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They can and do use it for negotiation. This happens all the time.
This has even happened with CHRIS before, in the Snyder case.
Info On Chris’ Case Posted By Greene County Circuit Court - Posted 7/29/22. First hearing is scheduled for 8/8 at 9:30 AM
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They can and do use it for negotiation. This happens all the time.
This has even happened with CHRIS before, in the Snyder case.
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Has anyone thought of the possibility Chris has gone full fuck it, I'm not getting what I want and I'll just act out?
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If you insist on buying a Ferrari you can't afford to get to where you're going when a beat-up Ford would have got you there fine, that's on you. It's Barb who insisted on getting the most expensive lawyer and it was because she was charged with a felony for her own crimes. When it was just Chris she left him to the public defender.
Barb was greedy and stupid.
Also some of that money went to expanding the hoard.
That actually could happen. The prosecution could have wanted conditions of a plea bargain that J&DR couldn't give, and there could be an informal agreement that once it's past the grand jury they finalize the deal they've already made. I don't actually think this is the case, but it wouldn't be a huge surprise either.
Chris being a giant moron and fucking everything up is always the leading hypothesis when something like this happens though.
I think the least likely possibility is that the DA and Heilberg themselves couldn't work out a deal and one or both took unreasonable positions.
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In this case Barb and Chris bought the Ferrari because they thought it would let them outrun the cops (because it works in the movies).
Barb and Chris both believed that if they just spent enough, they wouldn't be convicted of anything. (Hey, it works in the movies, and it worked for OJ.)
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It would be unethical had Rob Bell actually promised that specific result, but there's no reason to believe he did that.
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I imagine he didn't promise it, rather they just told him to do it, and he said he'd try, but that a plea deal would be a more realistic outcome. Ultimately though, the client is the boss.
I imagine Barb and Chris together were quite insufferable to work for, and he probably had some idea just based on their obvious stupidity, but it almost certainly exceeded his expectations, and by then it was too late.
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fun fact: In the old 6-day week used in Japan, today (the 8th) is "Taian" - supposed to be good luck all day.
(ROKUYO – Lucky & Unlucky Days of the Japanese Calendar)
(ROKUYO – Lucky & Unlucky Days of the Japanese Calendar)
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Lucky for us or lucky for the cow?
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I guess we'll see in about 5 and a half hours.
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too far away!!
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I really hope the case file is updated, more than just "Felony charge" or something like that so we get some decent information about what to expect tomorrow.
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The online stuff is just a list of hearings and one line summaries of documents. If you want more information you have to request it from the clerk, and anything involving evidence or medical information will be private -- so most of it. You might be able to get some procedural documents.
If it goes to trial, you should be able to request documents from the trial itself.
It's a grand jury, Chris is not going to be there. (There are circumstances where he can be, but since the defense gets no input, there's no point in him being there.)
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Everyone excited about today is setting themselves up for disappointment.. I know this is a drought, but goddamn. At least we might see the 12 pages of autism from Kengle today but placing bets on it being some weird prophetic nonsense.
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Oh I am expecting more from tomorrow as they will have to disclose that, but I am talking about the Crime they are trying him for will have a more definite name.
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Unless the grand jury goes and changes the charges on their own (unlikely), the crime will be exactly the same as it is now. The prosecution had an entire year to add additional charges while it was in J&DR. I suppose the prosecutor could change their mind and ask for direct indictment on additional charges.
That "INCEST W/OWN CHILD" is just an abbreviation in the database for the statute/code he is charged under. The name will always show up as that in the system. What's important is the charge.
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J&DR was a closed court. Now that it's moving into Circuit Court, things are different. The Law experts here have explained this in previous posts. Hearings would likely be closed, but an actual trial would likely be open and thus eligible for cameras to be present.
Courts have no requirement to stream open trials, though some did during Covid as a way to keep courts "open". It's not technically or financially feasible for all courts to stream.
Big name trials that you might have seen broadcast (Kyle Rittenhouse, Depp v. Heard, etc) usually require coordination from media outlets, called a "pool". The reason is that pools are less intrusive in the courtroom than 20 different media outlets all there with their own cameras (though this kind of circus has happened before). Usually, the local television stations will get together and everyone will either chip in equipment (thus pooling their resources) and/or money to rent equipment (generally remote controlled cameras.) The whole point of this, again, is to prevent the courtroom from being filled with 30 news photographers with tripods and big cameras covered in various accouterments.
ALL of that relies on the approval from the Judge, though as I said before, the Judge is more likely to grant the privilege of cameras in the courtroom to credentialed media than a bunch of weens asking to post their cell phone recordings to YouTube.
All that said, it's unlikely the local media (Especially as the "big four" TV affiliates in Charlottesville are owned by just two companies, one of which owns three of the four) is going to make this a "trial of the century" with gavel-to-gavel coverage, and it's probably not big enough for someone like CourtTV to pay a lot of attention to. MAYBE they cover it to some degree just for the shock factor, but that might not even include a camera crew. In my experience around the media, they're way more likely to show up for sentencing than the actual trial. At most all we would get out of that is a shot of the back of Chris' head while an anchor says "Christine Chandler was sentenced today to death by combination electric chair and firing squad for having sex with their own mother."
If someone could make a convincing case that they are a documentary filmmaker, maybe someone could get an "independent" camera in there. Live streaming would open a whole can of worms on the technical side if we're being honest.
(Note: much like the other knowledgeable people around here, this is all based off my experience and may not be accurate in regards to Virginia's laws regarding this kind of stuff)
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If Chris pleads guilty to, no contest to, or is found guilty on a felony? Absolutely
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It's a good thing he isn't. I think Chris would want to talk at the jury, seeing that he hasn't learned anything from his last court appearances.
I have a feeling Chris could read a weens letter advising him to talk to the jury about the collective shift, which Chris would have no hesitation in doing, even with Heilberg's advice not to do so.
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