Law Abortion would be punishable as murder under new Louisiana proposal - IVF and birth control might be included

Less than 48 hours after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling was leaked, indicating the landmark abortion ruling in Roe v. Wade would be overturned, Louisiana lawmakers acted aggressively to bolster state law that bans the procedure.

The House Committee for the Administration of Criminal Justice advanced a bill Wednesday that would treat anyone who undergoes or administers an abortion as a murderer. The potential penalty for someone convicted could be life in prison.

Rep. Danny McCormick, R-Oil City, authored House Bill 813 that would also allow the state attorney general prosecute abortion cases that a local district attorney refuses. He told the committee Louisiana and other states had already violated federal law by approving medical marijuana, and any constitutional concerns about his proposal should be considered similarly.

“If more than 15 states can defy the federal government over marijuana, we can do it to save the lives of innocent babies,” McCormick said, adding Louisiana should not wait until the Supreme Court’s ruling is made official.

Supreme Court officials have confirmed the content of the draft opinion first obtained by Politico, adding that it could be altered before it’s certified later year. In reversing the Roe decision, states would then be empowered to enforce their own laws concerning abortion. Louisiana is among the states with a trigger law that bans abortions as soon as the Supreme Court ruling is final. Other states are considering similar proposals.

Backers of McCormick’s bill who testified before the committee referred to various Bible verses to back their stance. They included Susan Raborn, a Baton Rouge lawyer who acknowledged she had separately aborted twins and a single fetus she had carried. She said abortion rights supporters have confronted her about her past as a member of LSU’s Golden Girls and the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, saying those opportunities and her subsequent legal career would not have been possible without having had abortion as an option.

Raborn, 61, spoke of her continuing guilt over ending her pregnancies, and she described abortion rights supporters as racists.

“They really want to kill minority babies. They love to kill minority babies …” she said. “They’re really the KKK of today.”

Statistics the Kaiser Family Foundation compiled show Black people accounted for 38% of abortions in 2019, compared with 33% for whites and 21% for Hispanics. Louisiana was among 21 states that did not report abortion data by race or ethnicity, according to KFF. A closer look at Southern states shows Black people obtained a far larger share of abortions in Alabama and Georgia, while white people vastly outnumbered other races in Kentucky.

Research has connected racial disparities in abortion to other fundamental inequalities: lack of access to health care and contraception, subpar public education and low income.

Opponents of House Bill 813 included lawyers who said language in the proposal would make procedures such as in-vitro fertilization and the freezing of embryos punishable crimes. Birth control pills, intrauterine devices and emergency contraception would also be outlawed, based on their interpretation of the bill.

Melissa Flournoy, a former state lawmaker and board chair of Louisiana Progress, said McCormick’s measure could have unintended consequences, including the “criminalization of miscarriages.”

Gov. John Bel Edwards, a Democrat with staunch anti-abortion views, would not offer personal comment Wednesday when asked about the leaked Supreme Court ruling. He did confirm that such a law would prompt Louisiana’s 2006 trigger law into effect.

Committee member Tony Bacala, R-Prairieville, expressed concerns about whether McCormick’s bill would be constitutional but voted in favor of it anyway. He was joined by Reps. Bryan Fontenot, R-Thibodaux; Ray Garafalo, R-Chalmette; Jonathan Goudeau, R-Lafayette; Nick Muscarello, R-Hammond; Alan Seabaugh, R-Shreveport; and McCormick.

The no votes on the committee came from chairman Joe Marino, an independent from Gretna, and Rep. Vanessa LaFleur, D-Baton Rouge.

Absent for the vote were Reps. Marcus Bryant, D-New Iberia; Valarie Hodges, R-Denham Springs; Denise Marcelle, D-Baton Rouge; Richard Nelson, R-Mandeville; and Debbie Villio, R-Kenner.

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yeah but what if they actually are in pain? how do we really know? maybe they're actually conscious and they're just trapped in their body and if you turn off those machines you'll murder them.
I agree with the conclusion, I just don't think "inhumane" is quite the word. I absolutely support assisted suicide and euthanasia (ideally way faster than just letting them fucking dehydrate to death, by the way).
 
I agree with the conclusion, I just don't think "inhumane" is quite the word. I absolutely support assisted suicide and euthanasia (ideally way faster than just letting them fucking dehydrate to death, by the way).
why are you saying it isn't inhumane? are you implying that a person in vegetative comatose state loses personhood and therefore murdering them is okay?
 
