(07/29/2022) - New Chris Jail Letter - Barb is described as being "zombie-like" and like a "scared deer in a headlight", Chris shit talks jail staff, Chris adamant about the fundraiser

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Second-Hand Boat Supplies dijo:
Chris is getting precariously close to stumbling across a moment of self reflection as he talks about how Region 10, the hospital, and social workers aren't doing their jobs and helping him. Given enough time thinking about it, even Chris will realize that if half a dozen different state offices for slow-in-the-minds are trying to help you, you're also a slow-in-the-mind.
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Even though Chris admits it (at face value), he knows he's a slow in the mind. He knows he has problems and goes to Region 10 for therapy (unfortunately, they can't help with his unhealthy coping). Chris will never come to a realization that no matter how many Region 10's he goes to, he'll treat them the same. He needs to go to a serious institution with aggressive psychotherapy, not basic therapy.
KuwabaraTheMan dijo:
It sucks what happened to her but let's not pretend she's a good person.
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DrunkServal dijo:
That's why I think she just got into the marriage/parentage for financial stability.

But she was never a mentally stable person. She refused to cook anymore after they weren't interested in one dinner. How petty can you be. If people don't want the food I make I just shrug and put it in some tupperware, they'll eat it later.
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It's sad that Barb dragged everyone with her. Bob was smart and level headed, once he met Barb, she turned him into an angry, paranoid, petty shut in. She put Cole in danger and almost killed him, and refused to give info that Cole needed. It was a good thing he left her when he was able to. The rest of her family (what's left of it), in short, despise her. Chris? Well let me say a drug addict would make a better mother than Barb.
 
Hogar Grupal dijo:
It's sad that Barb dragged everyone with her. Bob was smart and level headed, once he met Barb, she turned him into an angry, paranoid, petty shut in. She put Cole in danger and almost killed him, and refused to give info that Cole needed. It was a good thing he left her when he was able to. The rest of her family (what's left of it), in short, despise her. Chris? Well let me say a drug addict would make a better mother than Barb.
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It's kind of sad. As much as Bob was a bad parent, he was an interesting person who was very enthusiastic about music and was smarter than the others in his house. Unfortunately we all know how that ended.
 
KuwabaraTheMan dijo:
Barb was a shit wife and mother.

Never cooked. Never cleaned. Ignored her husband. Ignored Chris after he turned 18. Made her husband sleep in his music room. Took out mortgages and credit cards to buy mountain of useless shit. Is just a trashy person all around.

It sucks what happened to her but let's not pretend she's a good person.
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Quit acting like she's fucking Hitler. She obviously had severe mental issues of her own.
 
What happened in Western State is actual proof that Chris is actually not mentally illed enough to be incompetent or institutionized. He is fully aware of what he did and is constantly selfishly looking out for his bitch ass. He probably tard raged when people don't baby him like in the therapeutic docket or region 10. He is just your run of the mill local jackass that needs to eat his pills on time that's all.

All these letter fags should just spill the beans and upload all their confidential letters online. What's the point of holding it for other than playing with Chris's fantasy. All of these letters are written proof that Chris admits that Barb is in zombie mode throughout the entire rape saga. That's crucial evidence that Chris acknowledged that Barb is not all there and he still carry on with his deed.
 
As much as Chris obfuscates and just plain misunderstands, it's pretty clear what is going on...

Heilberg sent him to the hospital with the hopes that they would recommend putting Chris in a group home, but Chris meddled in the affairs of another patient by (loudly I'm sure) performing an exorcism on him; and when hospital staff stopped him, he threw a fit and had to be strapped into a restraint chair. That pretty much proved that he would be a huge problem in a group home setting, so he was sent back to jail. It isn't enough to just be crazy. You have to be crazy AND COMPLIANT to get help.

He isn't being told much about what is going on with Barb. He has been told that she is catatonic and unable to take care of herself, but he assumes that she is still living at 14 BC unsupervised with input from family because that was the way it was the last time he was informed of her condition. But if Barb is in that condition, she is in some sort of nursing home, not by herself in 14 BC. We can assume Barb is in no condition to testify, and her decline has been slow enough that it won't be hard to prove she was mentally weak when Chris raped her. Not good for Chris's defense. In fact, this letter is pretty much proof of rape. No matter how unpleasant Barb was in the past, she is clearly the victim here.

Whenever Chris talks about Barb lately, he shit talks her to self justify his lack of concern for her, and complains that she is in the way, blocking him from taking her house away from her and living in it while she rots in a nursing home. So much for motherly love. Chris is incapable of empathy with anyone else. He is a black hearted psychopath in addition to being narcissistic and severely autistic.

Chris thinks that the weens are going to create a Kickstarter for him. But we're told that no one is going to do that. This means that the weens are just milking Chris for letters to post. They aren't his friends and they're lying to him about their intent.

