil company boss suing other oil company bosses or a cattleman suing other cattlemen or whatever Texas judges supposedly care about. Sure, plenty of the filings are irrelevant shitpiles to wade through, but the case is mostly about how the TCPA should be applied (and tied in with another case regarding appeal money). And when your lawyer screws you over so badly it ruins the entire ground for suing, you don't get to win on a few counts or something unrelated like the awards to the defendents.
Allanon dijo:
Once again, the only interpretation for their decision is that they decided going into the situation that they were already ruling against Vic. You just don't see judges behave in a manner like this, where they nitpick every small error and act like it's completely impossible for them to ignore that and use their discretion to rule on the evidence anyway (it isn't) solely for one side unless that judge is already angry with the side they're blasting. There's no reason for them to be angry with Vic, and so the only conclusion is "they decided a defamation case majorly focused on tweets between people who voice foreign cartoons nobody watches is inherently frivolous, and looked for excuses to rule in that manner". Other people have already taken apart the 2COA's claims, such as the fact that the Rule 11 Agreement did not apply to what the 2COA claims it did. The fact that they're better at cloaking 'this matter is inherently irrelevant and insulting to the court because we are boomers' than Chupp doesn't change that they did exactly the same thing Chupp did.

An addendum: this case did not take 2.5 years to read and mull over before they ruled. There can be no other answer than that they put off handling the case, either because they were too busy or because they decided the case was not important enough to review in a timelier manner. The fact that after two and a half years their response was just a more verbose 'Chupp was right about everything except that he should have punished you harder, fuck off' makes it pretty clear for which reason the delay existed, IMO.
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So you somehow know Texas civil procedure better than three Texas appeal courts judges with about a century of experience between them, okay. By all means, show me some cases where Texas courts let lawyers get away with breaking Rule 11 agreements. And even if it was, it still wouldn't prove your absolutely insane point that they delayed on this case and then dismissed it because they hate anime. That's absolutely hilarious in self-importance.
 
Save the Loli dijo:
What's frankly insane is you believe the courts somehow hate anime so much they don't care about the case, notwithstanding the fact that anime has almost nothing to do with it. The result would've been the exact same if Vic had been an oil company boss suing other oil company bosses or a cattleman suing other cattlemen or whatever Texas judges supposedly care about. Sure, plenty of the filings are irrelevant shitpiles to wade through, but the case is mostly about how the TCPA should be applied (and tied in with another case regarding appeal money). And when your lawyer screws you over so badly it ruins the entire ground for suing, you don't get to win on a few counts or something unrelated like the awards to the defendents.

So you somehow know Texas civil procedure better than three Texas appeal courts judges with about a century of experience between them, okay. By all means, show me some cases where Texas courts let lawyers get away with breaking Rule 11 agreements. And even if it was, it still wouldn't prove your absolutely insane point that they delayed on this case and then dismissed it because they hate anime. That's absolutely hilarious in self-importance.
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It isn't that they "hate anime", please stop being incredibly stupid. It is that they have no interest in anime and no connection to the part of the world that does. They dismiss the case out of hand not out of hatred but apathy - they assume 'random voice actors for imported chinese cartoons are slap fighting on twitter' and literally every part of that sentence is something a judge would have zero interest in. They did not consider whether the TCPA should be applied according to the law, because from the very outset they determined 'this cannot be relevant and is inherently frivolous'. The long delay and absolute joke of a ruling that didn't even mention Chupp's error in determining Ron Toye was an independent contractor of Funimation, including the fact that they came up with the mind-bendingly confusing decision that Lemoine deserved to be paid more for doing a worse job than anyone else, makes that clear. You can cope and seethe about how this is Ty's fault so that you have someone you can blame that can actually get some kind of comeuppance about it, but that's clearly not what happened.

It's already been established that the Rule 11 agreement was not broken because it did not apply to the situation. Stop putting words in my mouth because you're bitter about Ty's boomering. Ty's boomering is irrelevant. This is always the situation that would have happened, because the real boomers here are the judges. We can hope that maybe SCOTX or even the SCOTUS will get past the immediate bias of 'people arguing about foreign cartoons on twitter' to see the actual issues at hand, as I believe Chupp eventually began to at the end, but attempting to argue that isn't what happened with Chupp initially, and then the 2COA when it put off the case for 2 years only to ignore everything and nitpick comparatively minor concerns in a pretty blatant case of 'looking for an excuse to throw it out' is basically just coping with 'this case was totally legit and would have gone places if not for that shyster ruining all of it!!'
 