Birth control pills, intrauterine devices and emergency contraception would also be outlawed, based on their interpretation of the bill.
These are contraceptives, not abortifacients. The primary and intended mechanism of action is to prevent Ms. Egg from meeting Mr. Sperm, and they're very effective at that. If the stars align and conception occurs anyway, but fails to implant, no one will ever know. The idea of the Religious Police knocking down doors to arrest women for losing a zygote remains a Netflix pitch, not a real argument.
 
No I think murdering them is good. It's only inhumane in regards to pain, and they don't seem to be able to feel pain.
i was trying to use the same argument that pro-filers use regarding fetuses. basically, we can't really know if a vegetable (fetus) feels pain, so it would be murder to remove the vegetable (fetus) from the machines (the womb) that is keeping them alive.

edit: basically i was being facetious
 
It would piss me off if you necked yourself, so you should do it
I'm going to misgender every single person I see, constantly talk about the great restart, and also never support Ukraine. I'm like that old nigga with the lantern who lived in a barrel and was the greatest dude in society. I think his name was Cynicismsies? Either way, I'm not going to neck myself because obviously, it would make you pop a chub - So, instead, I'm going to post-racial slurs on Twitter.
 
I'm going to misgender every single person I see, constantly talk about the great restart, and also never support Ukraine. I'm like that old nigga with the lantern who lived in a barrel and was the greatest dude in society. I think his name was Cynicismsies? Either way, I'm not going to neck myself because obviously, it would make you pop a chub - So, instead, I'm going to post-racial slurs on Twitter.
I am going to volunteer to drive women to abortion appointments. I will also continue to talk bad about obese, elderly conmen that you fetishize.
 
That's cool, it's prob my dirty ass niglet son anyways, so you saving me payments bro lol.
Well since you love fetuses so much I thought it would upset you, but I am glad that me helping vulnerable women in their time of need helps you as well. Plus if it's your child being aborted, it not being born will prevent the world's average IQ from dropping a few points. That's win-win-win
 
Well since you love fetuses so much I thought it would upset you, but I am glad that me helping vulnerable women in their time of need helps you as well. Plus if it's your child being aborted, it not being born will prevent the world's average IQ from dropping a few points. That's win-win-win
I hate how hostile you are, but I love both our common goal to eliminate the blacks. If only we could find some kind of beautiful world together where shitposter and shitposter find common ground in these turbulent and interesting times.
 
"I don't wanna pay more taxes, so instead of trying to scrutinize how the government wastes my money, we need to kill kids!"
bruh they waste it on welfare. i will judge the government for all of their other stupid uses of my taxes too but welfare is still a part of it. and i’m not saying to go to the houses of welfare recipients and “kill their kids”, i’m saying to let them have abortions.

read the rest of my post too, the welfare part is only one aspect of it. kids of unfit parents grow up to repeat the cycle and be problems of society
 
bruh they waste it on welfare. i will judge the government for all of their other stupid uses of my taxes too but welfare is still a part of it. and i’m not saying to go to the houses of welfare recipients and “kill their kids”, i’m saying to let them have abortions.

read the rest of my post too, the welfare part is only one aspect of it. kids of unfit parents grow up to repeat the cycle and be problems of society
Cycles don't have to be repeated. That is a choice made by the child themselves. Many children manage to do better despite their parents or the situation they were born into. It is another reason why victim culture needs to die in a fire.
 
Cycles don't have to be repeated. That is a choice made by the child themselves. Many children manage to do better despite their parents or the situation they were born into. It is another reason why victim culture needs to die in a fire.
So your argument is "after being paid for by tax dollars for 18 years, the child might theoretically be able to pay for their own children in the next generation so we don't have to", amazing.
 
I don't support abortions but the southern stated are really starting to look like an Alternate California with their bullshit
That's the point of it all. States want their power back and not being controlled by the federal government who are overreaching. Personally, I don't care one way or the other, people should be free to live in a state where they have similar values and cultural highlights. I get my nickers bunched when these other states are attempting to force all the other states to concede to a minority of people.
 
Lol cuck levels never thought possible to drive someone else's whore to the abortion clinic :lit:
Retard's genetic strategy is well, it is good she aborts this kid, but she sure would not mine! Alternatively, he may be looking for such a woman just to raw dog and know she would yeet so both of them could buy some more Funko Pops.
 
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