Chris is just letting Heilberg do his work and Heilberg isn't communicating with him any more. This tells us that Chris's failure to cooperate at the mental hospital has changed Heilberg's strategy. There's going to be no soft landing for Chris. All his lawyer can do is provide mitigating evidence in hopes of getting a reduced sentence. He will probably recommend taking any plea offer provided to him by the prosecution because Chris would mess up any kind of negotiations and end up with a stiffer sentence.

Chris is on the fast track to getting this case resolved quickly. No one is going to slow things down to try to make a better life for him when he's released. They figure he's hopeless... and he most certainly is. After his sentence, he is going to be chucked out of prison with the normal minimum help to set up section 8 and food stamps. Chris will end up on the streets. No group home. And he will deserve it.
 
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DrunkServal dijo:
No no no no, come on. No one here is saying she killed millions, we're saying having mental issues is not an excuse for hurting others.
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Yeah, I've never understood why people need to separate into "Team Bob", "Team Barb", or "Team Chris". I'm on "Team All of Them are Total Garbage" and the rest is just semantics and time-wasting until content rolls in.

That being said, it puzzles me why people get so pissed off about things like the phantasm "reverse mortgage", yet never object to the nearly official canon that "Barb has no dementia/Alzheimers" when that is entirely based on ONE comment from Marvin, somebody who has never even MET Barb IRL! (correct me if I'm wrong on that one). Not blaming Marvin, he was just offering his opinion, not some kind of professional analysis. Also, people suffering with those conditions have good moments and bad moments. Sometimes they can be crystal clear and lucid... the next day they are wandering away from home and getting lost in neighborhoods they've lived in for 40 years.

Why I think Barb has Alzheimers or dementia: from personal experience, people with those conditions tend to lose a lot of weight as they legitimately forget to eat unless reminded to! That is why they have Ensure bottles all over their house. Ensure is not perfect, but it is better than not eating at all. One bottle can make up for several missed meals. But somebody has to remind them that they need to drink it! Does Chris seem up to that kind of regular task? Also, if it ISN'T memory-related, does anyone have an explanation why current Barb is so much skinnier than younger Barb? I don't recall her going through some "Push it to the Limit" Sports Montage arc where she changed her habits and lost weight? That would take work and she is lazy as shit. There's people here who know far more about the Chandlers than I do, and if somebody can explain how she lost so much weight with no visible change in lifestyle, I'd love to hear it! Until then, I'm assuming "Small Barb" is the result of forgetting to eat.
 
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Yeah, I've never understood why people need to separate into "Team Bob", "Team Barb", or "Team Chris". I'm on "Team All of Them are Total Garbage" and the rest is just semantics and time-wasting until content rolls in.

That being said, it puzzle me why people get so pissed off about things like the phantasm "reverse mortgage", yet never object to the nearly official canon that "Barb has no dementia/Alzheimers" when that is entirely based on ONE comment from Marvin, somebody who has never even MET Barb IRL! (correct me if I'm wrong on that one). Not blaming Marvin, he was just offering his opinion, not some kind of professional analysis. Also, people suffering with those conditions have good moments and bad moments. Sometimes they can be crystal clear and lucid... the next day they are wandering away from home and getting lost in neighborhoods they've lived in for 40 years.

Why I think Barb has Alzheimers or dementia: from personal experience, people with those conditions tend to lose a lot of weight as they legitimately forget to eat unless reminded to! That is why they have Ensure bottles all over their house. Ensure is not perfect, but it is better than not eating at all. One bottle can make up for several missed meals. But somebody has to remind them that they need to drink it! Does Chris seem up to that kind of regular task? Also, if it ISN'T memory-related, does anyone have an explanation why current Barb is so much skinnier than younger Barb. I don't recall her going through some "Push it to the Limit" Sports Montage arc where she changed her habits and lost weight? That would take work and she is lazy as shit. There's people here who know far more about the Chandlers than I do, and if somebody can explain how she lost so much weight with no visible change in lifestyle, I'd love to hear it! Until then, I'm assuming "Small Barb" is the result of forgetting to eat.
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I took care of a grandparent with this as long as I could before it was out of my capability, they need constant care, assurance, and mental engagement. It's basically a 24/7 job if you're taking care of someone with this and I doubt that Chris was capable of maintaining that. I could barely maintain myself during that period, it took all of my time.

The fact that she lost so much weight so fast kinda tells me that he wasn't even bothering most of the time. (And if she had Ensure, she sure wasn't drinking enough water.)
 
Von Wolf Demon dijo:
That being said, it puzzle me why people get so pissed off about things like the phantasm "reverse mortgage", yet never object to the nearly official canon that "Barb has no dementia/Alzheimers" when that is entirely based on ONE comment from Marvin
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Autistic people want to see life as some sort of TV show with clear cut heroes and villains. It doesn't matter what reality is, they see it as how they want it to be. No amount of facts will sway them from that. They see things in black and white, and shades of gray just frustrate them.
 