Allanon dijo:
It isn't that they "hate anime", please stop being incredibly stupid. It is that they have no interest in anime and no connection to the part of the world that does. They dismiss the case out of hand not out of hatred but apathy - they assume 'random voice actors for imported chinese cartoons are slap fighting on twitter' and literally every part of that sentence is something a judge would have zero interest in. They did not consider whether the TCPA should be applied according to the law, because from the very outset they determined 'this cannot be relevant and is inherently frivolous'. The long delay and absolute joke of a ruling that didn't even mention Chupp's error in determining Ron Toye was an independent contractor of Funimation, including the fact that they came up with the mind-bendingly confusing decision that Lemoine deserved to be paid more for doing a worse job than anyone else, makes that clear. You can cope and seethe about how this is Ty's fault so that you have someone you can blame that can actually get some kind of comeuppance about it, but that's clearly not what happened.
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You understand what I'm saying, don't play stupid. Anime has fuck all to do with the court's decision, because this case isn't about anime in the slightest. Nobody cares the people involved are related to anime dubs besides us, the peanut gallery. It's about people saying words on the internet. You might as well argue the courts don't care about auto mechanics because they ruled you can say mean things about them on Yelp.
Allanon dijo:
It's already been established that the Rule 11 agreement was not broken because it did not apply to the situation. Stop putting words in my mouth because you're bitter about Ty's boomering. Ty's boomering is irrelevant. This is always the situation that would have happened, because the real boomers here are the judges. We can hope that maybe SCOTX or even the SCOTUS will get past the immediate bias of 'people arguing about foreign cartoons on twitter' to see the actual issues at hand, as I believe Chupp eventually began to at the end, but attempting to argue that isn't what happened with Chupp initially, and then the 2COA when it put off the case for 2 years only to ignore everything and nitpick comparatively minor concerns in a pretty blatant case of 'looking for an excuse to throw it out' is basically just coping with 'this case was totally legit and would have gone places if not for that shyster ruining all of it!!'
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"Comparatively minor", nigga, you can't insert evidence into a case in a manner that breaks the rules of civil procedure. That's the law.

The only one coping here is you since you've developed an insane conspiracy theory that it's because the courts don't care about anime instead of the actual merits of the case. That's KickVic-tier lunacy. Go back through the CoA decision when they all but imply that Vic had a case if not for his lawyer fucking up and imply Vic should sue Ty. The way they ruled on the case isn't the work of people who didn't give a fuck because it's anime.
 
In that case I have a more on-topic question: If Vic copied Markiplier and made his own 'for charity' onlyfans, what percentage of people on twitter seething about how this proves he's been a sexual deviant all along would have his nudes on their computer? I'm thinking only about 60% because of how many orbiters always start echoing things the core group say without actually knowing anything about the situation. The main people like Lauren and Jennifer would have them, but random hangers-on like Popehat and Animat probably wouldn't bother to look into it at all and just tweet out things like 'Vic has videos of him holding down a minor and forcibly violating her on his onlyfans, what will the Vic-stans say now?!'
 
Allanon dijo:
In that case I have a more on-topic question: If Vic copied Markiplier and made his own 'for charity' onlyfans, what percentage of people on twitter seething about how this proves he's been a sexual deviant all along would have his nudes on their computer? I'm thinking only about 60% because of how many orbiters always start echoing things the core group say without actually knowing anything about the situation. The main people like Lauren and Jennifer would have them, but random hangers-on like Popehat and Animat probably wouldn't bother to look into it at all and just tweet out things like 'Vic has videos of him holding down a minor and forcibly violating her on his onlyfans, what will the Vic-stans say now?!'
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All of them will spin it how they'll spin it. It's pretty much a given at this point.
 
The funniest thing is that Monica can only experience motherhood & pregnancy is due to the 3 episodes Bulma was pregnant before the tournament of power.Sad existence.
 
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TheClappening dijo:
They're hoping for no gay underwear this time.
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Nope, gay pants now.
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Allanon dijo:
In that case I have a more on-topic question: If Vic copied Markiplier and made his own 'for charity' onlyfans, what percentage of people on twitter seething about how this proves he's been a sexual deviant all along would have his nudes on their computer? I'm thinking only about 60% because of how many orbiters always start echoing things the core group say without actually knowing anything about the situation. The main people like Lauren and Jennifer would have them, but random hangers-on like Popehat and Animat probably wouldn't bother to look into it at all and just tweet out things like 'Vic has videos of him holding down a minor and forcibly violating her on his onlyfans, what will the Vic-stans say now?!'
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There is no way in fucking hell i am programming an OF for him. Twitch is enough of a bitch 😂
 
TexOffender dijo:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mWgfb_-P5IM
And the women of simpcast were so creeped out by Vic that they invited him back.

That unfunny cuck Alex Stein will be on too. Grooooan...
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They have that mongoloid Brittany Venti on. She's still mad that she got BTFO by some weeb cartoon avatar. I bring this up because she says her videos shouldn't have been taken down cause calling the Vtuber company "pedos' isn't slander or defamation. This is literally the argument Monica and her fat friends had. What fucking idiot.
 
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