DrunkServal dijo:
I took care of a grandparent with this as long as I could before it was out of my capability, they need constant care, assurance, and mental engagement. It's basically a 24/7 job if you're taking care of someone with this and I doubt that Chris was capable of maintaining that. I could barely maintain myself during that period, it took all of my time.

The fact that she lost so much weight so fast kinda tells me that he wasn't even bothering most of the time. (And if she had Ensure, she sure wasn't drinking enough water.)
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Yeah, exactly! Also, something I forgot to add: having these conditions doesn't somehow turn you into a moral person incapable of grifting. Barb having her shit together for a few seconds on an e-begging video is not at all incompatible with her having Alzheimers or dementia. Those videos seem to be the sole basis for the "no mental issues" thesis, and I'm sorry, but that just isn't nearly a big enough sample size. She can be a manipulative little twat AND have a serious mental disorder.

Everyone's a winner!
 
Dumb Bitch Smoothie dijo:
Some people with autism can assimilate into normal culture and make it less glaringly obvious that they don't fit in with societal norms.
I'm convinced CWC has no desire to change or let go of his delusions. It seems like being removed from unlimited access to fandom material and people to feed his delusions has made him worse in some ways. I feel like he's gone deeper because he can't cope with being in jail and taking responsibility for his actions.
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Whenever Chris was banned from somewhere he always had his home as a refuge. Now that he's in jail he has nowhere to go or really anything to district him from his real world problems.
 
TestTubePuppy dijo:
As much as Chris obfuscates and just plain misunderstands, it's pretty clear what is going on...

Heilberg sent him to the hospital with the hopes that they would recommend putting Chris in a group home, but Chris meddled in the affairs of another patient by (loudly I'm sure) performing an exorcism on him; and when hospital staff stopped him, he threw a fit and had to be strapped into a restraint chair. That pretty much proved that he would be a huge problem in a group home setting, so he was sent back to jail. It isn't enough to just be crazy. You have to be crazy AND COMPLIANT to get help.

He isn't being told much about what is going on with Barb. He has been told that she is catatonic and unable to take care of herself, but he assumes that she is still living at 14 BC unsupervised with input from family because that was the way it was the last time he was informed of her condition. But if Barb is in that condition, she is in some sort of nursing home, not by herself in 14 BC. We can assume Barb is in no condition to testify, and her decline has been slow enough that it won't be hard to prove she was mentally weak when Chris raped her. Not good for Chris's defense. In fact, this letter is pretty much proof of rape. No matter how unpleasant Barb was in the past, she is clearly the victim here.

Whenever Chris talks about Barb lately, he shit talks her to self justify his lack of concern for her, and complains that she is in the way, blocking him from taking her house away from her and living in it while she rots in a nursing home. So much for motherly love. Chris is incapable of empathy with anyone else. He is a black hearted psychopath in addition to being narcissistic and severely autistic.

Chris thinks that the weens are going to create a Kickstarter for him. But we're told that no one is going to do that. This means that the weens are just milking Chris for letters to post. They aren't his friends and they're lying to him about their intent.

Chris is just letting Heilberg do his work and Heilberg isn't communicating with him any more. This tells us that Chris's failure to cooperate at the mental hospital has changed Heilberg's strategy. There's going to be no soft landing for Chris. All his lawyer can do is provide mitigating evidence in hopes of getting a reduced sentence. He will probably recommend taking any plea offer provided to him by the prosecution because Chris would mess up any kind of negotiations and end up with a stiffer sentence.

Chris is on the fast track to getting this case resolved quickly. No one is going to slow things down to try to make a better life for him when he's released. They figure he's hopeless... and he most certainly is. After his sentence, he is going to be chucked out of prison with the normal minimum help to set up section 8 and food stamps. Chris will end up on the streets. No group home. And he will deserve it.
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How do you know about the stuff in the hospital or are you speculating?
 
FinnSven dijo:
How do you know about the stuff in the hospital or are you speculating?
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It's in the letter... Chris tries to exorcise fellow nut job. Hospital straps him in a chair. Sends him back to jail with no recommendation of a group home that the lawyer was hoping for.

Each letter gets worse and worse. As Chris inadvertently reveals what happened, the horror intensifies.
 
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TestTubePuppy dijo:
It's in the letter... Chris tries to exorcise fellow nut job. Hospital straps him in a chair. Sends him back to jail with no recommendation of a group home that the lawyer was hoping for.
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Ah, thanks for clarification!

I just read it now, I didn’t before as I thought this was an older letter thread.

Teach me not to read the titles properly!
 
TestTubePuppy dijo:
It's in the letter... Chris tries to exorcise fellow nut job. Hospital straps him in a chair. Sends him back to jail with no recommendation of a group home that the lawyer was hoping for.
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It's bumfuck Virginia.
 
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